F.D.A. blames D.E.A. for amphetamine shortages

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Medicines to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder are in such short supply that hundreds of patients complain daily to the Food and Drug Administration that they are unable to find a pharmacy with enough pills to fill their prescriptions.

The shortages are a result of a troubled partnership between drug manufacturers and the Drug Enforcement Administration, with companies trying to maximize their profits and drug enforcement agents trying to minimize abuse by people, many of them college students, who use the medications to get high or to stay up all night.

Caught in between are millions of children and adults who rely on the pills to help them stay focused and calm. Shortages, particularly of cheaper generics, have become so endemic that some patients say they worry almost constantly about availability.

While the Food and Drug Administration monitors the safety and supply of the drugs, which are sold both as generics and under brand names like Ritalin and Adderall, the Drug Enforcement Administration sets manufacturing quotas that are designed to control supplies and thwart abuse. Every year, the D.E.A. accepts applications from manufacturers to make the drugs, analyzes how much was sold the previous year and then allots portions of the expected demand to various companies.

How each manufacturer divides its quota among its own A.D.H.D. medicines — preparing some as high-priced brands and others as cheaper generics — is left up to the company.

Now, multiple manufacturers have announced that their medicines are in short supply. The F.D.A. has included these pills on its official shortages list, as has the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists, which tracks the problem for hospitals. And the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry has told the more than 8,000 doctors in its membership that shortages seem to be “widespread across a number of states” and are “devastating” for children.

Officials at the Food and Drug Administration say the shortages are a result of overly strict quotas set by the Drug Enforcement Administration, which, for its part, questions whether there really are shortages or whether manufacturers are simply choosing to make more of the expensive pills than the generics, creating supply and demand imbalances.

The situation has made for a rare open disagreement between two federal agencies.

“We have reached out to the D.E.A. and told them that there are shortage issues,” said Valerie Jensen, associate director of the F.D.A.’s drug shortage program. “But the quota issues are outside of our area of responsibility.”

Still, Special Agent Gary Boggs of the Drug Enforcement Administration’s Office of Diversion Control, said in an interview, “We believe there is plenty of supply.”

Some high-priced pills are indeed readily available, and D.E.A. officials said that so long as that is the case, they believe that A.D.H.D. drug supplies are adequate. Agent Boggs attributed any supply disruptions to decisions made by manufacturers.

Novartis, for instance, makes both branded and generic versions of Ritalin; Shire Pharmaceuticals does the same for Adderall XR. In both cases, the companies have ensured that supplies of branded drugs are adequate while allowing generic versions to go wanting.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/h...-attention-drugs-in-short-supply.html?_r=1&hp
 
From doing a little research a while ago, I learned that there is generally little to no difference between generics and brand name medications. The companies are obviously just looking to make money off of people's need. They are pretty evil.
 
Still, Special Agent Gary Boggs of the Drug Enforcement Administration’s Office of Diversion Control, said in an interview, “We believe there is plenty of supply.”

Some high-priced pills are indeed readily available, and D.E.A. officials said that so long as that is the case, they believe that A.D.H.D. drug supplies are adequate. Agent Boggs attributed any supply disruptions to decisions made by manufacturers.

Novartis, for instance, makes both branded and generic versions of Ritalin; Shire Pharmaceuticals does the same for Adderall XR. In both cases, the companies have ensured that supplies of branded drugs are adequate while allowing generic versions to go wanting.

This is the key to the truth right here. Pharma is maximizing their profits in light of the restrictions placed by the DEA. I'm sure someone at the DEA is getting a kickback for keeping this regulation in place so that the drug companies can push their new drugs while causing shortages of older drugs whose patents have expired.
 
Yep. Last time I filled my script I was told by the Pharm Tech no one would have them at the end of the year because of the DEA regulations, the closest HEB that had Adderall was 100-something miles away that only had 12 pills.

I was lucky enough to go to a Walgreens RIGHT after they got a shipment for almost exactly the amount I needed. I was one of the only people with Amps in this college town come finals week, and I wasn't even a damn student. Never sold any either.
 
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The is supremely great news, not the shortages, inflation and corruption, but that the FDA is actually starting to do their job more.
Now "Blackwater" needs to be contracted to work for the FDA.
 
From doing a little research a while ago, I learned that there is generally little to no difference between generics and brand name medications. The companies are obviously just looking to make money off of people's need. They are pretty evil.

Every consumer should know this basic truth.
However, due to the drug company/doctor relationship, often times the brand name meds are the ones which specifically have no inert material in them that give whomever added negative side effects.
 
From doing a little research a while ago, I learned that there is generally little to no difference between generics and brand name medications. The companies are obviously just looking to make money off of people's need. They are pretty evil.

The name brands are more expensive because they're covered by patents, and the drug companies have to pay royalties to the holders of those patents. If you want people to research new medicine, people have to be able to profit off their discoveries (unfortunately). And in order to profit off their discoveries, they need to patent them and sell them under name brands. In order to get producers to sell those name brands, the patent holders pay the producers a higher cut. So of course the producers want to sell more of the name brands. But there's more to the situation than greed.
 
