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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread: Second Dose
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atrollappears
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Acquired a gram of MDAI to test quality before buying in bulk, but I have not taken this compound before so I don't know how to rank the potency. I was hoping you guys could help me figure out if I got a good product. Unfortunately, I didn't sleep last night and ingested ~45 mg amphetamine today, so I don't know how accurate my assay is (the psychological amphetamine effects had essentially worn off when I tried the MDAI).
The powder is the color of ovaltine, maybe a little lighter.
Reagent test results were:
Marquis: Blood red
Mecke: Similar blood red, but with a purple tinge that slowly developed
Simon: Negative
Dose: 60 mg, insufflated over 30 minutes
I felt relaxation strikingly similar to benzodiazepines/high dose theanine, but with none of the tiredness, sluggishness, or cognitive impairment. My body tingled pleasantly---I greatly enjoyed this and the feeling of emotional contentment. It was more than just contentment though. I felt like I imagine people who are just naturally very happy feel day-to-day, those people who are always gregarious and just seem to enjoy whatever they're doing. I was rather open and sociable (more than on 4-FA, even) but it felt very natural rather than manic. Maybe slight alteration of sense of reality, couldn't tell. Likely due to sleep deprivation. Effects gradually descended to baseline an hour and a half to two hours later.
a) This sounds like MDAI, right?
b) This seems to be a rather potent sample, correct? I see people usually report 2-6 times this dose. I'm sure the amphetamine potentiated it though.
The powder is the color of ovaltine, maybe a little lighter.
Reagent test results were:
Marquis: Blood red
Mecke: Similar blood red, but with a purple tinge that slowly developed
Simon: Negative
Dose: 60 mg, insufflated over 30 minutes
I felt relaxation strikingly similar to benzodiazepines/high dose theanine, but with none of the tiredness, sluggishness, or cognitive impairment. My body tingled pleasantly---I greatly enjoyed this and the feeling of emotional contentment. It was more than just contentment though. I felt like I imagine people who are just naturally very happy feel day-to-day, those people who are always gregarious and just seem to enjoy whatever they're doing. I was rather open and sociable (more than on 4-FA, even) but it felt very natural rather than manic. Maybe slight alteration of sense of reality, couldn't tell. Likely due to sleep deprivation. Effects gradually descended to baseline an hour and a half to two hours later.
a) This sounds like MDAI, right?
b) This seems to be a rather potent sample, correct? I see people usually report 2-6 times this dose. I'm sure the amphetamine potentiated it though.
Okami
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60mg? That's certainly more potent than what I got as MDAI, but what I got wasn't necessarily MDAI so who knows? The best way I would describe is mood elevation, rather than euphoria or relaxation. It made me feel the way you do after a nice day with a couple of friends doing nothing. Contentment is as good a way to put it as any and again it wasn't forced like mdma or stimulants, but still not 100% natural. Mine has effects that last longer though. Probably about 3-4 hours? Also the last time I had it 2 weeks ago, it was an eyeballed dose that was quite large (anywhere from 300 to 400mg), and it made me feel extremely warm/hot not dissimilar to alcohol warmth, I also after about 6 hours afterwards experienced a comedown identical to mdma in nature but stronger got very depressed, but that only lasted for about 2 hours. I also find it fucks up my sleep, no clue as to why though. Mine was white, but I'm afraid I have no test results.
atrollappears
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It's possible that sleep deprivation and amphetamine had a strong effect on it. I don't think I ever got anything like that from the rest of my sample. I now have another sample which is slightly off-white.
Reagent test results:
Marquis: Red which slowly turns to dark brown. Fizzes initially.
Mecke: Slight green which also slowly turns to dark brown.
Simon: Negative
This sample responded less strongly to the reagent tests, so it's possible that these colors could have been hidden in the results for my previous sample.
Will report back with bioassay, so that these test results can be used as a reference to evaluate the likely potency of a sample.
Update: This sample is definitely more potent. A dose of 150 mg orally provides a strong body high, relaxation, contentment, and tactile enhancement. I don't know why everyone seems down on MDAI, this is awesome
I might buy a large quantity of it and just use it in the place of alcohol. Very little if any comedown, maybe a little emotional fragility the day or two after, but nothing beyond that, although that's the only thing I get from MDMA too so I don't know how it would play out for other people. Actually, having taken it last night (12 hours ago) I still have a body high and feelings of contentment. This time I took a stack of antioxidants before it and 200 mg 5-HTP after.
Reagent test results:
Marquis: Red which slowly turns to dark brown. Fizzes initially.
Mecke: Slight green which also slowly turns to dark brown.
