Advanced tripping: 2.0

[Nephtys]

Hey,

I've tripped around 20 times now.
Does someone some more advanced thing to do while tripping, you wouldn't recommend beginners?
I was thinking myself to combine some lsd and keta in a complete dark environment %)

 

[wayab]

I was thinking myself to combine some lsd and keta in a complete dark environment %)

such a beautiful idea

 

[lolusername]

I don't know if this counts, but 2c-e and dxm was a pretty 'advanced' combo :D
It is really intense, not really something I'd like to repeat. Mind blowing, though.

psychedelics + dissociatives = holy shit i'm tripping balls

 

[wayab]

offtopic: i keep reading how dxm + serotonin psychedelics = danger
and i keep reading how people do it with no ill effects
so whats the reality of dxm+psychedelics
i have combined low doses of dxm and lsa some years back (very nice trip) and more recently took some dipt&4acodmt(low doses) at the end of 3d platoe(guess i felt lucky) and was great but i was wondering what kind of risk exactly did i put myself in...

 

[MrDiamondFDC]

I don't know if this counts, but 2c-e and dxm was a pretty 'advanced' combo :D
It is really intense, not really something I'd like to repeat. Mind blowing, though.

psychedelics + dissociatives = holy shit i'm tripping balls

DXM+2C-I was quite lovely the couple times I mixed them.

 

[Chemical Wizard]

DXM and MDMA is a deadly combo, therefor DXM + 2C-x psychedelics, and especially 2c-t-x psychedelics are getting into unknown/dangerous territory.

 

[PsychedelicDoctor]

Yea, I wouldn't fuck around with that combo. DXM is pretty bad all around. Feels shitty and I have never walked away with anything constructive. I don't even know if I've had fun. 2c-e also makes my body feel bad. That combo would kill me I think.

 

[lolusername]

DXM and MDMA is a deadly combo, therefor DXM + 2C-x psychedelics, and especially 2c-t-x psychedelics are getting into unknown/dangerous territory.

The 2c- family is drastically different then MDMA. It has a very different structure and effects. I don't think you can assume that 2c-x are dangerous because MDMA is to mix with dxm.
On the other hand the 2c-t-x series are possibly MAOI's and that would indeed be a very dangerous combo.

 

[PsychedelicDoctor]

Well the whole problem with MDMA is the serotonin release, correct? I suppose aMT is also a danger then.

 

[lolusername]

As far as I know the 2c-'s don't release serotonin, so they should be safe. Coming up on 2c-e + dxm was rough but I felt no danger in it.

 

[PsychedelicDoctor]

good to know. I am not the man I once was. a younger me might've seen what's up. what were your doses?

 

[Jesusgreen]

Please don't turn this into a "What should I take" thread guys and just offer drugs to take, or this'll have to be closed.

We should keep this to discussing tasks that more experienced trippers would benefit from.

I'll start with a few:
- Do something creative! When you're new to psychedelics it's hard to really channel the energy you're getting as it can be too much, or you just want to go with it, but once you've got a grip on the experience, use it! Draw, write, play an instrument, sing!
- Work through your problems, or a friend's problems. This requires two of you, you should trip together on a lighter substance where you're not overwhelmed by mindfuck, but where talking flows easily - I found aMT perfect for this. Just talk about your problems, let the other person listen and give feedback. This can be wonderfully healing
- Go through a normal day tripping. This does NOT mean driving, going to work, operating machinery etc - but a weekend when you're free, eat breakfast, dose, take the dogs for a walk, go do the shopping (walk there of course!), meet up with friends, watch some TV, etc

 

[kingme]

im a bit afraid this thread is an invitation to do dangerous things... i agree with JG that its probably best to keep this thread oriented more towards interesting tasks rather than doses. otherwise people might think of trying various combos just to prove they are "advanced" trippers, a term which i dont really like and i dont really know what the OP mean by... personally i like feeling like a little kid on a substance and not knowing where the trip will take me...

tripping together with a loved one is definetly something not for the beginner, as it really opens up channels of communication....

 

[lolusername]

good to know. I am not the man I once was. a younger me might've seen what's up. what were your doses?

I took a 354mg bottle of tussin, waited until I came up on that, and then snorted about 12mg of 2c-e. I had to wait until I came up on the syrup because I knew I'd puke it out. I felt really good after I threw up.

 

[bunnyhentman]

Go to a large museum and spend the day there -- outdoor sculpture parks and natural history museums are my favorite.
I really want to trip in the crystals exhibit at the Smithsonian, but I will need to reach post-grad tripping 4.0 skills before I can handle the intense evil-empire vibes there.

 

[ParappaTheRapper]

Meditation can be very rewarding while in states of such heightened awareness. Cooking something can get pretty crazy too. I like to go for drives...but I wouldn't really recommend that.

 

[Aporia]

Listing to music that is meant to challenge yourself...
Psychic TV
Legendary Pink Dots
Current 93
Mogwai

..etc

I still am working my way to a few artists that challenge my self. They take me someplace deep inside my brain where I am forced figure out why these noises are creating certain emotions and work through those.

Sex is AMAZING-and the experimentation therof if you have trusting, honest, willing participants.

Talking with open, honest people about philosophical, religious or political theories (which I realize is something novices may do naturally but I find that it can really disorient some)

Personal self exploration

 

[PsychedelicDoctor]

tripping together with a loved one is definetly something not for the beginner, as it really opens up channels of communication....

i think tripping with a loved one is a great place to start

 

[psychicpsycho]

I love to cook while im tripping or draw or do any task that reuquires concentration and attention to detail. I find myself more inspired as i go about the task and minute details to projects become more apparent and i wind up forcing myself to concentrate more so than normal on them.
If im taking trip its for one of two reasons:
1. I have a great task or a lot of difficult tasks ahead and I need to think from an alternate perspective to gain new insight on how to handle the situation/ I want to effectively plot out a plan of actions for the next few months.
2. I have someone who I love and trust and I wish to bond with them in a deep way. I want to understand them and let them understand me from a level we can not access so easily in normal states. It is used to see who i can trust and who I can call friends/lovers/brothers/sisters.

Used properly psychedelics can create highly advanced and beautiful bonds between you and your fellow humans. It can show you the beauty of creation or the depths of your own inner psyche. It can transform us into more complete, functioning and loving people or it can destroy our consciousness entirely and leave only shattered pieces for us to rebuild. It all depends on how you use it and how your mind works. Done right they are effective tools for honing your minds abilities and showing you that the only limits we have are the ones we imagine to exist. Its a message from god to live your life and pay attention more to the things we overlook because if we can connect the right dots in life we can make true magic out of daily existence if we take the lessons learned and apply them to the waking world.

 

[MyExcuse]

My biggest advice looking for more "advanced" tripping would be to look for some drug or combination of drugs that few have tried.

I think the most extreme state you can get into would be dissociatives + tryptamines and external sensory deprivation. There are further additions to enhance the experience but they might put one at risk for mortal harm.