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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 6th Dose (now you've gone and used it all up)

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I find insufflation to be more on the stimulating manic side for me with MXE, so it's plausible that it would be the worst for the heart - if it's the most stimulating.

I find oral to be the most relaxed and sedative experience, but interestingly it seems the most clear-headed. (probably because with insufflation the stimulation is too much so it just gets hectic and I'm confused)
 
Word I'm going to try oral tomorrow. I know I said I was going to take a 3 week break to prove it's not addictive. But, yeah, I'm going out to a concert with friends tomorrow and I'd rather have some MXE with my vodka so I'll admit that didn't last long. When I run out of the stash I won't buy any for a few weeks (the way I always do it)

((((ohh noo BDs addicted to MXE he didnt take 3 weeks off like he said he was gonna!!))))

<3 you guys lol ... enjoy life while you can ;)
 
I'm on about 50mg right now waiting for the full come-up to identify itself. I'm just chilling watching Weed Wars on Discovery channel. I have consumed over a bar a day of Xanex this week, and last night 20mg Opana (snorted). As well as Hydrodocodone (as I see fit) daily. Will this affect the warm opiate-like buzz I love from MXE? I didn't take any xanex yet because I want to feel the MXE headspace on its own (haven't done it on its own in a long time).

Ok it's obviously kicked in because the above paragraph took me like 10 minutes to type. I feel like I can snap in and out of focus on MXE. But is there a cross-tolerance between MXE and opiates? or even benzos? Sorry, I realize I should UTFSE, but I feel like I've read arguments for both sides.
 
It's possible there is some cross tolerance, at least to the opioid like effects, but I doubt it would make much of a difference - since the opioid effects are only really noticeable at lower/medium doses, as they're overshadowed by the dissociation at higher doses. 50mg is a pretty high dose (but probably not quite a "hole") unless you have tolerance to other NMDA antagonists like DXM, Ketamine etc already :)

Enjoy the oral dose BD. Obvious point but - make sure you take it on an empty stomach, although I can take some drugs fine on a full stomach, MXE is very hit and miss if I do, I've had times where I had to triple my dose for the same effects with a full stomach. :(
 
I've not tried oral dosing but I believe I will the next time I use it. I've been looking for ways to get more out of MXE without adding other drugs. Combos are nice but I want to continue to seek out knowledge with this one alone for the time being.
 
It's very smooth. Just realise it's long lasting. When I hole with oral I feel like I'm on a low dose of MXE for up to 24 hours, even some difficulty walking etc. With sublingual and nasal the after effects are a lot shorter, despite the experiences being almost just as long themselves.

I wonder why that is, different metabolites perhaps?
 
^Wow, that long? Interesting. Does anyone else notice a profound difference in the duration of oral dosing vs. any other ROA? If so, oral dosing, and the prospect of unique metabolism, has become compelling to me. I've never bothered with anything but IM or rectal, as they are for the most part indistinguishable, and, as reported by others, the most potent ROAs minus IV. All this talk of qualitative differences via other ROAs compels me to try them, though. To be honest, however, rectal and IM have been pretty variable in subjective effects within themselves.

I'll agree with bluedolphin's assessment of the nitrous like effects rectally. MXE is certainly the most nitrous like dissociative I've used that isn't nitrous (during the onset, esp.), and rectal is much more convenient than IM, so I use it the most. Still, in my experience the ROA gives highly variable experiences. If you've only tried it once-to-five times I'd guess you're not giving it its due. Like I've indicated before, MXE's effects orbit the ego, and its experience is as variable as our egos are. I doubt a single ROA (in this case rectal) would, by virtue of its somewhat unique metabolism, consistently narrow the range of qualitative effects to "shitty nitrous" effects all on its own.
 
I've only used it orally or via insufflation, but IME oral is somewhat qualitatively "deeper," less manic, and less stimulating. I get some pretty nitrous-esqe stuff towards the end of insufflated experiences, haven't noticed it as much on the come up.
 
