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Mixmag - "Methoxetamine = roflcoptr" - *MUST READ*

Mixmag publish article about MXE, using previously unheard-of slang term "roflcoptr", a name only used by one particular vendor. At same time, said vendor overhauls site, leading us to believe that there is collusion between vendor and publication.

Those weren't even sentences.
 
Roflcoptr commented on NME.COM.
You need to stop with these articles. I'm running out of the stuff. By the way, if anybody wants to employ a viral marketing consultant I'm thinking of switching careers, I seem to have a previously untapped talent for it and this job doesn't look like it's got much of a future.

Sorry for the repost but I think this is worth emphasising. This was posted around 1.30 on NME.com. I think we have the twat on the run.
 
Man sets up site selling MXE as 'roflcoptr', gets Mixmag journo friend to give him 2 page advert. Er, article.

In one.

Mixmag publish article about MXE, using previously unheard-of slang term "roflcoptr", a name only used by one particular vendor. At same time, said vendor overhauls site, leading us to believe that there is collusion between vendor and publication.

Those weren't even sentences.
Thanks. That was roughly my understanding, but wanted validation.

And the concern over the Mixmag/Grauniad/Global Drug Survey recruitment thread is that, presumably, Mixmag has discredited itself (snigger) as a responsible publication, thus we should not support their endeavours (or those who choose to associate with them)?
 
^Yeah, pretty much. From what I understand (please correct me if I am wrong), Drug Studies is looking to really progress and become a valuable resource for legitimate researchers, and from what I can see, hosting market research for organisations with such intimate relationships with RC vendors doesn't really fit with the new direction of that forum. Obviously, that's your job, I leave it in your capable hands, I just wanted to draw it to your attention.
 
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Sorry for the repost but I think this is worth emphasising. This was posted around 1.30 on NME.com. I think we have the twat on the run.

Possibly. He knows about Bluelight (mentions it on his website) so he could be reading this thread right now. Could also be that he anticipates that this publicity will lead to an MXE ban. (But before that happens he can make some sweet sweet money.)

Thanks. That was roughly my understanding, but wanted validation.

And the concern over the Mixmag/Grauniad/Global Drug Survey recruitment thread is that, presumably, Mixmag has discredited itself (snigger) as a responsible publication, thus we should not support their endeavours (or those who choose to associate with them)?

Could be that it's Mixmag but I think it's unlikely that a company would get involved in something like this. I think it's more likely that it's just the roflcoptr guy and the writer of the Mixmag article who are involved in this.
 
Sorry for the repost but I think this is worth emphasising. This was posted around 1.30 on NME.com. I think we have the twat on the run.
I thought it was a comment you'd written as a piss take. duh. stoopid moi

great find.

future wise he could be referring to an up and coming substance ban, but the 'untapped talent' comment would say it's not and things have been discussed or are likely to be. lets hope it's the latter
 
Could be that it's Mixmag but I think it's unlikely that a company would get involved in something like this. I think it's more likely that it's just the roflcoptr guy and the writer of the Mixmag article who are involved in this.

Could we accuse the editorship of Mixmag of conspiracy? I doubt it.

Could we accuse them of massively mind-numbingly reckless incompetence and the inability to sub-edit or use google? You bet.

Contact Mixmag
 
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Some one call mixmag! or better the Guardian. Id do it but only possess my works mobile at the moment.

Tel: 020 7078 8400

There is bound to be few of them thinking "oh, shit!, maybe we should do about 2 mins research before doing a 2 page spread"

TBH......i think they (@ mixmag) must know, especially since not one of the completed drug surveys would have mentioned ROLFS-COPTER.


I think there will be a good few of them on ROLFS-COPTER pay list.

Power to bluelight. The damage has already been done and our stance against this is for 1) being shady and underhand and 2) Harm Reduction which is what we are all about (kind of!)
 
^Yeah, pretty much. From what I understand (please correct me if I am wrong), Drug Studies is looking to really progress and become a valuable resource for legitimate researchers, and from what I can see, hosting market research for organisations with such intimate relationships with RC vendors doesn't really fit with the new direction of that forum. Obviously, that's your job, I leave it in your capable hands, I just wanted to draw it to your attention.
Easy tiger.

