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LSD & Intelligence / IQ

I think I would score very poorly if I took an IQ test on LSD.

I seriously have trouble subtracting hours and minutes on a clock when I'm on acid, let alone solving more advanced logical problems...
 
Well it can help you think in different and abstract ways, and analyze normal things in a way you cannot without LSD. With that being said, someone going into dropping acid with the intention of becoming a smarter and overall more wise person is going to end up with HPPD and probably be close to a vegetable in society. Using it once in a while to gain new value on things, and new perspective i guess can be a good thing if your trips went perfectly. But if your intention is to use it normally and become an overall smarter person, you should not be using LSD or other psyches for that matter.
 
Does LSD create new brain cells?
No. It's more likely that it creates new synapses in areas which aren't usually used. It would make more sense but I have no proof for this.

Does it make you smarter?
I believe it's quite the opposite. It makes you realise that you're more stupid than you think you are and because of that knowledge you act different (and better) and, in the eyes of others, it results as people seeing you smarter.
 
šljiva said:
Does it make you smarter?
I believe it's quite the opposite. It makes you realise that you're more stupid than you think you are and because of that knowledge you act different (and better) and, in the eyes of others, it results as people seeing you smarter.
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I agree. It helps remove the intellectual arrogance and overconfidence in humanity's ability to objectively study and understand the universe which is so prevelant in our 'scientific age' of technology and 'progress'.
 
acidclouds said:
I agree. It helps remove the intellectual arrogance and overconfidence in humanity's ability to objectively study and understand the universe which is so prevelant in our 'scientific age' of technology and 'progress'.
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Indeed. I couldn't find the words for this :]
 
It definitely makes you see the world in ways that you previously thought impossible. Look at Steve Jobs.
 
i think that LSD can definitely improve your ability to score well on an IQ test because it fine tunes your intuitive and logical thinking abilities; they did experiments with scientists in the 60s by specifically choosing people experiencing a "mental block"

but i saw a video where alexander & anne shulgin explained they think we need a better way to measure intelligence, and i can somewhat see why

1.) Any study involving Timothy Leary isn't worth a damn.
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i think if it wasn't for T. Leary many of us wouldn't have even heard of LSD... i think he was wreckless, yes, but he was undeniably necessary to the point we've got to now. imagine how society would be now without the sixties.................................. it's a monochrome thought...........

I have to put in a good word for Leary. Robert Anton Wilson's eight-circuit model of consciousness is based on Leary's ideas, and it's incredibly interesting. Alright I'm done.
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oh my goodness yes, i saw that the other day it's fascinating. the description they had of alcohol and the ego games is spot on, there's some really interesting, thought-provoking ideas there, albeit some are quite "far-out"

5 weekends in a row.. i don't think i've necessarily had the opposite effect, but what i have experienced is chronic 'up' and 'downs' with emotions
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well you are playing with the serotonin levels in your brain; you must take care of yourself if you want to get more out of the experiences then they get out of you
 
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I'm stashing up doses for school next semester.. It'll be my first one back in academia in a while and I know it will help me stay motivated and focused.. Also going to pick up some 2c-d for it's nootropic qualities. Has anyone here used LSD as a nootropic successfully?
 
Don't believe what anybody says about 2C-X having nootropic qualities. I firmly believe that if you try chronic dosing of even sub-threshold does of a psychedelic "just for the stimulation and mood boost" you will eventually run into tolerance issues and "sobering of the special mindstate" in which the drug no longer produces its desired effects, and may even create a chemical imbalance or dependence.

Feel free to trip your balls off on 2C-D when you're finished with homework (or if the professor's lecture isn't quite sinking in) but I gotta say your memory will most likely be degraded, not improved, by chronic 2C-X use.
 