I've heard oral has low bio available is this true? Do you need more alot more this route?
 
psood0nym said:
^Wow, that long? Interesting. Does anyone else notice a profound difference in the duration of oral dosing vs. any other ROA? If so, oral dosing, and the prospect of unique metabolism, has become compelling to me. I've never bothered with anything but IM or rectal, as they are for the most part indistinguishable, and, as reported by others, the most potent ROAs minus IV. All this talk of qualitative differences via other ROAs compels me to try them, though. To be honest, however, rectal and IM have been pretty variable in subjective effects within themselves.
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Oh yeah, I was going to come in earlier since oral is my favorite ROA by far. What people are saying is totally true. It lacks what is IMO a frequency like buzz when taken orally that sub/insuff seems to provide though sub causes this effect strongest in me. I find that not only dose oral always last atleast 7 hours if you've done a solid dose but its much more lucid without the buzz or background noise and it seems easier to think and process things/I suppose go deeper than with other ROA's. The increased duration is enough for me because from what I can pretty clearly remember sub dosing only lasted a solid 5 hours max and it took less MXE but orally just has to many advantages for me. I mean besides its so easy because I just swallow a capsule and don't have to hold anything in my mouth and all that. I forgot to mention that I really enjoy the come up from oral admin as well, its such a smooth transition into dissociation and stimulation. Oh and like JG said earlier. oral is also less stimulating, probably so much so that you would have to concentrate a bit to really notice it, basically just enough to not let you sleep but not enough that you need to occupy yourself with things. I also find that the AG lasts much longer, I can't say that at 24 mark I would still feel like I was on MXE but I would surely tell you I was not yet totally baseline. Lastly, oral admin seems to be much more highly consistent, meaning I can usually just think "Hmmm I would like to be exactly at this level and 75 mgs gets me there 99% of the time", this means I rarely need to redose and if I do, I simply take 10-15 mgs and thats it. With sub dosing, sometimes 25 mgs could blow me away and kick in within 15 minutes but other times I would need more like 35-50 mgs and it would take more like a half an hour to properly get going. With oral, its always started within an hour and peaking an in hour and half. Orally I dose anywhere from 50-225mgs and sub I would dose anywhere from 25-125mgs. I will also say that oral has given much more profound experiences that feel miles deeper than sub.

I only ever tried rectal admin of MXE twice I believe and hearing that you and BD feel its a more nitrous like high makes me want to retry this when I acquire more. I know I definitely noted a stronger odder feeling with rectal but can't remember to many details.
 
any major dude said:
I've only used it orally or via insufflation, but IME oral is somewhat qualitatively "deeper," less manic, and less stimulating. I get some pretty nitrous-esqe stuff towards the end of insufflated experiences, haven't noticed it as much on the come up.
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^ This.

I feel the come up from insufflation to feel more like Ketamine, very quick weird dissociation, and that's the only reason I still use that ROA, because that feeling alone is enough to hole me if I'm pretty close with previous oral/sublingual doses. But yep, after that it's mostly a manic stimulating feeling, more like stimulant psychosis than dissociatives at high doses, and more like a slightly weird cocaine high at lower doses. (To some this may be great, but I purchase dissociatives for dissociation, not cocaine highs ;))

Oral on the other hand is a very relaxing almost sedative full on dissociation. Very clear-headed but it doesn't take away from how messed up you end up getting :D
 
I'm with everyone here... Few weeks ago started messing about with mxe, wondering what this after glow was... Usually did it every weekend, but had a free day on wednesday so did some on tuesday... After that day I felt so reborn and =l amazing... Found out about the 'occupy awareness' thing... Thought the world would really change.. Didn't get to visit any occupy establishment unfortunately...

Anyway few weeks forward and I haven't touched it in a while do to going for 'holiday'. And the magic seems gone... The thoughts I had seem kinda un-emotional now... Was it just an mxe after effect? Can anyone share any similar experience?

Had quite a bit happening few weeks back, and did have a 'suprising' amt experience which included me sharing 'personal intrests' with a close relative...

But either way let me know guys :D... Really miss that stuff... Wanna experiment with 5mgish doses still :D.. After exams and such...

