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Heroin Social: Version 5

Sepher said:
Well one of us has got to be wrong, but I'm not sure it's me? You are not burning Heroin. You are vaporising it. That is the whole point of the foil: it allows you to use controlled, indirect heat so as to not burn it. You wanted citations. Will this do:

http://www.ccbh.nl/publicaties/Klous_et_al_Pharmaceutical_heroin_for_inhalation.pdf

The experiment is designed to mimic what happens when H is heated on foil and inhaled through a (cold) tube. A tablet of base heroin was indirectly heated in a crucible to 300 degrees C, the vapour produced being collected in a condenser. The condenser was then washed out and the residue tested. It was found to consist almost entirely of diamorphine base in exactly the same form as that started out with, with a little 6-acetylmorphine ( < 6% ). 85.6% of the diamorphine base started out with was recovered unchanged, either from the condenser or from the non-volatilised residue left in the crucible.

Now where's my fucking Mars bar? :P
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Sorry for winding you up - and well done for the research, I have tried but get distracted and lose the interest. Interesting about 6mam - mexican tar has a very high level of this in fact so high its not true heroin - but gets you royaly fucked stronger than 3mam found in afghani.

Mars bar in the post
 
Good to see you are smoking it on foil Brimz and not banging it up considering your health problems at the moment.
 
Like Dark in The park n some of you said i also think that all this "drought over " n wshat drought is bullshit:)

When i can go out n get stuff like what i have atm , off a number of dif connects and the rest of the country is the same then i'll have "The drought is over "

This stuff was pretty much odourless btw as that's been a topic of recent , i wasn't sweating it though as this is the only 100% garunteeed high quality score i have .
 
Been fantasising big time about a gear holiday...was thinking Burma, then I changed my mind and started thinking Columbia-a line of Columbian H#4 up one nostril and a line of pure Bolivian marching powder up t'other!! That'd be some speedball huh? Course u could have a dig in each of ur arms simultaneously if you preferred! Though it might be the last dig u ever had. Man it'd be nice to feel like Gods own son for a few weeks I prolly coulda afforded it for the amount of shit I have bought over the last 14 or so months. Not that I've scored loads of bash, but I've prolly bought 4 separate Q's of what I consider to be shit, over this time. Damn :X
 
Still no change in Dublin, its as if this new good looking weak gear has become normal!!! All dealers (bar one) are back selling, prices are as they were before drought. Everyone saying the drought is over in Dublin, BUT ITS NOT!!! :!

I have been using since after i went to the clinic on Friday, but i'll never ever get used to this new gear! I'm gonna score again to-night but i keep asking myself why bother? Why waste more money? I already spent €200 since Friday, it'll be another €100 to-night & all for what? But i still enjoy the whole getting foil & tooter ready & sitting down with a few bags, its just went i smoke the first line that i realize what a waste of time & money it all is!

The thing about the gear we are getting is that it does hold you without methadone, & i LOVE giving my body a few days break from taking methadone. Especially with the heroin been so weak it feels much healthier to take this heroin then to take my methadone! That might sound bizarre but its true, in the last 3 days that i haven't taken methadone its as if my body has woken up from a groggy sleep, my body is kick started & it has started working again! The heroin seems much weaker the the methadone, so my body isn't as drugged & slow. So that is probably why i'm scoring at the moment!

I still really miss the proper gear, i hope it comes back soon! But i also hope that i don't get carried away & start using all day every day, week in week out if/when it does come back! Although something tells me that things are gonna stay the way they are in Dublin for a while yet! :(
 
Cornishman said:
Even the 'good stuff' down here is mediocre at best.

It's an absolute joke.
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with a shit punchline , it hasn't had me laughing when i've had mediocre stuff .
I suppose you either laugh or cry !

I've just had a mate come round with a 20 n it's got me out of my gouch for a wee while , i'm confident that i can chuck another .2 on after a nice meal n i'll be back in the nod.

