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Lysergamides [Combo Thread] LSD & MDMA: the Candyflip

Which order do you do them in for ultimate win?

  • I take the LSD first

    Votes: 245 75.2%
  • I take the MDMA first

    Votes: 40 12.3%
  • I take them together

    Votes: 25 7.7%
  • Other - please post details

    Votes: 16 4.9%

  • Total voters
    326
some dankass acid and .5 of pure mdma, not sure exact dose on acid. is taking the x 4hours after dropping acid necessary? seems rather long to me. and for my friend i think ill split him up his .25 dose into 2 drops.

he says hes ready, and i believe him. prolly most excited ive ever seen someone, if not i got my rx kpins with me


Well, if you take your E early (like say, after 3 hours) your acid peak won't be done yet, and the drugs end up sort of fighting for control of your brain. This is not a very fun sensation; you end up feeling lethargic and sort of light-headed. You may come out of it after an hour or two, but you will have missed the "candyflip" and will be just left feeling like you took a lot of drugs, and sometimes slightly spacey depending on the person. (Editor's Note: Not everyone agrees about this; one person sent a comment saying that they don't get much effect doing it this way, but they have a "brilliant" time when they take a low dose of MDMA about 45 minutes before ingesting LSD.)

If you take the E late (say, after 5 hours) you'll get a similar effect as taking your E too early, but probably not as strong. After 45 minutes or so it will clear up and you'll find that you're just rolling from the E, and it's not much like you took two drugs at all, more that you just took one after the other.

Another important thing is dosage. Taking less acid causes it to come on more slowly, and as a result taking your E at the four hour mark may actually be too early. Taking a lot of acid works great as long as you can handle it but in this case you may want to take your E slightly earlier, say at T+3:45. Generally I just recommend a normal dose, 3 hits of standard blotter paper, but again there's nothing wrong with more as long as you can handle it.
 
250mg is a lot normally, but for someone who has no experienced this before I would say it is far too much. I recommend no more than 120mg.

Even on its own, 120mg is plenty first time, and will help preserve the brain for future enjoyment.
 
i still think the lsd and mdma potentiate each other a lot more than considered here. to go for more than 1, maaaaybe 2 blotters of acid and more than 100-120mf of mdma for your first candyflip is asking for trouble.
vomiting in public spaces is not a fun thing to do and can put the trip on a bad trail.

in the end each person has to take decisions for himself. however, i still recommend way less than 250mg mdma, for the both of you. its easy to get excited about doing drugs, but trust me, sometimes less is more with these things.
set and setting goes a looong way, and the mindset shouldnt be " lets do the most drugs we can and get fucked up " but " lets make the best of this night "...
 
As good as candyflipping is, I personally wouldn't take a new drug for the first time out in public, even less two new drugs.

Acid can be a very disorientating drug and being surrounded by strangers who all have the capability of calling the police/security to come and "help" you isn't something I'd be comfortable putting a friend through.
 
Don't forget, 120mg will be plenty, accounting for purity that's probably about 150mg. Don't have him overdo it and have a horrible comedown or always feel the need to have huge amounts in the future.
 
It's Much safer to assume he has a very high sensitivity and go from there. I don't think its 'right' to bring somebody into the drug world at full-pace, having them keep up with you...no way.

I am waaaay more sensotove than most friends...it would've been high unnecessary and far too intense for me to start with a high dose of anything. Much less a high dose of two different things...! Kinda has bad Idea written all over it...I see that you opted for Mdma alone, which is far better than with acid lol. Honestly, regardless of ones own view on the perfect 'intensity level' of an exp, it seems like planting the seeds of burn out kids to introduce somebody to high doses. Then they could be unimpresed with medium-doses and if they become drawn towards psychonauticism they'd likely find themselves neck-deep in some shit that they never practiced for. Lol, the stairwell is te way to go....take care of your friends...! :-) there's always another day to take it up a notch, there's never anther day to change the past.
 
How to candyflip properly?

