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Opioids Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) Withdrawals. Help!

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Benzopiates

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For a while now I've been using dilaudid recreationally, 1mg sometimes 2 at most, with days in between doses. I had only a small amount and wished to preserve it as long as possible, I never suffered any kind of withdrawals strong enough for me to notice a difference.

3 weeks ago I went to the hospital to see a psychiatrist and during my 34 hours wait time some very weird and very real stomach ache got me to reevaluate the reason I was at the hospital to treat this problem at first... They though it was a kidney stone but nothing showed up on the scan, they still gave me 30x 1mg Dilaudid for the pain... After this was all said and done I had seen the psychiatrist and got my medication changed for the depression and ADD I had.

From this day on, my dilaudid consuption started to be daily... sometimes twice a day, and I was looking on the net to find sources for more. Unfortunately I found a very nice girl who had never sold drugs before looking to get rid of her 25x 2mg Dilaudid, after I had met with her, I wanted to try a feel of 4mg IV because that was the dose everyone seemed to enjoy the most and get the most out of. I've done 4mg a day for almost a full week and on the last day I had only one sterile needle and 3x 2mg left I did all of them.

Yesterday I went to a place to help me with my depression and i mentionned my drug use, they refered me to a place that handle thoses with opiate withdrawals but there's a couple people on the wait list and I have to wait.

So in the meantimes I want to know what exactly are the dilaudid withrawals I should be expecting... Did I take enough to feel bad from them? What can I take to make the withdrawals less intense... The girl on the phone talked about Methadone but in here I see all people talking about suboxone.

Also, my doc doesn't know i'm using, I don't know if it's good thing to reveal this bad habbit to someone who's been treating me for depression for over a year, maybe I shoudln't tell her and get another doctor to prescribe be what I need?
 
I definitely would not hop on methadone for a dilaudid habit of such a short time.
Suboxone....maybe.... I would honestly just ride through those WD. You don't want to be labeled as an addict in your medical record if you can help it.
 
tricomb said:
I definitely would not hop on methadone for a dilaudid habit of such a short time.
Suboxone....maybe.... I would honestly just ride through those WD. You don't want to be labeled as an addict in your medical record if you can help it.
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I completely agree..I wouldn't think the w/d will be too bad..you can make it through..
I, personally, wouldn't tell the dr..
They're generally a little more judgmental than they should be..but that's up to you.
Methadone or sub would probably just give you something else to w/d from in a couple months...
Everybody's different..but you haven't been using that long..
maybe some stomach cramps..chills..
get some immodium..some ibuprofen..
might feel like a mild stomach flu.
People love kratom for w/d too..

Good luck!
<3token
 
What I'm feeling right now is chills, it's so cold... my depression seems to have worsen a bit, I was already taking 150MG Effexor for it and they said opiate withdrawals would cause depression so it's like a double depression or so... I have no happy will to do anything at all... I feel like sleeping all day...

I got some lorazepam, I heard they help a bit... Just took 1mg Ativan now... would that be enough?
Even tho I haven't done it for a year... Jumping from 4mg IV for a whole week no nothing seemed a bit harsh... dunno
 
Honestly, unless you absolutely have to, which it does not seem like you do, don't tell you're doc. In almost all cases all that does is get you branded as an addict. And most doctors aren't willing to help an addict detox - you need to find a truly good, compassionate one that actually believes in doing his job for him or her to realistically be willing to provide you with the neurontin, clonidine and sleeping pills that can make w/d a walk in the park.

Do you like DXM op? If so a 2nd plautue dose of that will basically kill any w/d you have.

Loperamide/immodium will also help you BIG time w/ding, as will getting enough sleep, eating and hydrating. Seriously though loperamide sounds like a necessity for you.

And I wouldn't suggest you trying to get on suboxone or methadone. this is totally inappropriate for someone in your situation. Yea, getting enough suboxone (16-24mg) from someone to do a quick suboxone taper in order to detox yourself wouldn't be such a bad idea, but please don't go getting yourself hooked on any maintenance drugs. that'll just make your situation so much worse.

Lorazepam/ativan will help a little, but taking a like 20-30mg of loperamide + lorazepam would be way better than just the benzo by itself. And imo, unless you have zero experience with them, I'd suggest taking a min of 2mg lorazepam as opposed to just one mg. 1mg won't hurt, but it'll help just a little.

Again LOPERAMIDE!!!

btw, you should search BL for tips on ways to beat w/d...
 
ativan might help a bit. 4mg IV to nothing isn't going to feel good, but it's really not that high of a dose. IV anything to nothing is going to suck.

