I notice from other trip reports that people seem to enjoy 500mcg to 1mg doses of 25i. It appears thats because they want a full blown psychadelic experience. But what if someone wanted to retain decent motor control and be able to "put aside the trip" to do something while tripping- like make tea on the stove or pack a bowl or find your way in and out of a concert arena without getting lost and be able to find the bathroom when you are there and just be able to deal with people if need be? The purpose of this experiment was to find a low dose quantity that would produce an enjoyable psychadelic experience without losing mental ability and physical dexterity. Not everyone is a hard head and this subject certainly takes no pride in bragging about taking stupidly huge dosages.
Subject: very healthy male, 117 lbs., accustomed to very sedentary lifestyle, 40y/o, last trip was 2 months earlier on insulfated 25i.
Using a cheap mg scale with known linearity of +- 4mg, 16 to 25 mg freebase 25i-NBOMe was weighed out and dissolved in 20 ml dehydrated etoh. The etoh was dehydrated in advance using 3A molecular sieves. The actual amount of 25i weighed out was probably closer to 16 mg. The goal was to produce 1mg/ml solution. Then, 200 mg HPBCD was weighed out and added to the solution. Both components easily dissolved. A solution of 0.7mg/ml (25i:etoh) was probably acheived instead.
0.25 mL solution was drawn out with 1mL syringe marked with .01mL increments. The solution was then slowly applied to a suspended blotter over the course of maybe 10 minutes and allowed to dry. The goal was to produce a 160 to 250 mcg dose of 25i complexed with HPBCD on blotter but an amount closer to 160mcg was probably acheived. The blotter was a 1 x 3/4 inch piece of coffee filter.
The blotter was cut in half lengthwise and both halves placed between upper lip and gums and held for 30 minutes. 30 minutes was probably unnecessary but the blotter stayed in place very easily. No taste or numbing was sensed. Just felt like having a piece of paper in the mouth.
2 hrs later mild OEVs began to be noticeable. Euphoria and increased energy was noticed. OEVs werent much more than waves of visual distortion and very mild tracers. There was very little loss of motor control.
3 hrs after dosing, Oolong tea was made; dinner was cooked and consumed. Some time was then spent on the computer reading and responding to online forums. Enjoyed listening to Sunday Baroque.
6 hrs after dosing, CEVs became evident. And it was like exactly 6 hrs to the minute like a switch was flipped. It was noticed that suddenly something was different. The CEVs werent immediately apparent when closing the eyes but with calming the mental activity and focusing the attention on the CEVs, after maybe 2 minutes, they exploded like kaleidoscopic fireworks. Really freakin beautiful. So it would take a bit of meditation to make the CEVs happen but they did! Problem was maintaining the focus on the CEVs, for as soon as the mind wandered onto some other subject, the CEVs dissappeared. This could be good practice for learning meditation. Also, at this stage, a lot of the earlier stimulation had worn off. So, it was easier to sit/lie down and try to experience the CEVs. This stage continued for another 4-5 hrs until sleep was attained.
8 hrs after dosing, synthabinoids JWH-081 and JWH-250 were smoked at a rate of about 0.5mg or less every 30 minutes or so until subject finally went to sleep. The synthabinoids seemed to enhance the over all experience with particular regard to the OEVs and CEVs.
The following day was great. No residual body load or back of the head headache or brain drain feelings. Normal energy and activity levels were felt.
Total experience from time of dosage was 11 hrs.
Summary/conclusions: I think many people like higher doses because they want their face rubbed in the psychadelic experience. But for a more controlable experience, lower doses can be just as enjoyable. The dose produced as described above may really have been a bit low but is definitely above threshold. The accuracy of the amount measured was limited by the linearity of the scale used. This subject suspects threshold may be around 100mcg but doesnt remember what others have to say in that regard. A similar amount of bodily control could probably be retained with a dose between 250 to 350 mcg. The OEVs may be a bit more developed at that dosage range. CEVs would be easier to enjoy. At that range, the first 6 hrs may also not be too physically stimulating. Dosing in this range may also be more amenable to being in a social environment in comparison to a high dose. Still, driving would not be recommended but the subject should retain good fine motor control and a sitter should not have to worry much about the subject. Late in the trip, the two above mentioned synthabinoids seemed to compliment the 25i very well. Overall message, try lower doses if you want to run around, be with people, and have manual dexterity with out being a tripped out spaz.
Oh yeah, people who make blotters with freebase and dont complex it and find that it doesnt do anything didnt actually absorb any of it- you wasted your material. The reason behind complexing with HPBCD is to make this stuff absorbable since it is not water soluble. Please do your homework. I believe that complexing with HPBCD is the easiest, least problematic and most effective way to handle this stuff. 25i complexed in this manner should also increase its stability since the HPBCD surrounds the 25i molecule which would theoretically reduce its exposure to oxygen, humidity, light, blah blah blah, although probably no legitimate studies have been done to determine if this is so. Thank tregar for your contribution on this subject.