Gonna be hitting up an event this weekend and i wanna try candyflipping for the first time. What i wanna know is timing, when i should drop the acid and the pill, and dosage. only dropped acid two times before this so im still not totally comfortable frying but im an experienced roller so theres no anxiety about rolling.

my original plan was to double drop my pills and take half a tab. then when im coming down from the peak from my pills take another pill and the second half of the tab. but after searching around a bit it seems like dropping the tab first and then dropping my pills an hour in would be better.

~YOU CAN SKIP READING THIS PART. IM ONLY POSTING THIS PART UP FOR THOSE WHO WANT MORE INFO~
Im still not totally comfortable frying so im not sure about the dosage i should be taking. my first time frying it was at a massive and i dropped a whole tab. i found the experience to be mostly overwhelming. the second time i dropped a tab i was just chilling at my friends house (it was their first time frying). we only dropped half tabs and we dropped at around 10pm and i started really peaking at like 4 in the morning. since then i have found that the lower the dosage the longer it takes to peak. anyway i found that experience to be kinda uncomfortable cause it was getting late and i just wanted to get some sleep lol. i also had some negative thoughts which led to some bad trips the reason being i smoked some weed before the peak and since then i learned this is a bad thing to do on psychedelics. :P

my original plan was to double drop my pills and take half a tab. that way i can already be in that positive mindset by the time i start feeling the acid. it also seems like it would be better if e was the more dominant drug over the acid. then when im coming down from the peak from my pills i would take another pill and the second half of the tab. but after searching around a bit it seems like dropping the tab first and then dropping my pills an hour in would be better.

EDIT: oh and ima probably be hotboxing and maybe (but most likely not) drinking a little on the way to the event. should i take that into consideration when candyflipping? also ill probably be smoking some weed after the event too to help me get some sleep.
 
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Normally one should never try to combine two drugs, especially two as powerful as acid and E. Candyflipping doesn't just refer to the combination of the two; it refer to using them in a staggered method that produces an entirely unique effect that is unlike either of the drugs by themselves. So first of all, never take acid and E at the same time, or even within an hour or two of each other! This will produce a sort of drunken intoxication which you might find fun (or you might find unpleasant, like me), but in either case it does not qualify as candyflipping.

Candyflipping requires that the relative "peak" times of the two drugs (from the 1hr mark to the 3hr mark with E, and from the 1hr mark to the 4h mark with acid) do not overlap. You can theoretically do it in either order, but I (and friends of mine) have always done it with acid first, E later. The most important thing to know, that I have deduced by careful (and sometimes unpleasant) experimentation:

Take your E exactly four (4) hours after taking your acid!

Why is this so important?

Well, if you take your E early (like say, after 3 hours) your acid peak won't be done yet, and the drugs end up sort of fighting for control of your brain. This is not a very fun sensation; you end up feeling lethargic and sort of light-headed. You may come out of it after an hour or two, but you will have missed the "candyflip" and will be just left feeling like you took a lot of drugs, and sometimes slightly spacey depending on the person. (Editor's Note: Not everyone agrees about this; one person sent a comment saying that they don't get much effect doing it this way, but they have a "brilliant" time when they take a low dose of MDMA about 45 minutes before ingesting LSD.)

If you take the E late (say, after 5 hours) you'll get a similar effect as taking your E too early, but probably not as strong. After 45 minutes or so it will clear up and you'll find that you're just rolling from the E, and it's not much like you took two drugs at all, more that you just took one after the other.

Another important thing is dosage. Taking less acid causes it to come on more slowly, and as a result taking your E at the four hour mark may actually be too early. Taking a lot of acid works great as long as you can handle it but in this case you may want to take your E slightly earlier, say at T+3:45. Generally I just recommend a normal dose, 3 hits of standard blotter paper, but again there's nothing wrong with more as long as you can handle it.

With E, you probably want to take a minimal dosage, or else it will just overpower the acid and you'll be rolling (not a bad thing, but you'll miss out on the candyflip). If you have a batch of pills and you normally take 1.5 pills to roll, then probably try either 1.5 or 1 pill. In a nutshell, it's better to err slightly on the side of a low dose than on the side of high.

