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Benzo Discussion Vol. 3 (I think? Last night's a blur..)

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Hey Mr Acidtek hows you getting along,

Can you have a look at my post 196 and give me the advantage of your knowledge and experience please.

I've never shot up myself but I know how to do it and apparently have great veins, nurses always comment on them when taking blood.

Not seen any fake activas but then I don't indulge in the champagne of Diaz, I'd be fekin bankrupt :)
 
scrooloose said:
doctors won't give me valium anymore,even when they did it was a weeks supply about every three or four weeks.

A doctor (not my usual one) said to me that valerian works in a similar way to valium,something to do with gaba? I've also read that l-theanine could help withdrawal. I know valerian is only H and B high street material,l-theanine pure internet only so could these,however mild help if only slight? Is he right about valerian and valium? It just surprised me he said this about valerian.
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What you want is a Magnolia Officinalis standardized extract, it's active on Gaba and it's like nature's own valium. In blind test studies it was proved to be five times more effective than diazepam in the treatment of anxiety, also it doesn't cause muscle relaxation so doesn't produce WDs.

I swear it has helped me enormously after my three month long etizolam binges, really effective root.

You might also want to try Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), an Ayurvedic herb, I use it to reduce my kratom tolerance and as a booster in combination, but it helps a lot with mild opiate and benzo WDs.

You can get a lot more info online if you google the names of the plants, trust me they really do help.

I've used a lot of herbal remedies for quite a number of years, the Magnolia Officinalis is a whole notch above valerian root in terms of effectiveness, especially if you're coming of benzos.
 
Hello mate, im doing good thanks, I'm off the heroin and managed to get on a script for my Diaz 30mgs a day when I was taking 100mgs before, now I'm doing about 50mg and am tapering, yeH no probs mate I'll take a look at the post :)
 
Atm, they dropped me from 100mg + fakes to 30 mgs over might, and thAt was the medical profession, are you sure you local drug agency won't put you on a reduction script, thats what they did for me?
 
I'm not pedantic, brimz, it's a fact: sublingual lasts less than oral. The more quickly a molecule goes into your system, the more quickly it goes away. Think injecting vs sublingual vs oral. That makes sense.
 
Acidtek said:
Atm, they dropped me from 100mg + fakes to 30 mgs over might, and thAt was the medical profession, are you sure you local drug agency won't put you on a reduction script, thats what they did for me?
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Its an option now because I've finished by CBT, if I'd have admitted it before they would have withdrawn the CBT, a daily pickup is what I really need, it would be a pain in the arse but that way it would be much more difficult for me to slip up. We'll see, I'll probably try to tape myself first off, I've got allot of shit sorted out in my life over the last few months and I'm starting Tai Chi next week hopefully. If I fail this time at least I know the local addiction center as they got me off the booze.

Its tricky with work to find enough excuses to go to "doctor's appointments"
 
You should go on a reduction script mate, I have to do daily pickup but my chemist is 30secs from where I live! What ever works best for you mate but it's hard to taper with inconsistent fakes
 
Does anyone enjoy a benzo blackout? I find it makes me feel alright? Although i didnt like the phenny blackouts, fucked for a week haha those were the days. I just eyeballed a small amount shouldnt blank out with a tiny amount. Should add that was etizolam powder not phenazepam powder lol
 
jungo87 said:
Does anyone enjoy a benzo blackout? I find it makes me feel alright? Although i didnt like the phenny blackouts, fucked for a week haha those were the days. I just eyeballed a small amount shouldnt blank out with a tiny amount. Should add that was etizolam powder not phenazepam powder lol
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Ask knockando about eyeballing etizolam powder and you may not be so gung-ho about doing it as you seem to be.

I'm sure the powder works out far cheaper from some sources, but you need to either liquid dose or use highly expensive milligram scales if you're going to experiment with it. Otherwise you may find you repeat some of your phenazepam fiascos if you're not very careful.

As for some of the 'pellets' being fake, aren't most of them just Etilaam pills taken out of the blister and repackaged?

I wouldn't be so keen to take the risk personally, seeing as Etilaam pills can be obtained very cheaply indeed and are far more convenient.
 
jungo87 said:
Does anyone enjoy a benzo blackout? I find it makes me feel alright? Although i didnt like the phenny blackouts, fucked for a week haha those were the days. I just eyeballed a small amount shouldnt blank out with a tiny amount. Should add that was etizolam powder not phenazepam powder lol
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Don't really see the point with black outs with any drugs. If drugs were free then yeah, but the fact they cost money and you are paying coin for a few strips of blues, eating them and then waking up / coming together 2-3 days remembering pretty much fuck all. Just doesn't appeal to me and feels like a waste of money.

Have to say though it was funny one time was on a bus to grab some drone with my mate who had prior munched a good 12 diaz and was steadily, or should I say rapidly getting through a ten glass of vodka. He managed to get on the bus, we went and sniffed the drone, got back on the bus to were we were, turned round to him and said, "That drone hitting ya?" his reply, "What meph???" he'd completely forgot that we were two mins off a bus and had flown all the way up, sniffed a gram of mephedrone and came back. He just thought he'd been there the entire time.
 
Mental Kenny said:
What you want is a Magnolia Officinalis standardized extract, it's active on Gaba and it's like nature's own valium. In blind test studies it was proved to be five times more effective than diazepam in the treatment of anxiety, also it doesn't cause muscle relaxation so doesn't produce WDs.

I swear it has helped me enormously after my three month long etizolam binges, really effective root.

You might also want to try Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), an Ayurvedic herb, I use it to reduce my kratom tolerance and as a booster in combination, but it helps a lot with mild opiate and benzo WDs.

You can get a lot more info online if you google the names of the plants, trust me they really do help.

I've used a lot of herbal remedies for quite a number of years, the Magnolia Officinalis is a whole notch above valerian root in terms of effectiveness, especially if you're coming of benzos.
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Very interesting. Thanks for the info MK.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Ask knockando about eyeballing etizolam powder and you may not be so gung-ho about doing it as you seem to be.

I'm sure the powder works out far cheaper from some sources, but you need to either liquid dose or use highly expensive milligram scales if you're going to experiment with it. Otherwise you may find you repeat some of your phenazepam fiascos if you're not very careful.

As for some of the 'pellets' being fake, aren't most of them just Etilaam pills taken out of the blister and repackaged?

I wouldn't be so keen to take the risk personally, seeing as Etilaam pills can be obtained very cheaply indeed and are far more convenient.
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I have blanked out on etizolam a few times, not a pretty sight although phenny was worse. I tried the pellets which worked until they crumbly, chalky pellets came.
 
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