All Things Fitness/Gym/Aesthetics 2012: So Homoerotic!

[parttime crackhead]

The roid-rage thread.

Calm down boys, stop getting all raging about who has the best titties.

 

[Urbain]

The roid-rage thread.

Calm down boys, stop getting all raging about who has the best titties.

Ken. This thread has potential, and it's one im actually interested in contributing to, (which makes a fucking change!).

Sensibles polite debate, please?

 

[Urbain]

agreed, i used to go gym once/twice a week, but cant be doing with the cost of it when its not that needed. better use for funds elsewhere. plus ive got weights and other stuff in my garage

I couldnt train on my own. I've found that I need to be around people, though I dont have a gym partner, and dont enjoy someone standing next to me giving it some encouragement. Me and my mate go, and stay relatively seperate once we're in.

On a side note, if I get a runner behind the Yoga class, the bums on display are a terrific motivator.

 

[Marmalade]

the boy here living at chez marmz trains on his own. 25 min cycle ride each way to n from the gym for cardio. gym time is solely used for weights 4 times a week. he wouldnt even need to go to the gym if I hadnt barred his own weights from my livingroom due to them fucking up my floor.

he's been training on his own for the last 10 yrs. he's always got his head down burried deep in a little black book scribbling down his latest routine

to save him making a continual mess in my kitchen I make him up a months worth of personalised protein shakes (mix of whey/oats/hemp/various other shitz) into individual little servings then into small tubs i made him buy so he can just shake n go.

he's always looking at semi naked men on his monitor.

 

[dee_dee]

Its good to see this thread taking off.

I decided to start it this morning after reading Sams sugggestion.

I can understand that it may be considered a bit alien to some members, but my opinion is this...

There are many people who have probally gone to hell and back through drug addiction or other problems in there life, who have taken up some kind of sport or showed some interest in getting fit and healthy/improving there diet and life who have completley managed to turn there lives around, plus its also quite a common interest and hobby for alot of people anyway these days.

i cant promise to contribute alot, I dont no alot but we can all help each other or ask questions or encourage motivation if needed, whatever really, hopefully this thread will be used and wont be a waste of BL's space.

It doesnt neccesarily have to be about only if your a member of a gym or do weight training either, cycling, running, swimming, classes, whatever,

Dancing all night is great exercise if its not chemically assisted, ha ha.

Cant really see that happening here...

>>>>

 

[swedger77]

I ve always been a skinny cunt. Id rather be like that, than a fatty though. But I ve been gong to the gym for 14 months now and am in better shape than ever before. My diet is pretty decent, but I suffer the same weekend issue as rockstar. Getting totally smashed and taking until Tuesday before i feel semi-human again.

At 35 I know my body is in decline! It might sound daft, but my natural test level are no doubt sloping off......this is a very key factor to slow gains. At the end of the days Steroids increase testosterone and increase the ability for the body to turn protein into muscle (amongst lots of other shit).

i work out with a guy down the guy who is 24 and was the same weight as me 12 months ago. He started getting his diet sorted and also did a cycle of oral methanabol. He is now 2 stone heavier than me.

Im not a needles man, but have considered to do an oral cycle of roids. But the water look and fat red, spotty face this can lead to is not something i fancy. I also dont fancy all the extra load on the liver that most oral roidsgive. I do fancy gaining lean muslce.

I am still considering running a cycle of the (sold as a) pro-hormone Epistane. This from what i have researched is fairly easy going on the liver, provided very lean (not water retention) gains and in general has few bad side effects.

A good documentry on steroid to watch (free online) is bigger, faster stronger......there is a good line in there.....Steroids will make you bigger, but if your an asshole, you will become a bigger asshole.

For the record, Im a mere 5,11" and weigh 71kg and can bench 70kg x 5 and a max of 85Kg. So still a skinny cunt. This is slowly improving week on week. These slow gains and the fact i love a bevvy have been enough for me to "Just Say No" to the roids

 

[hx_]

I only started the gym 2 months ago, from 60kg to 68kg (6'2") and I now actually have arms rather than skinny sticks, feels nice.