Simon: Negative
This sample responded less strongly to the reagent tests, so it's possible that these colors could have been hidden in the results for my previous sample.
Will report back with bioassay, so that these test results can be used as a reference to evaluate the likely potency of a sample.
Update: This sample is definitely more potent. A dose of 150 mg orally provides a strong body high, relaxation, contentment, and tactile enhancement. I don't know why everyone seems down on MDAI, this is awesome
I might buy a large quantity of it and just use it in the place of alcohol. Very little if any comedown, maybe a little emotional fragility the day or two after, but nothing beyond that, although that's the only thing I get from MDMA too so I don't know how it would play out for other people. Actually, having taken it last night (12 hours ago) I still have a body high and feelings of contentment. This time I took a stack of antioxidants before it and 200 mg 5-HTP after.
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I just got 1g from a highly reliable (at least in all other orders) supplier who isn't UK based, which I think is where a lot of the MDAI urban legends come from. It's a fine brown powder, and claims that it's 98%+ pure. I did a Mecke/Marquis, and the Mecke fizzled like crazy and then turned pitch black with brown outer edges, and the Marquis turned orange and then turned dark purple/black as well.
It definitely seems to react in the same way as an MDA/MDMA, but give the talk of Brown being bad, and years of fake/substitutes being sold as MDAI, I'm concerned about this. From what I'm reading it sounds really awesome (when real), but I'm afraid it's either a low-quality batch, or something else.
I was told that likely the next batch made was going to be washed of its brown color, as the purity is the about same, but that having tested 99%+ purity tested MDAI will be sell better. I'm likely going to try 150mg tonight, as I haven't taken any MD(X) chemicals in months, or Methylone or Mephedrone ever.
This seems like it's a cheap, solid alternative to a lot of RCs and MDMA copycats, but I don't like this specific compound having its online data ALL over the fucking place. I was planning on putting it in a gelcap, or possibly bombing it, as it has a potent smell to it, but - any red flags here, aside from the "ingesting random compounds ordered from the internet that have no regulation on them?"
It definitely seems to react in the same way as an MDA/MDMA, but give the talk of Brown being bad, and years of fake/substitutes being sold as MDAI, I'm concerned about this. From what I'm reading it sounds really awesome (when real), but I'm afraid it's either a low-quality batch, or something else.
I was told that likely the next batch made was going to be washed of its brown color, as the purity is the about same, but that having tested 99%+ purity tested MDAI will be sell better. I'm likely going to try 150mg tonight, as I haven't taken any MD(X) chemicals in months, or Methylone or Mephedrone ever.
This seems like it's a cheap, solid alternative to a lot of RCs and MDMA copycats, but I don't like this specific compound having its online data ALL over the fucking place. I was planning on putting it in a gelcap, or possibly bombing it, as it has a potent smell to it, but - any red flags here, aside from the "ingesting random compounds ordered from the internet that have no regulation on them?"
Transcendence
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My 2cents:
This drug has gotten a mixed reputation because it is being commonly sold in a significantly impure form or something else entirely.
This drug is STONG. I have had tested pure MDMA on several occasions and I think this has the potential to be everybit as intense as MDMA. The difference is the relative (although not total) lack of stimulation and a slight opoid-like sedation. As far as I can tell there's no real crash or next day depression.
I prefer this to 6-apb and consider it on par with MDMA (really).
One thing I've been wondering about are parameters for usage frequency. This is obviously not an every day drug and probably not an every week drug. I can sense it could tip emotionally sensitive individuals over the edge. I know Bluelight's policy is to "play it safe" and since we know little about this compound, the once per month minimum mdma rule should probably apply.
But, I hope someone more knowledgeable than me about neuropharmacology can help me out: Since this is a selective serotonin releaser, is it any likely to be less likely to cause depression than MDMA if used often?
BTW, my batch is pure white, with needle-like crystals.
This drug has gotten a mixed reputation because it is being commonly sold in a significantly impure form or something else entirely.
This drug is STONG. I have had tested pure MDMA on several occasions and I think this has the potential to be everybit as intense as MDMA. The difference is the relative (although not total) lack of stimulation and a slight opoid-like sedation. As far as I can tell there's no real crash or next day depression.
I prefer this to 6-apb and consider it on par with MDMA (really).
One thing I've been wondering about are parameters for usage frequency. This is obviously not an every day drug and probably not an every week drug. I can sense it could tip emotionally sensitive individuals over the edge. I know Bluelight's policy is to "play it safe" and since we know little about this compound, the once per month minimum mdma rule should probably apply.
