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In Love with the injecting ritual more than the drug itself...

I gotta second shady. I haven't IVed before, but damn, you certainly described it very intensely. Puts it all right in my head, and I was anticipating along with you.

Very, very good writing.
 
i know exactly how you feel, you should read my T.R on heroin, i like the way you described that , exactly how i feel with heroin..</3
 
DrugFuckedNZ said:
Am just curious, but why would you want to go back to IM after you have felt the instant effects of IV use?
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There are just some drugs that fare very well with the IM route. :)

Buprenorphine is one of them. I am merely trying to integrate IM buprenorphine (by itself) usage more often into my daily bupe usage so that I don't run out of veins for when it comes time to slam something more than bupe ;) I doubt I'd run out of veins w/ my pace but still. I don't want to find out the hard way.

I also got * alittle * tired of having an ever-growing whilst ever-fading track mark going up all my veins and then disappearing simultaneously. Eventually you can begin to see the wear and tear that begins to get worse and worse as injection sites begin getting used, re-used and re-used again, etc.
 
totally feeling this right now
took a little 2 day vacation from subs and I'm waiting for the WD symptoms so I can switch back to subs, but I'm really anxious to shoot something, and I feel like I'm going to do it too early and get PW's. fffuuuu
 
I smoke my heroin now but when I did inject I really did get a fixation with the whole injecting process.
At times when I had no gear for one reason or another I still had to go through with injecting myself. I would just inject plain water so totally pointless but the urge to inject myself was so bloody strong that I just had to do it.
 
how the hell can anybody enjoy piercing their veins with needles,thats sick and very wrong.I hate when doctor take blood sample,its dude its motherfucking vein,that thing is supposed to be hiddena and intact whole life under skin,theres bloodflow going on,you know blood is important to for living,it leads to your brain and heart and your like hurrr ddurr oh my sweet fix gotta damage my body so good just cant wait
 
I know that it logically doesn't make any sense why folk would get fixated with injecting themselves,but if you never been an injecting user than you just won't be able to understand the urge to do it.
 
DOB said:
how the hell can anybody enjoy piercing their veins with needles,thats sick and very wrong.I hate when doctor take blood sample,its dude its motherfucking vein,that thing is supposed to be hiddena and intact whole life under skin,theres bloodflow going on,you know blood is important to for living,it leads to your brain and heart and your like hurrr ddurr oh my sweet fix gotta damage my body so good just cant wait
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When you are strung out you don't think of it like this. Like normal people think, ok, this person buys this drug that was made in another country and then smuggled into the ghetto, then dump out the drugs that if stamped may have a stamp along the lines of "6 feet under," and proceed to inject it. A person that is strung out does not think of it in such a literal sense, instead it is just the fastest way to not feel completely horrible. They just become desensitized to the whole notion of injecting oneself with drugs.
 
^Exactly this^. And let's face it, snorting synthetics up your nose to the point where you might need a bit of Daniella Westbrook type plastic surgery or plugging them up your arse ain't exactly natural either, is it? From a harm reduction POV we never recommend IV, but then by the same token we shouldn't really recommend anyone change their brain chemistry using other ROAs just cos Shulgin said it was pretty good when he did it, or cos humans have been doing it for ages before us. Not like that little combo with occasionally added potentiators mightn't be slightly harmful in its own right, is it? :roll: As drug users it's all relative at the end of the day?
 
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That was nicely written, I've never IV'd before but reading that reminded me of the obsession I had over preparing my coke for snorting.

WARNING: this may be triggering for anyone struggling with cocaine or other insufflable drugs, so don't read if you're at risk.

I know they're like complete opposites, and IVing sounds much more difficult, but I would fixate and fantasize about my process too back when I was addicted. I couldn't look at a flat surface without picturing symmetrical, neat, white lines prepared to perfection. I had a favorite old members club card I liked to use to crush it into fine powder. The crunching sound it made when I pressed down on the card sent chills down my spine, that was my favorite part. The final step was tightly rolling up a crisp, preferably 5, dollar bill and we have lift off. The actual drug was nothing in comparison.

I do wish u luck on beating that addiction tho, stay safe.
 
MissMalena said:
I know they're like complete opposites, and IVing sounds much more difficult, but I would fixate and fantasize about my process too back when I was addicted. I couldn't look at a flat surface without picturing symmetrical, neat, white lines prepared to perfection. I had a favorite old members club card I liked to use to crush it into fine powder. The crunching sound it made when I pressed down on the card sent chills down my spine, that was my favorite part. The final step was tightly rolling up a crisp, preferably 5, dollar bill and we have lift off. The actual drug was nothing in comparison.
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Then that rewarding, numbness and gasoline smell filling your nostrils... Mmm. To be honest the smell of gasoline in the air would always trigger my cocaine urges.
 