Mxe though moment : 'This was all a dream, if I go to sleep now, I'll go back into the old world. I gotta stay awake and I'll stay here... But then I'll be tired tomorrow... Oh well'... Intresting?
 
i took mxe on tuesday and wednesday.
a few hours ago i took some tilidin and about an hour ago 1mg ativan.
and it brings the mxe back a little. feels very very good. :)
 
mushroomdub said:
I'm with everyone here... Few weeks ago started messing about with mxe, wondering what this after glow was... Usually did it every weekend, but had a free day on wednesday so did some on tuesday... After that day I felt so reborn and =l amazing.
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thats good to hear mate, amazing isn't it
 
I've been reading this thread for a good couple of months now and I feel I am finally ready to add my 2cents worth...After about a month of dealing with vendor bullshit, 2 weeks ago I finally received my package...
This substance is all about the ROA...like everyone has been saying...it literally possesses the traits of 4 DIFFERENT dissociatives depending on how you take it, not to mention other possibilities of sedation and or stimulation. It may be the most interesting and unique compound I've ever tried in my life. I have a really STRONG belief that this substance could be a medicine one day...if given the chance. I've found it to have a lot of potential for DEEP self exploration, and that it may have strong possibilities for bringing people out of deep depressions, or even daily depression maintenance. A 10-15mg oral dose can ward off the blues for me for an entire day if taken in the morning. WOW.

Here's my description of effects based on ROA...
I've been putting 75-100 mgs in blunts and smoking them over the course of 2-3 hours, smoking half and then putting it out, re-lighting it about an hour later. The high is very interesting, hits HARD within 5mins at the most. Not quite as dissociative...music sounded kinda tinny and metallic instead of downright amazing...BUT...I found it to be VERY visual with shapes and colors swirling all over the room and wonderful 3-D feelings of flying when you close your eyes. Def a Nitrousesque type of high, I notice an intense pressure on my head and mild ringing in the ears type feeling, like you get from nitrous, but it's also pretty damn euphoric on top of the visuals and heady high. It kinda reminded me of shooting K IV...as soon as that hit's you the world sounds like you put your head into a BEEHIVE it's buzzing so hard. I found smoking it to be pretty damn fun, just different. It doesn't last as long 3-4 hours max, it's not as stimulating, more of a couchlock type of high. Almost like smoking the craziest most psychedelic trees you've ever smoked, but way more intense.

I find that snorting it, the effects are closer to that of Ketamine at first...getting closer to feeling like PCP the more you use. I feel other folks gave good descriptions of these effects so I won't go into 2 much detail...I feel like when used nasally you don't realize how far gone you are until you stand up. After a few hours of sitting on the couch I start to feel like I've leveled off a bit...then I stand up and realize I'm right where I wanted to be...MOONBOUNCING.

When taken orally or sublingual, I find it to be closer to a DXM type feeling, although reasonably more clear headed and more visual. You come up nice and quick, no 2 hour wait. MXE always has a very clean and relaxing feeling to me, regardless of how it's taken. It seems like this is the common way people like to take it. Not 2 crazy if you aren't an experienced Disco(dissociative) head.

If you want to look inside yourself with a nice body buzz and feeling of calmness, i'd say eat it or take it sublingual. If you're interested in visiting the MOON and surrounding ORBITS...sniff it, smoke it, or shoot it. Either way, you're damn near guaranteed a good time. Have fun and stay safe bluelight. Peace
 
Mr.Hedges said:
If you want to look inside yourself with a nice body buzz and feeling of calmness, i'd say eat it or take it sublingual. If you're interested in visiting the MOON and surrounding ORBITS...sniff it, smoke it, or shoot it. Either way, you're damn near guaranteed a good time. Have fun and stay safe bluelight. Peace
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I find it odd that some many people like the insuff, route. For me it was very boring, stimulating, and comparatively just probably the worst ROA for MXE i've tried. Most others I talked with IRL agreed with this, hadn't really asked anyone online what they thought. I think the most damning is, for some reason it never seemed to highly potent or anything. Sub dosing seemed nearly inline with nasal except its effects were far greater. I even snorted nearly 150 mgs, maybe even a bit more almost all at once and I definitely got a strong experience but qualitatively it was just boring. Its almost odd to me how I find no value except for bumping maybe 5 mgs or so as a quick boost. Also I find redosing with MXE to be pretty cool, as for me, redosing with almost all substances is pretty useless. With MXE I could orally add 15 mgs and know it won't bump the trip up very much but it will keep that level going for a more solid timeframe. If I add 30, I get the timeframe boost as well as strength boost as long as I don't take it at the very end. Finally decided to dose some MXE again, was going to wait until tomorrow but i'm sure i'll begin today with a 15-50 mg oral dose. Probably stick in the middle since I haven't touched any diss besides n2o in a bit more than a month. Should be fun, I can't wait for the thought boost and the light mania/fair dissociation. I find that when I go without longer duration dissociation for a while, that first bit where it hits again is always pretty great. Always makes it feel like my mind in terms of thought pattern fluctuations would be moving at 15mph and with a bit of MXE/dissociation force to it speeds it up to 25mph. I might try smoking it sometime but I doubt it, MXE seems to have a smell to it, and it doesn't seem like vaping it would make that more pleasant. :\
 