But, I hope someone more knowledgeable than me about neuropharmacology can help me out: Since this is a selective serotonin releaser, is it any likely to be less likely to cause depression than MDMA if used often?
BTW, my batch is pure white, with needle-like crystals.
Transcendence
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Oh yeah, and no jaw clenching even on high doses? WIN.
Hi!
Here I left my short experiencie with MDAI:
I bought 500 mg of MDAI, then analized it: it was MDAI, sinthesys subproducts and a solid diluent.
Not so pure, but I tried 60 mg. It make me feel slightly depressed, so around 12 am I fell asleep. Around 3 hours later I woke up feeling feverish and confused.
I also was taking Paroxetine 10 mg ED. Could it be a mild SS?
I'm still taking Paroxetine, so I couldn't give it another try.
Here I left my short experiencie with MDAI:
I bought 500 mg of MDAI, then analized it: it was MDAI, sinthesys subproducts and a solid diluent.
Not so pure, but I tried 60 mg. It make me feel slightly depressed, so around 12 am I fell asleep. Around 3 hours later I woke up feeling feverish and confused.
I also was taking Paroxetine 10 mg ED. Could it be a mild SS?
I'm still taking Paroxetine, so I couldn't give it another try.
BananasAndOranges
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Dont ro that again. mixing rcs with prozac...bad idea
atrollappears
Bluelighter
4-FA 120 mg + MDAI 150 mg is pretty damn good, like E but actually more energy I'd say. I think if I try the combo again I might even go lighter on the 4-FA and heavier on the MDAI
Oh, and I feel fine the next day, woke up with an afterglow and had no trouble in a 3 hour block of class. Took antioxidants before and after and postloaded with 5-HTP before going to sleep and upon waking up.
Oh, and I feel fine the next day, woke up with an afterglow and had no trouble in a 3 hour block of class. Took antioxidants before and after and postloaded with 5-HTP before going to sleep and upon waking up.
Is Paroxetine Prozac? I didn't think it was
As a side note, is taking MDAI while on Prozac actually bad? From what I understood of reading both the big and dandy threads it would just dull the effects of the MDAI somewhat
No, Prozac is Fluoxetine, but both are SSRIs. I also thought that my low dose of Paroxetine only will dull the effects of MDAI, luckly I was cautious and took only ~60 mg MDAI. I cannot tell that MDAI+SSRI=SS, but I won't try it again.
phatass
Bluelighter
do you guys find MDAI smells kinndof sweet? like bubble gum a bit
atrollappears
Bluelighter
My MDAI has no scent. I may send in a sample of mine to ecstasydata.org, and if I do and it turns out to be pure MDAI I will provide you guys with whatever information you want about its physical properties (already posted reagent test results).
I just wish it weren't so steep, $120 for one test 8( I'm tempted to press it into an E pill and send it in for 40 xD
I just wish it weren't so steep, $120 for one test 8( I'm tempted to press it into an E pill and send it in for 40 xD
Okami
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Why do they charge 3x the amount for a powder? What possible reason do they have to justify that?
mine is also a white powder, but it contains NO MDAI at all...
Laboratory analysis showed a mixture of BZP and TFMPP (altogether 40% )
and Caffeine ( 60% ) ... and no MDAI at all... it was from UK 8(
so test your "mdai" because many suppliers often sell something else
labeled as "mdai" ... sometimes cathinones, sometimes piperazines,
and who knows what more... and this is why we have to test it !!!
and then report our results to the public! people have to know this!
(i'm not saying that "most of MDAI" is fake, we don't have enough
data to claim something like that, but for sure we can say that
there is alarmingly high percentage of fake MDAI on the market)
we have to take some steps in order to change this
Laboratory analysis showed a mixture of BZP and TFMPP (altogether 40% )
and Caffeine ( 60% ) ... and no MDAI at all... it was from UK 8(
so test your "mdai" because many suppliers often sell something else
labeled as "mdai" ... sometimes cathinones, sometimes piperazines,
and who knows what more... and this is why we have to test it !!!
and then report our results to the public! people have to know this!
(i'm not saying that "most of MDAI" is fake, we don't have enough
data to claim something like that, but for sure we can say that
there is alarmingly high percentage of fake MDAI on the market)
we have to take some steps in order to change this
also, i wonder, is there some kind of "black list" of suppliers who sell fake mdai?
(and any other "fake labeled" chemicals)... or something similar like that ??
here, we cannot post sources... but i wonder, is there some site where
we can find info on this, and also to send our info for all the people to know...
(and any other "fake labeled" chemicals)... or something similar like that ??
here, we cannot post sources... but i wonder, is there some site where
we can find info on this, and also to send our info for all the people to know...