Try not to overdo it with the benzos.
 
DXM is the thing you must drink from a cough syrup?

I could go buy some but drinking cough syrup seems pretty bad...

How would that work, would I have to drink an entire bottle or just a bit?

and i have no idea what loperamide is
 
Yes, DXM is commonly found in DM cough syrups. In my case I'd drink 230mg, which is the entire contents of a small bottle. If you've never done DXM I don't suggest trying it your first time while you're in w/d, because something like 2 out of every 3 people who try it don't like it. And it would suck to be tripping from DXM if you didn't like it while ALSO in w/d. You might want to try taking like 90mg, which would be like two teaspoons or something, as that would still benefit you, but again, loperamide is more important.
 
tokenname said:
loperamide = IMMODIUM
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lol yes I overlooked that question... see when I see the letter DXM I just up and get all excited and look interest in everything else =D

yes OP, loperamide is immodium, an anti-diarrhea otc med. you should be able to find it at any drug store/supermarket. take like 12mg to start out and as lope is an opioid itself it should provide some relief from w/d more physical and GI related symptoms. But before you take it you should search BL about loperamide and w/d
 
so the loperamide will help only for the "diarrhea" part of the withdrawals, cuz i'm not feeling any Diarrhea atm, maybe a couple stomach cramps that's all, or it will help ALL of the symptoms, and you said I should take it with 2mg Lorazepam ?

And no I've never done DXM, I wouldn't like to try it and be tripping when i'm feeling bad, I think I wont even buy it for the 2 tea spoons.

I'll go get some immodium and i'll take in conjuction with lorazepam and i'll post to see how i feel later tonight or tomorrow...
 
loperamide helps with the cramps too..
combined with dxm can help ALOT..
do some searching on w/d here on bl..all the info's there.

Hope you feel better soon.
<3token
 
Well, although lope does work amazingly well for GI issues, it also can help with the general aches and pains you get while in w/d (although it would probably be best to take loperamide+an NSAID like naproxen/Aleve).

And if you're feeling adventurous, it is possible to get legitimately high from 100mg or so of loperamide. Not necessarily encouraging you too, just making the point that loperamide itself is still an opioid, so it will help you treat your w/d symptoms.

Seriously though, the best way for you to learn more about lope is to search BL and do your own research. There is a whole HOST of info on it out there even on just this site along.

Token: harharharhar :)

OP, and yea, the only reason I said take 2mg of lorazepam is because that's gonna sedate you more than 1mg, and personally I don't think 1mg will provide enough sedation for someone in w/d after an IV habit.
 
OK SO I'M BUMPING MY OLD THREAD cuz it took my lazy ass bum 1 full day to get out of the house and buy loperapide, its way more expensive than i though... they said 20-30 mg wtf?? thats a starting doze? goddamnit oys 8$ for 6x 2mg :| Not gonna pay more than this...<


but i been thinking bout all this bs about the loperamide being an opiate and not crossing the BBB, what If I would inject it?
 
Don't inject it dude. Come on. You're trying to detox. You bought the ticket, take the ride.
 
Benzopiates said:
OK SO I'M BUMPING MY OLD THREAD cuz it took my lazy ass bum 1 full day to get out of the house and buy loperapide, its way more expensive than i though... they said 20-30 mg wtf?? thats a starting doze? goddamnit oys 8$ for 6x 2mg :| Not gonna pay more than this...<


but i been thinking bout all this bs about the loperamide being an opiate and not crossing the BBB, what If I would inject it?
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If you wanna know more about this shoot me a pm, but there is a certain whole sale mega chain in America that sells two bottles of 100 count 2mg loperamide pills for under ten dollars. Yea, it's generally way over priced at your average pharmacy or supermarket, but it's still better than nothing.

20-30mg will still do a good bit to kill some of your physical w/d symptoms. The lowest dose I've ever heard of anyone feeling, in a high sense, is like 40mg, and I'm sure that must have been a very minor sensation of inebriation.

There is absolutely NO point in shooting or sniffing lope and it will cause you more, many many more, problems than it's worth.

Plus you generally need 80mg to actually get high off the stuff, and you would almost certainly kill yourself by shooting so fucking much material.

Loperamide crosses the BBB in small amounts, so therefore if you take enough (80-200mg, although most people will start feeling a nice high around 100mg) then enough will end up crossing the BBB to get you high. Some people state there are some dangerous side effect to using so much lope, but neither I nor anyone I know (or have heard about via BL) who have taken such extremely high doses has had any problems.
 
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