Lysergamides [Combo Thread] LSD & MDMA: the Candyflip

[Tranced]

Right then you candy-flipping oracles, lets have some of your advice ...

I've used MDMA for years but have never tried Acid.

I now have in my possesion, a strong tab and 2 Lego pills and am thinking of combining the lot in a chilled evening at home with friends. (Everyone will be on MDMA and maybe a few other things floating around)

So, is candy-flipping any good? ... What should I take first? ... What timings between ... Or is it best to keep the 2 drugs seperate? ... etc etc

Any advise welcome.

Basically, it's the best thing ever.

Do the acid, then smash the MDMA at the 4 hour point. To do it properly, you need to do the type of acid dose that humbles you. What I mean by this is not that you need to be humbled as such, but it has to be that type of very mental and very visual acid trip.

Doing the acid and mdma so that the peaks are stacked (close together, or MDMA first etc), basically completely ruins you and it is very trippy and lasts a very long time.

Doing the MDMA when you're coming off a strong acid peak, causes an absolutely perfect synergy and is like a lesson in the purist of hedonism. This is what you want to aim for.

 

[whitedove]

I've had the worst night of my life and some of the best candyflipping. done it both ways but normally MDMA first, as I like to be a bit spangled so I forget that I've taken the acid and don't wait to start tripping. be warned though, some people seem to believe that taking mandy means you will definitely have a good trip and it certainly doesn't - just as if you take acid on its own you won't.

in fact i've never taken acid without MDMA haha.

Glad I read this because I would have thought once tripping with MDMA, all would be OK. My acid days are over and I'm pretty sure it will stay that way!

 

[Super Ted]

Champion, cheers guys. ...

It seems that most advice is pointing to taking the Acid first, coming down off the peak and then dropping a Lego.

Is there anything you can do to make sure the trip doesnt go wayward or to pull it back if it does?

The environment, people, music will all be fine ... Nothing there that should create a bad trip, only whats in my head I guess.

 

[whitedove]

If you're happy in your head with no baggage in it then you'll be grand! I'd pop the MDMA when I realise I'm up on the trip if I was doing it. IF things go wrong, I'd say a change of surroundings like getting out of the house to a nice outdoor area like the beach or fields would be good. Sounds like all will be great for ya though!

 

[headfuck123]

i recommend being with another person who is tripping. even if they are all close friends, it can be kind of awkward at times if there is no one on the same wavelength as you!

 

[Tranced]

Yeah, well, like I say, if the acid is strong, and very mental/visual/puts you on your arse, take it at the 4 hour point after taking the acid. Make sure you set a reminder in your phone because if you're at the right level off the acid, time is going to just be the most ridiculous of concepts.

Otherwise, if it's just a moderate/mild trip, you might want to take it earlier by an hour or so, as you will come off the peak earlier.

I agree about maybe being around people who are on the same level. You're going to be levels above your spangled MDMA mates - depends on the type of person you are really though. I strictly don't trip unless I'm with a few people that I completely like/trust, and they're on the same thing I am. I know many people who aren't as fussed about this though.

As far as pulling you back if it goes wrong, I recommend a benzo. Some valium/xanax will take the edge right off, and shouldn't reduce the effects of the trip at all.

What type of acid tab is it?

 

[xtcnation]

i really really want to try this combo, its on my to do list! just need to find myself some acid again. i just know it will be great

 

[Tranced]

I fucking love it. In fact, I'm completely obsessed with it.

It literally is my favourite thing, ever.

 

[SpecialK_]

i recommend being with another person who is tripping. even if they are all close friends, it can be kind of awkward at times if there is no one on the same wavelength as you!

I STRESS this. I remember my first few acid trips being around people who hadn't taken acid, they just don't know what the craic is and sometimes when you're in your earlier tripping days they don't realize that what they are doing is actually a complete head fry. It's much better if you've somewhere there to hit the giggles with and 'telepathically' click with.

As for the candyflip, I recommend taking acid first on it's own. MDMA takes away some of the headspace and makes you drift a lot more. Do not dose high, a candy flip will go much better if you dose 100ug of acid then 125mg of MDMA rather than 200ug of acid and then 200mg of MDMA. I know this from experience, the paranoia will be like no other, people told me this and I didn't heed the warning as I was experienced with both so seriously consider it before dosing. I was quite lucky in the sense I didn't have a bad trip, but it's ended horrifically for people I know.

 

[monstanoodle]

I'm going to move this over from....

EADD --- (to) ---> BDD...

As that's where combo-questions belong

 

[Tripman]

I'm actually going to shift this to PD. As BDD doesn't deal with MDMA or LSD.

 

[Tranced]

As for the candyflip, I recommend taking acid first on it's own. MDMA takes away some of the headspace and makes you drift a lot more. Do not dose high, a candy flip will go much better if you dose 100ug of acid then 125mg of MDMA rather than 200ug of acid and then 200mg of MDMA. I know this from experience, the paranoia will be like no other, people told me this and I didn't heed the warning as I was experienced with both so seriously consider it before dosing. I was quite lucky in the sense I didn't have a bad trip, but it's ended horrifically for people I know.

