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2011-2012 college football thread v. SEC circle jerk

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this is pretty awesome. the good news about aggie coming to the sec is that we're going to get to make fun of them. a lot.

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but there are SEC schools in TX and MO.

this isn't yankee dumb. this is texas aggie dumb. which is a whole other level of dumb.
 
Pander Bear said:
not that I condone shoeboxes of money, and cars from dealerships, or quarter million dollar internships— but its about what you can prove, not what you do. Simple as that. :\
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I dont so much mind the money and the cars, I think high level athletes should be paid. They create a product that is worth a lot of money. I mind the inherently unequal environment that this type of system creates. Not trying to hate on you for rooting for you team, but it kind of ruins college football when the SEC recruits most of the best players every year.
 
Care said:
I dont so much mind the money and the cars, I think high level athletes should be paid. They create a product that is worth a lot of money. I mind the inherently unequal environment that this type of system creates. Not trying to hate on you for rooting for you team, but it kind of ruins college football when the SEC recruits most of the best players every year.
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what kind of system?

i don't really understand this post.
 
College football in general.

Where certain schools get away with under the table, against the rules activity. Get all the best players every year, and always win. While other schools get Heismans/scholarships/national titles taken away when they do the same thing.

Im sure many in the south are happy to believe the SEC is ordained by heaven to be the best football conference though.
 
but you just said it yourself that you're ok with players getting cars and stuff. so some kind of playing outside of the rules is ok?

and the NFL is just as guilty as certain teams getting away with certain things. it's called being good at cheating. and if you haven't seen the amount of shit SEC schools get in trouble for over the years, then you're just not paying attention.

it's a business. some teams are good, some teams suck dick. it's not because of any rules set in place, it's because some coaches and players are better than others.

the SEC has currently been on top for a number of years, but it hasn't always been like that. but you're like 21, so you wouldn't remember those days. i'm sure the big 10, big 12, etc will have their time in the spot light again.

all that said, the BCS is garbage. but that's not what we're talking about.
 
I think they players should be compensated for creating a product that is worth millions upon millions of dollars. I am not okay with certain schools ignoring the rules and gaining an advantage over others. "Cheating" in the NFL is not as impactful, there is no way to cheat your way to having a far superior roster to the competition in the NFL.

It bothers me that college football is supposed to be an amateur competition, when it clearly isnt and that is the way that they justify not paying the athletes. The logical way to get ahead in this type of system is to break the rules (which are nigh unenforceable). Some schools get away with it, and some get caught. Some that get caught get national titles and scholarships taken away and some get the "well thats just cam being cam" treatment.

BTW im 25.
 
axl blaze said:
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just dropping by to pwn this thread. sux tOSU can't win the National Championship this year... #UrbanRenewal

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lol, Urban with the Gentleman's Agreement displays what a deceitful little douchebag he is. Probably the sleaziest guy in the NCAA, and that says a lot.


And I agree with Care. Although Pander has a point that the free-reign cheating pendulum may once again fall on the Big 10 or 12, or even the ACC if Miami, FSU, Clemson, and VT (possibly GT at well) start seriously winning again, the infractions committee is letting the SEC off easy, while murdering other schools for infractions related to failure to monitor players' every movement. Although Clemson does appear to be joining the paying ranks, and should be looked at. And I do agree that players should be compensated, the issue is the unfair competitive advantage that a large state school in the winningest (and therefore richest) conference attains versus a smaller private school (Miami, USC) in conferences that are mostly dependent on them to make money. All things being equal I still wouldn't be a fan of under the table pay-for-LOI (I have fewer issues with pay-for-play and bounties and all that shit, that happens at every school in the country and cannot be policed, and punishment a matter of how hard the infractions committee decides to look at a school for dirt), but they need to allow kids to take advantage of their celebrity.

Although we've had this conversation a trillion and a half times since I've joined and I really, really don't want to have it again. It does get boring.
 
Urban may be a sleeze, but boy does that spread offense go zoom zoom in your boom boom!!
 
axl blaze said:
Urban may be a sleeze, but boy does that spread offense go zoom zoom in your boom boom!!
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No doubt. As much as I may doubt his character as a human being, he knows his football.


I still question whether or not he has the fire to keep going (his offense requires a lot of creativity, and running into a Nick Saban with a tried and true system will fuck him up permanently) and whether or not he can get a championship offense of his in the Big 10. His system requires a lot of speed and big, fast QB's. Pryor would have killed it in his system.
 
it sux that Urban Meyer can't win the National Championship this year. fucking NCAA

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I still question whether or not he has the fire to keep going (his offense requires a lot of creativity, and running into a Nick Saban with a tried and true system will fuck him up permanently) and whether or not he can get a championship offense of his in the Big 10. His system requires a lot of speed and big, fast QB's. Pryor would have killed it in his system.
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I think you answered your own question, there. Ohio State got the recruits even before Urban Meyer. now, they are getting just as many high-caliber recruiting classes... now whether or not these recruiting rankings are total bullshit is one thing... but I will save that for another contention

Terrelle Pryor had an amazing career at tOSU. he bested both Oregon and Arkansas in BCS Bowl Games. he was bigger and faster than all, physically. but mentally, he was a retard and he was good for losing one game a season, to a team such as Purdue nonetheless. despite TP's mental issues, I think Urban Meyer would have lifted one of those Pryor seasons into a National Championship...
 
more than likely, yes... :\

but if your NCAA team wins the National Championship Game, they still won it. it might not be so in the books, but the joy + personal pleasure you derive from that game dwarfs the suits "taking the victory away"

I'm sure USCw fans agree with me 100 percent on this one... call it the "Reggie Bush Affect"
 
axl blaze said:
more than likely, yes... :\

but if your NCAA team wins the National Championship Game, they still won it. it might not be so in the books, but the joy + personal pleasure you derive from that game dwarfs the suits "taking the victory away"

I'm sure USCw fans agree with me 100 percent on this one... call it the "Reggie Bush Affect"
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I agree with this 100%.


Vacating wins is fucking retarded.
 
yeah. I mean, I get it, NCAA. you have the vengeance and unforgiving demeanor as a pre-New Testament God... but I still think that tOSU bested Arkansas in that Bowl Game a couple years ago...

so the Ohio State Spring Game was just underway this past weekend. I've been to the last three or four tOSU Spring Games, but had to miss this one due to work. usually Spring Games bore me, but if the weather is nice, it can be a lot of fun. plus, there was a new incentive this year to attend this Spring Game due to it being Urban Meyere's first appearance on tOSU's sideline. MAN I can't wait until Meyer's first game as a Buckeye. the Horseshoe (as well as most stadiums to teams that are perpetually good with a large fanbase) gets CRAZY. and we all know that Urbz has that special place in his heart for the scarlet + grey. my homie Urbz is gonna get some Buckeye-nut-sized GOOSEBUMPS on his forearms when he runs out of that tunnel R. L. Stine status!!

(R. L. Stine also graduated from tOSU ;))

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