My opinions on the usefulness of that survey are well-documented in that thread, along with the EADD thread that ran parallel to it.

It's poorly designed, badly-conceived and was only ever going to produce negative headlines and draw unhelpful attention to usage patterns that, frankly, from a harm-reduction perspective, are often better off remaining hidden (or at the very least, kept within an academic environment, rather than in a hysteria-fuelled news publication).

The fact that there is an overt relationship with the Grauniad/Mixmag to promote recruitment was enough to make me (and others) nervous about how the results will/would be used. I generally encourage people to avoid any contact with the media when they're looking to speak to us - whether that be done under the guise of research, 'sympathetic investigation' or wanting to 'hear both sides of the story'. They're just not capable of behaving responsibly. Ever. It falls outside of their remit.

Regarding the proposed link between the Mixmag article author and this vendor... I haven't read the article (as that would mean I would have to buy it, knowing I was spending my money on utter shit). If the article uses a slang term for a substance that only one vendor has used, I must admit, it does look suspicious. However, I can't decide whether that is indicative of:
  • an unpleasant business relationship between journalist and vendor
  • a journalist who simply used a single/limited number of sources to write the article
  • a journalist who bought some 'Roflcoptr' from said vendor, then decided to write a drivellingly unsubstantiated article on it at 3AM while peaking his tits off
Given application of Occam's Razor, I'd go with the second or third option.

I still have concerns over the Global Drug Survey, but this story doesn't really change the nature of them. Knowing that the Global Drugs Survey used the advertising power of a publication that also happens to employ dimwit journalists is just more grist to my mill of cynicism.

Apologies if I've misunderstood anything.
 
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Easy tiger.
Ofc, I wasn't trying to tell you how to do your job, just forcing you to listen to my unsolicited opinion ;) All I wanted to do was to make sure you were aware of issues that you clearly are familiar with, so I'll pipe down.

You might not be able to read the original, but every other article I've seen (such as this one) contain exactly the same (mis)information, including identical anecdotes, so I guess that they've all been written with only Mixmag as a source and are so much of a muchness.
 
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I'd go with the second or third option.

I still have concerns over the Global Drug Survey, but this story doesn't really change the nature of them. Knowing that the Global Drugs Survey used the advertising power of a publication that also happens to employ dimwit journalists is just more grist to my mill of cynicism.

Apologies if I've misunderstood anything.

seriously doubt it's the 2nd n 3rd. unless it was done for technicality, cover their own asses purposes. I don't think there's one other person who's come forward to say theyve purchased roflcoptr here. because it doesnt seem to of been on sale before the article existed.
 
seriously doubt it's the 2nd n 3rd. unless it was done for technicality, cover their own asses purposes. I don't think there's one other person who's come forward to say theyve purchased roflcoptr here. because it doesnt seem to of been on sale before the article existed.

its been on sale from that site under that name since at least september/october (as far back as im personally aware), dont know when it first became active. stumbled across a mention of it on a source discussion board, havent seen or heard of anyone buying from it until this debacle though
 
september/october?

i'd be interested in seeing the stats on the website and its activity between then and now.

doubt it had many hits. vendor was possibly sidetracked for a while, whilst preparing for his 'exclusive' piece
 
Best answer is to stop writing roflhelicopterwopter as he has so google hits are limited. Don't go to papers, it's just publicity.
 
Danny: Exactly what I was thinking. Possibly.

What an irresponsible cunt. I just hope he takes a bit too much, loses his mind, ends up turning to Christianity and donating all his profits to charity. Him being fucked over mentally and financially is the best outcome.
 
Just reported that facebook page. I don't normally do things like this but he needs to be stopped one way or another.

As did I last night. Fuck it.

Best answer is to stop writing roflhelicopterwopter as he has so google hits are limited. Don't go to papers, it's just publicity.

No point. His site is already the number 1 hit on Google & this thread is going to add 0.1% to the publicity. At least we can call the guy a cunt on here.
 
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