Just gonna keep goin at this rate, doubt I have any need for chemicals or supplements.

 

[swedger77]

I only started the gym 2 months ago, from 60kg to 68kg (6'2") and I now actually have arms rather than skinny sticks, feels nice.

Just gonna keep goin at this rate, doubt I have any need for chemicals or supplements.

Don't try'n out skinny me!

6'2" and 60Kg.......watch out for the cracks in the pavement dude

 

[Furious George]

The thing with training is, what you did to get yourself to a certain point is what you will need to do to stay there.

A lot of naive steroid users think, I'll do a cycle just to get me to to this goal, then that's it, I'll go natural and keep it. Won't happen.

Once off cycle, unless PCT is perfect, they'll still be suppressed (not producing any of their own testosterone) have an estrogen rebound from the AI and SERMS they were using, loose all that water weight, all the muscle and strength gains will disappear because they never really learned what it takes (diet & hard training) to maintain that mass. So they're left looking worse than before they started. Then it's either a body obsessed bloke with a shit body, or a body obsessed bloke on the Juice fulltime, bridging becomes TRT, fun times if you like needles.

My advice is to log exactly what you eat and how you train (and adjust it it accordingly), set realistic goals and be consistent. Or get some Anavar down your neck for 8 weeks at 50-100mg.

Natty is best cos Roiders grow breasts! Or something

 

[hx_]

6'2" and 60Kg.......watch out for the cracks in the pavement dude

I know, something needed to be done.

Cardio is impossible for me, 2 mins and I feel like dieing so I just skip that part. If I don't skip it I rarely make it to the gym, is it really that important?

 

[brimz]

I got a Shit Hot Marin Mountain Bike .
It was my Dads i inherited it.

1994 Pine Mountain
with DEore XT group set and Mavic 231cd rims it weighs 25 pounds

I never have left locked up i always take it in the shop n if they say no then fuk em its' sentimentel as well as really nice .

Oh yeah i ride it to help my dodgy leg the one with Post-thrombotic syndrome .

aND cos i luv cycling with me leg though it's not the same as it was all the more reason to stop abusing myself

 

[Marmalade]

the boy here wouldve bought one of those 2nd hand on ebay if he could brimz, he's wanted one for ages, but theyre always for sale as a 'pick up' only ... and usually at the other end of the country unfortunately

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I just asked him how much he weighs and he said he's about 14 1/4 stone atm. his maximum was 16 when he was training properly last year.
he's only 5ft 7-8 tho, and not even remotely chubby, just a little bit on the belly maybe.

you guys are tall & skinny buggers. I think he'd gladly trade some height inches for the muscle weight tho ;p

 

[parttime crackhead]

He's a fat cunt, he's just hiding it well. I'm 5ft 9 & weigh about 13 stone of pure belly.

 

[THCified]

Once off cycle, unless PCT is perfect, they'll still be suppressed (not producing any of their own testosterone) have an estrogen rebound from the AI and SERMS they were using, loose all that water weight, all the muscle and strength gains will disappear because they never really learned what it takes (diet & hard training) to maintain that mass.

Nicely said!

 

[Urbain]

On the subject of size, Im both hugely greatful, and a lucky enough bugger, to have an incredibly fast metabilism. I've been a steady 9 stone since I can remember. Im 27 now. Lately i've upped to 9 and a half due to training.

The only slight downside to my metabilism is that I have to eat every hour, or I get intense hunger pains, and it's proper uncomfortable. It's a task to stick to a decent diet, to try and keep things 'flowing regulary now im lifting.. Im hoping the supplements im waiting for will help with this, though.

 

[33Hz]

I got the total gym out in the garden today to add to the dumbbells. Chuck Norris approved!