The gear wasn't tottaly odourless btw just not the standard smell we associate with good stuff.
 
PapaverSom said:
Been fantasising big time about a gear holiday...was thinking Burma, then I changed my mind and started thinking Columbia-a line of Columbian H#4 up one nostril and a line of pure Bolivian marching powder up t'other!! That'd be some speedball huh? Course u could have a dig in each of ur arms simultaneously if you preferred! Though it might be the last dig u ever had. Man it'd be nice to feel like Gods own son for a few weeks I prolly coulda afforded it for the amount of shit I have bought over the last 14 or so months. Not that I've scored loads of bash, but I've prolly bought 4 separate Q's of what I consider to be shit, over this time. Damn :X
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Yeah your situation is odd cos you have to go for a q n well theirs many unique factors.
I saw the President of the USA from the mid 90s today he was cool ,cos of my new location i see him everyday cos of my proximity to Sainsburys .


Yeah i see as in say hello n shoot the shit btw
 
brimz said:
Yeah your situation is odd cos you have to go for a q n well theirs many unique factors.
I saw the President of the USA from the mid 90s today he was cool ,cos of my new location i see him everyday cos of my proximity to Sainsburys .


Yeah i see as in say hello n shoot the shit btw
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Yeah I get Q's and also dont have time to fuck about, like if I did I could buy a point 2 first or summit n go back if its good, but then fuck me its a 6 hour round trip know what I mean,to drive down there for a sample, that turnss out to be shit, then goin home empty handed would be proper depressing. But better than getting burnt tho.

Im really determined not to buy shit again...Im really wanting some new connects, I mean I'd happily buy an 8th in b ags with no reduction, if it was proper pukka gear.

Might be comin down for a few days towardsd the end of the month, as my boss is goin on holiday so I'll have a few days to spare-be good to say hello. Hows ur leg now pal, better I hope? Say hello to the pres for I innit.

U listening to MC Serch mate? Or Nas? Just wondering cos of ur location phrase, and I recognised that lyric, I think it was MC serch anyway? Peace mr Brimz happy nodding
 
Hey up, would there be any point in me doing Oxy's? (On 80mls green daily), would they have a nice effect if I took 24 hours after last dose of meth? Or would it be pointless cos of the meth blocking them completely??
 
PapaverSom said:
Hey up, would there be any point in me doing Oxy's? (On 80mls green daily), would they have a nice effect if I took 24 hours after last dose of meth? Or would it be pointless cos of the meth blocking them completely??
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You would want to giv ethe green a birth for as long as you can b4 doing oxy , i said in another thread that i need 80mg oxy ir n no juice that day , but i'm only on 40 till next week so with 80ml of it i wouyld say pointless untill maybe 48hours since yer last dose ,

fuk that was hard , only on e eye will work :) tis a nice bonus todays kit.
 
wcote said:
Use this as a sorta V V rough guide.

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi

Even without that as a Guide I cant see an oxy 80 blowing you away..... but nice effect.... i guess so. They cost £ as well. Not worth it.

Its ALL about IV fentanyl %)
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no its not at all sorry not 4 me anyway , i done fent buccaly , i.v & smoked the mylan gel n think its over rated n far to dangerous to justify the risk. fent ods are happening all the time .
Its opiod crack , short acting n oh i'm to gouched but you get the jist

Not that i would turn down a patch but its pony when compared with the old skoool Dicanol n Methadone amps pink shot , although i can on;y think of a few folk on here who have been their .
 
Thanx guys. And would the same rule also apply to Morphine Sulphate 16mg tablets (the injectable ones)...ie would I get an effect off of snorting one or more of these, if I left the meth for 24 hours?
 
I've always wanted to try Oxy, but I just dont have any connections. I could risk my arse forging a script, but I really dont want to be doing that anymore after getting caught the last time. I'd probably get away with it with valium, but with opiates...its doubtful, judging by the looks I used to get from collecting benzos.