That is nowhere near enough acid to do a candyflip properly, IMO. Agreed on the MDMA though, just do a moderate dose. I think that 125mg was best for me, or it might have been 166mg.

I'm assuming that when it went wrong, you didn't wait until the 4 hour point? In my experience, it's only intense when the peaks are too close together. The bit when you're given your ego back, that's when you do the MDMA.

 

[TangerinO]

^ Completely agree. I would go by Trances method. I recommend at least 150ug of acid and honestly you don't even need that much MDMA. 100mg is more than sufficient, but then again I'm a much bigger fan of LSD than MDMA, MD being my special treat three of four times a year.

There's a picture of me online the day after I first tried this experience. I was on no sleep at like 10am and I swear to god I have never been more at peace, and you can see it in my eyes.

 

[acidclouds]

Come on guys, seriously. 100ug is nowhere near enough for a candyflip for someone who has never even tried acid before? 100ug LSD + 100mg mdma would be a very strong first trip.

As people have said start with the acid then after you peak have the mdma if you're ready for it to get hectic again and with the knowledge that adding mdma to lsd does not guarantee a good trip, it only guarantees a more intense trip

 

[Aetherius Rimor]

In the past, I've always done both at the same time.

However the next time I have the opportunity, it will be drop acid then 1.5 hours in, take the mdma. That way the peaks will coincide.

I'll be on my ass I'm sure, usually end up that way anyways when I try this combo.

 

[PotLuck]

How strong in terms of microgram is your lsd? and your pills how much mdma do they contain?
I'll do some research and combine it with my own experience to give you the best dosage and advice.

After my math exam I'll send it

im still a noob when it comes to lsd which i am sorry for but I have no idea how to check how much micrograms of lsd are in the tab without just asking my connec. I could ask him but I havent know him for that long and I find that connecs have a tendency to hype up and fabricate details about the stuff they are selling. If you can tell me how to check the micrograms i can get back to you asap.

I could give you more info on the pills tho. All the pill reports have reported it as MDXX low so Im guessing the dosage of MDMA is around 70mg. A report by an experienced roller said that it would take 1.5-2 of these pills to feel like an og pokeball.

 

[Nephtys]

You better take a half tab of lsd. I understand the set/setting is a public event? In publice you don't want an overwhelming lsd dose, half a tab seems a sweet dose.
If your pills contain around 70mg, take max 1.5 pill. With candyflipping the dosage of both lsd/mdma should be a little bit lower than both apart.
So:
T+0: half a tab of lsd
T+4: 1.5pill

Respect this timing and dosage for your first time, most canyflip trainwrecks happen when they don't respect the timing/dose to high.

I like candyflipping all around better than any other drug (or drug combination) because in many ways it is very close to being sober as far as your mental state, but it allows you to access all the really excellent effects of acid (music sounds great, sense of profoundness, insightfulness) and E (poise, confidence, self-love and love for others) without the downsides (the "confusion" and scariness of acid, the running-around-hugging-everyone effect of E).

The candyflip moment, as I think of it, is about half an hour after you take your E. The acid confusion seems to lift off of you like a heavy fog suddenly dissipating. The room suddenly seems more open (this is very dramatic if you're someplace with a high ceiling). You are suddenly instilled with a sense wonder and awe at the amazing things our world has to offer, a feeling that you have power over your own destiny, and a sense of purpose to do the things that are important to you. And there is an incredible feeling that something profound and important is about to happen.

Watching someone who is in the midst of a successful candyflip is pretty cool, too. Their entire demeanor gains a perfect confidence, without the slightest hint of arrogance. Their skin seems to glow. The eyes are probably the most dramatic: they grow wide and bright, like those of a child, but wiser.

Just remember to take the E exactly four hours after the lsd!!!!!

Have fun and let me know how it went

 

[Jesusgreen]

Merged

 

[Jesusgreen]

As Never said there's already a big thread for candyflipping, and we like to keep all the questions and responses there so they're easier for people to find answers in future (plus, if you look at the thread, your questions have been answered several times already! :D)

Just giving you the heads up that me or another mod will merge this with the candyflipping thread soon, but you have a chance to reply first and acknowledge this

 

[Topmid]

My first acid trip was a candyflip. I took one hit of acid at about 12:45AM and smoked a g blunt right after. It took us like 15-20 mins to smoke the blunt and I felt more high than usual afterwards so I suspect the weed helped me come up faster...idk. Then at 3:30AM I popped a molly capsule and in 20-30 mins, I was hit with a tsunami of euphoria while standing in line for a nightclub. I remember telling my friend how I had honestly never felt better in my entire life. Everything was just perfect and I had extreme clarity, but I knew I was still fucked up. I had an amazing night and felt like I timed and dosed properly. I would like to try this again with a higher dose of acid.