You've only dropped acid twice, I think you should trip at least 5 times on acid. With candyflipping things get a intense, it is the most beautiful thing ever, but the experience is pretty hard/intense. Get more comfortable with acid first...
 
lil neph covered the basics....

i will say that, you will have a fucking blast bro!
it's a whole new experience when you combine the two substances.
report back after the festival!
have a great time and be safe
 
Thanks for the info guys I really appreciate it. :)

so is halving the tabs a good idea? it sounds like it might just mess up the timing for me since smaller dosages=longer wait time. but at the same time i dont want a high that overwhelms me and just floors me for a big part of the night.

But yeah I was thinking of dropping the tab while Im in line to get in then dropping one of my pills once Im inside. Then 4 hours later double drop the rest of my pills. I have green mac pokes which judging from the pill reports have low dosages of mdma. so i can drop that first pill and enjoy a chill roll while coming up from the tab and then double dropping towards the end of the acid peak to really get the candyflip experience. only problem is is that first pill might just waste my serotonin since redosing on e doesnt give you a better roll.

what do you guys think?

You've only dropped acid twice, I think you should trip at least 5 times on acid. With candyflipping things get a intense, it is the most beautiful thing ever, but the experience is pretty hard/intense. Get more comfortable with acid first...
Thanks for the advice and I appreciate the concern but my friends and i are already set on and looking forward to candyflipping at this event. Thats why while we might be being reckless Im trying to keep as much harm-reduction in mind as possible.

EDIT: oh and ima probably be hotboxing and maybe (but most likely not) drinking a little on the way to the event. should i take that into consideration when candyflipping? also ill probably be smoking some weed after the event too to help me get some sleep.
 
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How strong in terms of microgram is your lsd? and your pills how much mdma do they contain?
I'll do some research and combine it with my own experience to give you the best dosage and advice.

After my math exam I'll send it ;)
 
to be honest theres some simple rules and you will most likely have an amazing time.

i would reccomend dropping the acid first, then dropping the Es a couple hours into the trip. the Es will most likely make your visuals intensify as well as giving you that euphoric mdma feeling. and smoking/drinking is absolutely fine too.
 
I disagree that it makes the experience more intense. I found that combining a powerful blotter with a point or so of quality crystal (Roughly 3 or 4 hours later) just made the visuals ease off and the MDMA to some extent took over a bit. Still tripping but considering before I dropped the E I could barely properly make out my surroundings from how much I was hallucinating, not to mention my depth perception was totally gone, I'd say it made the experience more manageable.
However if you took speed with it, fuck yeah I can imagine that sending things into a pretty intense zone.

My advice take some good crystal with it and don't just dunk some shitty speed bombs, and if you are doing pills make sure they are good quality MD.

That's my 2 cents anyway.
 
Lsd + mdma

Right then you candy-flipping oracles, lets have some of your advice ...

I've used MDMA for years but have never tried Acid.

I now have in my possesion, a strong tab and 2 Lego pills and am thinking of combining the lot in a chilled evening at home with friends. (Everyone will be on MDMA and maybe a few other things floating around)

So, is candy-flipping any good? ... What should I take first? ... What timings between ... Or is it best to keep the 2 drugs seperate? ... etc etc

Any advise welcome.
 
I don't think you'll ever find any real consensus on what to take first as loads of people have different ideas, but I personally don't like coming down off MDMA while tripping, so I tend to dose it after the acid has peaked. YMMV etc.

It's a fantastic combo and a really lovely experience. I don't think I've ever spoken to somebody who didn't agree. If it's your first time with acid you might be best just sticking to that though, or see how you feel once you've peaked. Having friends around will definitely be a bonus.

Enjoy. :)
 
I've had the worst night of my life and some of the best candyflipping. done it both ways but normally MDMA first, as I like to be a bit spangled so I forget that I've taken the acid and don't wait to start tripping. be warned though, some people seem to believe that taking mandy means you will definitely have a good trip and it certainly doesn't - just as if you take acid on its own you won't.

in fact i've never taken acid without MDMA haha.
 
i like taking a small dose of mdma first then acid so that my trip starts with a posative uplifting feeling. and then i would top up with mdma if i feel the need. but i would advise you to start with the acid first and see how you get on.
 
i deffo agree with sam if u havent taken sid before make sure your happy with your friends and surroundings before you drop mate.. be happy :)
 
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