Personally I think it's about as likely a second bump to the head bringing your memory back
 
artistic iq deffinetly, (drawing all these psychedelic eyes)

spatial thinking greatly,(im flying down that wormhole and its fun)

pattern recognition greatly(seeing all the litle particels of a great whole and the oposite)

creative thought tremendously(the idea of god?. who is god .?Im god. shit too egoistic. you are god shit something wrong.we are god ?maybe there is no god??what god is anyway ?)

problem solving ??? heh i dunno (all problems seem solved or not important )

physics and maths .. heh

motor skills WOW!! ninjaaaa

trance dance wow (involves with artistic iq)

and more stuff but after the expirience only traces remain deeply in my soul traces good enough to start transforming my conciousness to the next level (motivation to do things to bring happienes to me and you )

namaste
 
rocknroll702 said:
how often would it be said "ok" to drop ? if only taking 1-2 hits each time?
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Ok in what sense? The trouble with taking 1-2 hits every week is the tolerance would mean that after 3 weeks your trip wouldn't be worth shit.

If the trip hits you as hard every time from the same dose then you're leaving it long enough.
 
I gotta say I disagree about psychedelics simply "not having" nootropic qualities. I've gone to every effort to never gain a tolerance before, I've tripped maybe once every 3-4 months iirc.. I think as someone who holds quite a bit of self control over their "recreational" psychedelic use that I could use them as nootropics quite effectively. YMMV of course but I'm confident I can get the use I desire of them with a little bit of thought and determination.
 
I don't think it was 10% but 10 points though it usually doesn't differ all that much. Also I think the claim was that people of average intelligence did not score better after LSD use (I take it we are talking about multiple use over time) but that people who are already significantly above average intelligence are able to unlock potential more easily and might be able to become even better at pattern recognition sort of mental operations.

None of this should be considered science but I can see psychedelics unlocking things like this in some cases but certainly not all cases. I believe the same for artistic / creative potential and out-of-the-box thinking. On the other hand psychedelics can also bring out latent mental disorders so I guess that evens the balance.
As a general rule I think - and this is also my personal experience - that psychedelics can make you more characteristically you and catalyze processes that exploit your potentials whether good bad or neutral. If this is said to sometimes reflect in intelligence test scores I am not entirely opposed to that, but neither would I ever say that "LSD increases IQ by 10% (or points)", it's way too delicate and complex regarding personal development and there are like 8 types of intelligence distinguished I think.
 
I wouldn't say it would change your IQ but, I have found after it I have a better appreciation with nature, I feel a lot more straight edge and also feel that it hasn't made me smarter but has opened old things that I once knew.
 
Solipsis said:
As a general rule I think - and this is also my personal experience - that psychedelics can make you more characteristically you and catalyze processes that exploit your potentials whether good bad or neutral. If this is said to sometimes reflect in intelligence test scores I am not entirely opposed to that, but neither would I ever say that "LSD increases IQ by 10% (or points)", it's way too delicate and complex regarding personal development and there are like 8 types of intelligence distinguished I think.
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exactly this. i feel psychedelic use helps me to see things more clearly and make the proper educated life decisions with the motivation behind them to be succesful.

this is highly dependent on your reason for using them though. I definatly did not have the same attitude years ago...
 
2 question about LSD.
How does LSD effect intelligence(math,accountin,etc) can it effect it in a negative way,can it cause brain damage?
second question
what is the maximum time that a person can trip for example if someone drink a bottle of acid will he be tripping for good or what the fuck will happen?
 
bigbangaz said:
what is the maximum time that a person can trip for example if someone drink a bottle of acid will he be tripping for good or what the fuck will happen?
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National geographic, Drugs in. - Hallucinogens : www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0WJQPyhXrE

At about 17 minutes in a cops talks about how he accidentally consumed about 1000 hits of acid and he tripped for 24 hours. I don't think you can trip longer than that. He got permanent brain damage though.
 
Ppl say it doesn't effect iq
But in a report a child accidentally ingested two hits
It was 6 month before her iq reatched what it was before

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Just watched the cop bit
How did they work out how much he had been dosed with they just say he had small cuts on his face and was in a lsd lab
 
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