 

[Ascii]

Yes I do realise this, it's the only reason I continue doing cardio. However you are speaking a fair bit of sense really as I see my friend who does no cardio whatsoever and basically everything else the same as me is getting more out of it than I seem to be. I've decided as of today no more cardio and I'm just going to bulk til july/august, not ideal as I'd like to maintain my rippedness for the festivals in the summer but fuck it I doubt I loose out on many birds either way. I also have a bit of a cunt with bulking foods as my whole family now bar me and my uncle are vegitarian, the mother is not that bothered about me cooking chicken etc but hates the smell of bacon, beef and whatever else, hardly ideal. I spend most of my money cramming that in when I'm out, well that and booze. This weekend I'm not going to drink until sat. I'll take on board what you said about 4 days a week rather than 5 aswell as it's been said before and elsewhere online.

Yeah, I'm not saying don't do cardio because it's really healthy to do it but if you burn off 800 cals doing a load of cardio then that's 800 more calories you've got to force down your neck to hit the right surplus. Your family and mine sound so similar, I've also got a family full of vegetarians that dislike the smell of cooking animal flesh. I'm not around them most of the year but when I'm in my family home I get around this by cooking meat with the extractor fan on, kitchen door closed and the window open. Also, I'll rinse the dairy products at home; cheese, full fat yogurt (greek esp) is packed out with calories and protein. Milk is absolutely fantastic for bulking too, if you can drink 4 pints of full fat whole milk a day, you're getting 1500cals and about 75g of protein and that's without even eating anything! No preparation needed either and you can drink it when you're feeling full from food.

As for going to the gym four times a week, I reckon go around three times. Going on Monday, Wednesday and Friday means that every time you go to the gym you're fresh, you've had a solid day of rest and you can train to full intensity. It also means you've got the full weekend off and you're not going to feel guilty for missing a workout of Sat/Sun due to a hangover or comedown. I've been going 3 times a week for the 8 months I've been lifting and I can't say I'd like to go more often. At the end of the day, you grow on your days off not whilst you're in the gym. Those workouts I linked on the first page are both only three days a week, I'd really recommend the modified Starting Strength workout with dips, chins and curls added.

Oh and mate, check out this video series for benching better. It's a powerlifting bench press where you use more of your body and arch your back, it's really helped me bench more weight. With squats, OHP and deadlift I always concentrated on my form a lot but for quite a while I never maintained good bench technique. Benching like this uses your whole frame in a fluid motion to push the barbell instead of just lying on a bench and trying to push it upwards.

I do indeed know what I'm talking about I've put hours of reading into it. I know about tbol but 10ml of tri test 400mg/ml one injection a week is always going to do more than any oral. I would have to be t total sober though, I already have a short fuse at the best of times and particularly when drunk. I'm going to do it but I think I'll bulk then cut first, and see if I can make massive gains if I can gain a stone easily without anything bar diet and hard training at the gym 4 days a week I'll review my thoughts. The likes of tren fuck that, my best mate is 16 stone of absolute machine, taken most roids and is only about 5,8 ish. When he took tren he seemed to want to kill anyone who said the wrong thing, it also made him far too cheeky and full of himself. I understand test is going to make me even more of a boy in that respect but tren seems to send people utterly insane, you dont really need cutter roids I dont see the point in them cutting naturally is not hard anyway. Just make sure I have arimidex and I'll lower the test dosage to half a ml a week for the last 4 weeks making it 12 weeks rather than 10 ease off it add arimidex last 5 weeks of it.

Yeah, if you're lean-ish at the moment I'd bulk too. It's the usual to be cutting down for summer but you'd be amazed how long you can eat at a calorific surplus whilst training hard before the fat even begins to show.

Haha, the tren story cracks me up. I've heard many a similar tale, it seems to cause massive mood swings, heard of people snapping at the smallest things but also blubbering uncontrollably over a hamster dying on Animal Hospital! Reminds me a bit of when people over do MDMA massively and have no control over their emotions. Tren and cheque drops have to be the only AAS that live up to the roid rage reputation, I really wouldn't worry too much about becoming short tempered on a test cycle, I've seen mates become more cool and collected on cycle. I reckon cutting cycles are equally important to bulking, if you do a bulking cycle you're going to lose a lot of muscle mass cutting down after. Plus if you start doing certain chems you'll probably want to start using cutting drugs lke clen, T3, DNP and using AAS can really hold onto muscle whilst on them... in for a penny, in for a pound. I would also do a test cycle if I decided to get on AAS but orals do still deliver some solid results. Oh and also, if you do decide to get into roids; look into hCG to stop the little guys atrophying so much!