Thanks to everyone who PM'd me, I have some replies I'll get back to in a bit as feeling a bit rough. Forgot to sign on the fucking welfare this month so my money's delayed until thursday, but fortunately I had 70 stashed off as I owe out 100 this evening - but as soon as I pay that off I can score something on lay. I had to ask my father for a lend of the other 25...

I: Can you lend me 25 till thursday?
Father: Is this for gear?
I: What??! I just owe out a few quid man, less of the accusations like...you're making me uncomfortable.

Cant lie anymore - but I can certainly avoid the truth like a cunt. Class at that, like. I really, really hope my phone rings soon.
 
dying for a taste of gear lately, had some really nice stuff which was almost grey a couple of months ago, ran nicely on the foil and a decent gouch from a bag
 
blondin said:
Sorry for winding you up - and well done for the research, I have tried but get distracted and lose the interest. Interesting about 6mam - mexican tar has a very high level of this in fact so high its not true heroin - but gets you royaly fucked stronger than 3mam found in afghani.

Mars bar in the post
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Naaaaah, didn't wind me up. Only took two minutes to get the keywords combo right and lo and behold Googling 'heroin base vapourisation point' brings up the study about 9 links down on page one on my machine. It's not difficult to do, but I think it was worth the few minutes invested cos kinda important on here to me that the stuff I put up is accurate. And I got a Mars bar out of it. ;)

As it goes learnt something I didn't know re: the 6-MAM. It being a product of heating makes sense cos your body does similar chemical conversions once it's got hold of it. Only done tar once, back in the days before I had a habit, but understand that having 6-MAM in there as a starting ingredient means the body doesn't have to go through the diamorphine > 6-MAM conversion. It's a very rapid one anyways, normally measured in minutes, but I do wonder if that makes it hit a bit harder more quickly ? We certainly rated the tar we got compared to lots of the other gear we had floating about at the time. Never got to test how long lasting it was once I had a tolerance / habit to see if it'd sped up the rest of the metabolisation noticeably?

More properly back on topic, how's everyone coping with the drought? Seems to be have been a bloody long one according to what I read on here?
 
PapaverSom said:
Thanx guys. And would the same rule also apply to Morphine Sulphate 16mg tablets (the injectable ones)...ie would I get an effect off of snorting one or more of these, if I left the meth for 24 hours?
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oh it's Big L btw not MC serch , but glad you said it coas i haven't listened to him 4 ages.


But It was a sampled of a Serch produced track thats it i think

I've always wanted to try Oxy, but I just dont have any connections. I could risk my arse forging a script
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Please don't mate
you'll get caught straight away these days , that was a late 60's 70s thing .

I changed a script once n got in trouble to say the least.

It was the day b4 my Dads funeral n i needed some extra diaz n the nurse said i could have 14 10s which was cool cos i w as getting 8 a day .
When i got the script it was 14 10s on daily pick up , i mean wtf i would of rather had nothing .
Being in a state cos of the grief n anxiety about doing a speech at the funeral i changed thevsscript to 14 pick up in one go (i was seriously not thinking right n in a stae )

Got caught n was discharged from the dsp within 2 hours . T

They really showed sympathy for my situation don't ya think:|

Turned out best thing in the end cos thats how i ended up getting with my present GP who is top notch.

At the time it was hell .
 
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re oxy's - i get them time to time but never really see the reason people go for them if you have to buy them they are ridiculously expensive i use to shot 1/2 or snort to get a resonable buzz but no where near as good as gear if they wernt freebies i wouldnt bother. Fent patches (the nicotene like ones) are great to chew but like one poster said opiod crack you can be nodding take out the patch and your straight within minutes.
@brimz the trip down memory lane for dikes .... my fave pill to shoot then trying to recreate with 'done and cyclazine them were the days ...peaches, jacks...speed balls lost me all my veins in 18 months thats what happens when you shoot 20 times a day on a run.
 
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