Medicines to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder are in such short supply that hundreds of patients complain daily to the Food and Drug Administration that they are unable to find a pharmacy with enough pills to fill their prescriptions.

The shortages are a result of a troubled partnership between drug manufacturers and the Drug Enforcement Administration, with companies trying to maximize their profits and drug enforcement agents trying to minimize abuse by people, many of them college students, who use the medications to get high or to stay up all night.

Caught in between are millions of children and adults who rely on the pills to help them stay focused and calm. Shortages, particularly of cheaper generics, have become so endemic that some patients say they worry almost constantly about availability.

While the Food and Drug Administration monitors the safety and supply of the drugs, which are sold both as generics and under brand names like Ritalin and Adderall, the Drug Enforcement Administration sets manufacturing quotas that are designed to control supplies and thwart abuse. Every year, the D.E.A. accepts applications from manufacturers to make the drugs, analyzes how much was sold the previous year and then allots portions of the expected demand to various companies.

How each manufacturer divides its quota among its own A.D.H.D. medicines — preparing some as high-priced brands and others as cheaper generics — is left up to the company.

Now, multiple manufacturers have announced that their medicines are in short supply. The F.D.A. has included these pills on its official shortages list, as has the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists, which tracks the problem for hospitals. And the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry has told the more than 8,000 doctors in its membership that shortages seem to be “widespread across a number of states” and are “devastating” for children.

Officials at the Food and Drug Administration say the shortages are a result of overly strict quotas set by the Drug Enforcement Administration, which, for its part, questions whether there really are shortages or whether manufacturers are simply choosing to make more of the expensive pills than the generics, creating supply and demand imbalances.

The situation has made for a rare open disagreement between two federal agencies.

“We have reached out to the D.E.A. and told them that there are shortage issues,” said Valerie Jensen, associate director of the F.D.A.’s drug shortage program. “But the quota issues are outside of our area of responsibility.”

Still, Special Agent Gary Boggs of the Drug Enforcement Administration’s Office of Diversion Control, said in an interview, “We believe there is plenty of supply.”

Some high-priced pills are indeed readily available, and D.E.A. officials said that so long as that is the case, they believe that A.D.H.D. drug supplies are adequate. Agent Boggs attributed any supply disruptions to decisions made by manufacturers.

Novartis, for instance, makes both branded and generic versions of Ritalin; Shire Pharmaceuticals does the same for Adderall XR. In both cases, the companies have ensured that supplies of branded drugs are adequate while allowing generic versions to go wanting.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/h...-attention-drugs-in-short-supply.html?_r=1&hp


I love this little war. I think the DEA will continue to take a hard line and the FDA doesn't care if people are whining about not getting their meds. The Drug Companies probably want to hold back on the generics if they have the option to produce both...why would you produce the cheap one when you can get desperados to pay $300 or more to get the name brand.

for the real ad/hd patient, oh this is a pain in the keister!

What to do? I'm looking for an alternative, the last time I took Adderall I just got too amped up, and it was 20 mg. The 30's are too big for me initially, but soon I build a tolderance, and after a month or so I feel like I am killing my boday. It kind of eats you if you have been on these meds, you know. Vyvanse is too jittery then after a week, not much. Ritalin the same way.

Anyone have any ideas for something safe/natural?
 
Yep. Last time I filled my script I was told by the Pharm Tech no one would have them at the end of the year because of the DEA regulations, the closest HEB that had Adderall was 100-something miles away that only had 12 pills.

I was lucky enough to go to a Walgreens RIGHT after they got a shipment for almost exactly the amount I needed. I was one of the only people with Amps in this college town come finals week, and I wasn't even a damn student. Never sold any either.

Oh you mean those pink pieces of crap? Yes, after filling my script twice at Walgreens I said never again. They had 30 mg of these pink generic adderall that were about as effective as taking a no doze. Total crap, and I am not alone, it is all over the net apparently. Did you get these pinks?
 
I love this little war. I think the DEA will continue to take a hard line and the FDA doesn't care if people are whining about not getting their meds. The Drug Companies probably want to hold back on the generics if they have the option to produce both...why would you produce the cheap one when you can get desperados to pay $300 or more to get the name brand.

for the real ad/hd patient, oh this is a pain in the keister!

What to do? I'm looking for an alternative, the last time I took Adderall I just got too amped up, and it was 20 mg. The 30's are too big for me initially, but soon I build a tolderance, and after a month or so I feel like I am killing my boday. It kind of eats you if you have been on these meds, you know. Vyvanse is too jittery then after a week, not much. Ritalin the same way.

Anyone have any ideas for something safe/natural?

Check into legal and unscheduled nootropics, such as piracetam (with a choline bond) perhaps.
 
Oh you mean those pink pieces of crap? Yes, after filling my script twice at Walgreens I said never again. They had 30 mg of these pink generic adderall that were about as effective as taking a no doze. Total crap, and I am not alone, it is all over the net apparently. Did you get these pinks?
Pinks? Mine were orange just as my generic has always been, I get 20's IR. They felt just the same as they always do.
 
Do you guys really believe there is that many people in this country with this condition? Doctors need to stop throwing these pills at all these kids that just can't shut the fuck up and pay attention. Then there probably wouldn't be a shortage
 
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