At 35 I know my body is in decline! It might sound daft, but my natural test level are no doubt sloping off......this is a very key factor to slow gains. At the end of the days Steroids increase testosterone and increase the ability for the body to turn protein into muscle (amongst lots of other shit).

i work out with a guy down the guy who is 24 and was the same weight as me 12 months ago. He started getting his diet sorted and also did a cycle of oral methanabol. He is now 2 stone heavier than me.

Im not a needles man, but have considered to do an oral cycle of roids. But the water look and fat red, spotty face this can lead to is not something i fancy. I also dont fancy all the extra load on the liver that most oral roidsgive. I do fancy gaining lean muslce.

I am still considering running a cycle of the (sold as a) pro-hormone Epistane. This from what i have researched is fairly easy going on the liver, provided very lean (not water retention) gains and in general has few bad side effects.

I reckon an oral cycle might not be a bad idea. I know little about pro-hormones, just that they're the research chemicals of the roid world with little knowlege held on their long term effects. You should still do a PCT with pro-hormones but at 35 you run much less risk of permanently damaging your endocrine system than someone under 21. The only thing with oral steroids is that if you do drink a fair bit then it could be dodgy, a lot are really hard on the liver (like methanabol) but I often read that the hepatoxicity concerns of stuff like dbol is over exaggerated. If you've done research into Epistane not being that hepatoxic then I guess it's suitable but I'd still cut back on drinking on cycle.

Anavar is something to consider it's not very toxic at all but it's expensive and a lot of UGL (underground labs) fake anavar with winstrol and other oral steroids.

The thing with training is, what you did to get yourself to a certain point is what you will need to do to stay there.

A lot of naive steroid users think, I'll do a cycle just to get me to to this goal, then that's it, I'll go natural and keep it. Won't happen.

Once off cycle, unless PCT is perfect, they'll still be suppressed (not producing any of their own testosterone) have an estrogen rebound from the AI and SERMS they were using, loose all that water weight, all the muscle and strength gains will disappear because they never really learned what it takes (diet & hard training) to maintain that mass. So they're left looking worse than before they started. Then it's either a body obsessed bloke with a shit body, or a body obsessed bloke on the Juice fulltime, bridging becomes TRT, fun times if you like needles.

My advice is to log exactly what you eat and how you train (and adjust it it accordingly), set realistic goals and be consistent. Or get some Anavar down your neck for 8 weeks at 50-100mg.

Natty is best cos Roiders grow breasts! Or something

This is very true. Most people never really accept their current physique as the final product, combine this with body dysmorphia and you've got a fluctuating body image without ever being content! I wouldn't say it always ends in blasting & cruising and then eventually TRT, though it's definitely a legitimate concern and the idea of 'just one cycle' isn't usually a realistic one. I think anyone that's considering getting on juice should lift for at least a year or so with good diet and training first because they'll have good experience of putting on muscle without relying on AAS.

Lifting has diminishing returns though, after a few years in the gym if you're seeing little results then I think AAS is something to consider.

He's a fat cunt, he's just hiding it well. I'm 5ft 9 & weigh about 13 stone of pure belly.

Haha!

 

[parttime crackhead]

Aye, I've got a fucking massive belly muscle.

 

[dee_dee]

Detox time for PTCH.

No chems, no booze, strict regime!

 

[effie]

If you're not careful I'll send this thread to Healthy Living or Steroid Discussion..

I've been vaguely contemplating the gym for a while. Which means I may actually go at some point towards the end of the year. I really struggle to motivate myself though, I know it will make me feel better but I just.. don't do it. Planning on walking to and from work (almost an hour) most days but although walking is good for you it's not really enough, is it? Unless I break a sweat and I don't want to arrive at work all sweaty