It sounds all too familiar bro.


Although I find it very easy to not use needles, I do love the ritual more than the substances/highs.
 
That is the best summary of the experience I have ever read. Bravo, sir.

I was always one of those pot smoking, pill popping teenagers with the addiction-immune attitude, rebelling against society's rules against some drugs, but still holding that needle stigma strong. I never thought I'd ever inject. I couldn't understand what would be so glorious about that life-consuming needle, to the point that many would throw their lives away following it.

Now, suffice it to say, I completely understand, and this is a great description of how the ROA, rather than just the drug, can become just as big a part of the ritual.
 
I totally relate to this thread, as I just love to inject drugs, regardless of what they are. The worst things I shot were probably massive amounts of anti histamines combined with suboxone, and a few research chemicals, most of which were a pleasant iv experience, ie MDPV, Mephedrone, but there was this one, 4-MEC, and I just feel like that could not have been healthy to shoot, it was the wierdest feeling ever. I did the shot and my eyes began to twitch rapidly and uncontrollably all over the place, as if I was viewing a stop-motion animated panorama. I was really speedy, but after about ten minutes I nodded, and just blacked out for a long time and found myself in fucking Barnes and nobles.
 
Znegative said:
I totally relate to this thread, as I just love to inject drugs, regardless of what they are. The worst things I shot were probably massive amounts of anti histamines combined with suboxone, and a few research chemicals, most of which were a pleasant iv experience, ie MDPV, Mephedrone, but there was this one, 4-MEC, and I just feel like that could not have been healthy to shoot, it was the wierdest feeling ever. I did the shot and my eyes began to twitch rapidly and uncontrollably all over the place, as if I was viewing a stop-motion animated panorama. I was really speedy, but after about ten minutes I nodded, and just blacked out for a long time and found myself in fucking Barnes and nobles.
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Hey Znegative,
Haha Barnes and nobles...hope you didn't buy their shit lol.
Thanks for your input sounds like you know your research chemicals bro. I know that feeling with the 4-MEC, sounds like a nasty-as research chemical that I tried...fake 'E' shit in New Zealand that turned a bright neon-kryptonite green in the syringe (it's in one of my threads blogs or threads... scary shit).

Take care man
DFNZ
 
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I applaud your beautifully worded story regarding something I agree with you on as a mostly intensely taboo subject, something I consider a very romantic affair.
 
i 've been using heroin for 15/6 years and crack & Heroin for 10 intravenously & ithas left me with no surface veins at all .
I've been hospitalised several times due to injection complications

I starting using my Femoral vein in my groin about 7 years ago after all the others had disapeared this has led to Deep Vein Thrombosis 3 times and all sorts of nasty stuff.

I can't see any off this romantic shit you speak of .
For me it was is all about getting the drugs in me as quickly as possible n getting the most effect.

Romantic no desperate yeah
 
brimz said:
i 've been using heroin for 15/6 years and crack & Heroin for 10 intravenously & ithas left me with no surface veins at all .
I've been hospitalised several times due to injection complications

I starting using my Femoral vein in my groin about 7 years ago after all the others had disapeared this has led to Deep Vein Thrombosis 3 times and all sorts of nasty stuff.

I can't see any off this romantic shit you speak of .
For me it was is all about getting the drugs in me as quickly as possible n getting the most effect.

Romantic no desperate yeah
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brimz seems like you've been through the ringer and sounds like your lucky to still be around to tell your story :)

That's my point exactly... you loved injecting drugs and the rush so much it fucked up all your veins and then some.

This refers to drug and needle use:
It starts out like a love affair/relationship in the first 3-6 month honeymoon period like...
"I loved you from the moment we were introduced, where had you been hiding all my life sexy 'needle-rush' I wanna spend every second with you all to myself. I love you more than my partner, kids, parents, family, friends, job, and life itself and trust you with my life as I know you would never hurt or harm me! If you don't believe me I will prove it! When we're together it's absolute magic we're so happy it's bliss, everybody else is so envious and jealous of us"

In the middle and rock-bottom stages of addiction it's like...
"I hate your guts 'needle-rush'! You trick me and play mind games and are ruining my life you don't love or care for me at all. I pay for your company like a prostitute and you use and abuse me 'needle-rush'! Even though I know this now I still love you and can't leave you or walk away from you because I crave you when your not here. I'm yours forever 'needle-rush' and you will come first till the day I die"

A bit dramatic but sums up how it is for me :(
 
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