I like to combine ROA's when you have drugs you can do so with.

I haven't tried smoking it and I've never stuck anything up my butt.

I take it ins an sub.

Example, I will frequently smoke hash and weed together.
Hash for the long drawn out couchlock sleepy feeling and weed for the instant forehead hitting rush. Or eat a pot brownie and use a bowl of weed to kick it in an hour later.

They are both cannabis in the long run.. but can both comment each other nicely.

IMO,
there is several different stages to be reached on MXE.
I think this because I take my 200mg total dose in small portions with dual ROA's and build up to a giant hole. Redosing in the hole creates more of the same effect for longer.

I feel like I can sense these stages:

buzzing, - stimulated and giddy.
"drunk", - you feel like you had a good bit of something to drink
"edging", - you can tell this is going to lead to more than a typical night at the bar
"Subholing" - you feel like you're in the hole but not quite ready to lay down and enjoy it.
"holing", - You're in the hole but you're not there. Walking is tough and you may question redosing.
and "bingo!" - you're there.
Things start to happen, you start going places and learning things. You may feel ego death and you might even vomit. (I never threw up but felt like I might a few times). You'll see the ocean of energy, you'll ride the green plasma/amoeba thing and you'll come back with a different attitude about life all together.

I wasn't able to get passed that.
When I hit bingo, further doses kept me there longer is all.
I think "bingo" is the experience we are all searching for. Nor is Bingo easy to reach repeatedly.
I don't know anything about this stuff though. Thats all just my guess. I don't know how far is too far but I felt when I was told to stop dosing by the substance because it wouldn't take me further.

For me that was somewhere around 200mg or a bit higher with no previous tolerance to anything related to this stuff.
 
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Help, I find the same really. Sniffing it feels more like cocaine with a slight drunk edge whereas sublingual and oral offer the full dissociative experience. That said, when I'm sitting on the edge of a hole, the best thing to do is a tiny bump and it'll send me soaring, even just the taste of the drip is enough to push me over the edge when I'm close.

Imo though, save insufflation for when you're already almost where you want to be for that quick boost :)
 
Jesusgreen said:
Help, I find the same really. Sniffing it feels more like cocaine with a slight drunk edge whereas sublingual and oral offer the full dissociative experience. That said, when I'm sitting on the edge of a hole, the best thing to do is a tiny bump and it'll send me soaring, even just the taste of the drip is enough to push me over the edge when I'm close.

Imo though, save insufflation for when you're already almost where you want to be for that quick boost :)
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You hit the nail on the head! A 5mg bump is always what the doctor ordered at that point and insuff. does have the benefit of kicking in instantly! Feeling very nicely from 30mgs orally. I'm really pretty excited to see how 3-MeO-PCP compares to MXE and figured I should get a light MXE trip in before I tried the 3-MeO as a bit of a refresher so it would be easy to plot points in my mind about differences and what not. I can also agree with Jazz Hands that certain drugs for me are rarely insuff. of the bat, I really only save it for that "Holy shit i'm on the verge here mother fuckers!!!!!!;)" feeling. MDMA and MXE are both perfect examples of this. Opi's I can't say I agree with since most have their BA risen somewhat or a great bit from insuff. to oral but the others.......

Also in recent months, i've been graced to have a large supply of n2o chargers just sitting around ready to go whenever and i've been finding that a few chargers in one go when your on the edge of a hole to be perfect as well(a bit obvious but...). It obviously doesn't keep up the intensity but I feel the insanity of nitrous always bumps up my mania or dissociation thats already being provided from whatever. Besides if in your in a hole already and you inhale some nitrous get ready to be hurled like a comet through outer space. ;)
 
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