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Sleeping after MD

Bilbs

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So ever since my first experiences with big doses of MD sleeping has become a lets say...more interesting experience. There's a few differences.

For those who don't know what a hypnagogic jerk or hypnagogic hallucination is:
It's like when you are about to finally drift off you get closed eye, audio or even Olfactory (smell) hallucinations. They aren't the kind where you think 'what the fuck?', it's all very vivid - much like a dream, until you realise it's not real which is when you get the hypnagogic jerk, basically a body twitch that wakes you up. They are often followed by a sense of fear, especially if you are on a comedown. My hallucinations often reflect the environment(s) I have just been in when on MD.

The next thing which is different which I have only been told about by my girlfriend/friends is in the middle of the night I rapidly sit up, look around and go back to sleep with no memory of it. These only occur during the first few days of a comedown.

The last thing which has only occurred twice in my life is sleep paralysis. This is where your mind is awake but your body is asleep. Much like a false awakening, you believe you have woken up however you are paralyzed, these can be accompanied with extremely terrifying hallucinations and can happen one after the other like false awakenings, can be quite tormenting.

All of the above are also natural sleep problems which can come from lack of sleep, messed up sleeping patterns and other things such as video games. For me, they only occur the week after i've taken MD and become less intense with each nights rest.

So my question is what are your experiences of any of these or other sleep issues after MD.
 
I've experienced sleep paralysis once, not sure if it was MDMA related because I didn't pop that night or too recently before that happend if i remember correctly.

I definitely get the hypnagogic hallucination! Never knew what it was called before. When it happens it almost feels as though I wasn't even asleep and then I'm not sure if I was actually falling asleep or thinking really hard...

I've also had a strange experience with my ex a couple times when we'd be trying to sleep after a night of raving and we'd be laying in silence and one of us would say something really random out of nowhere lol. He said "Men's or womens?" and I was like wtf.... Apparently he was thinking about basketball teams? Lol.
It's really strange and freaks me out a bit. It's almost as if you get so lost in weird, random thoughts and you end up speaking it out loud. It's also strange the things you think about after rolling... lol making up my own toothpaste commercials, thinking about riding the bus or making spaghetti... lmao why!?
 
haha yeah. the reason for saying stuff aloud is your brain looses dopamine as well as serotonin during a roll, especially if its a hard one. It starts to skip steps in processing which makes your brain jump to the conclusion. So for example with 'mens or womens' he was thinking about basketball, but maybe his brain told him that his thought was actually said by you aloud, which would create this audio hallucination type thing. I get it all the time. Another example have you ever been talking to someone on MD and you stop talking for a bit then this happens A:What? B:What? A:I didn't say anything... B:What? Neither did I? Same reason behind it.
 
I've never had a problem sleeping, unless I take pressed pills. I take lots of advanced nutritional supplements like cellfood, raw green foods powder, various adaptogenic herbs, aniracetam, high ORAC concentrated juices, etc..also I drink a lot of water while rolling and keep the dosing/redosing to a responsible level.

for sleeping the best (in order of effectively knocking your ass out) oral thc, kava, smoked cannabis, valerian



thc is also thought to help prevent some neurotoxicity caused by mdma, as it regulates your body temp and in theory prevents your brain from cooking like eggs in a frying pan
 
had quite a few similar things happen to this after MDMA use. its weird
 
Yeah I've experienced situations similar to that haha. It creeps me out but at the same time it's pretty funny looking back at it. And skipping steps in processing makes a lot of sense... I wanna learn more about dopamine, like how it works during or after rolling and what happens when there's too much or too little... this conversation intrigued me lol
 
for sleeping the best (in order of effectively knocking your ass out) oral thc, kava, smoked cannabis, valerian.

thc is also thought to help prevent some neurotoxicity caused by mdma, as it regulates your body temp and in theory prevents your brain from cooking like eggs in a frying pan

Good to know, but there is not trouble sleeping, i can sleep while i'm still rolling. It's just weird happenings as i'm falling asleep or as i'm waking up. It doesn't bother me anymore after so many nights of experiencing hypnagognic hallucinations i don't get the jerk anymore, just drift off and they turn into dreams. I only bought this up because my girlfriend has started to get them as shes relatively new to MD - they freak her out.

I don't smoked weed anymore nor does she, even on a comedown, espcially as our time between rolls is pretty long and weed just puts us in a bad place. I'll check out valerian and kava though
 
^ well first you say there is no trouble sleeping...then you go on to say how you have trouble sleeping. Or are hypnagogic hallucinations not the same as trouble sleeping?

Things like kava and valerian are extremely helpful in producing feelings of peace, serenity, tranquility, a lot like cannabis. Plus they help you sleep through the whole night, and also have muscle relaxing properties. And I mentioned all the health foods i take for a reason.....that's why i can go on a gnarly bender and still come out fine, because i eat vegetables and not fast food. Just trying to stress the importance of a healthy diet, and how many problems that would not exist in the first place if people just ate right.
 
It's not a trouble, as in it doesn't effect me getting to sleep. I still sleep like a stoner. However it does give my girlfriend troubles as she is new to it hence the interest in kava and valerian.
 
I experienced all of the above. Not from MDMA. DOC caused that my sleep was funny and scary for some 5 days (hypnagotic jerk and that kinda shit).

Sleep paralysis has happened before I took any drugs, but 2c-x drugs potentiated that.I get those regularly now but I also have messed up sleep pattern, so I don't blame drugs for it.
 
the only strange sleep issues i have had is on the second nights sleep (after i took the mdma and slept one night). I was lying in bed and i thought i was at the red hot chili peppers concert. I was semi awake the whole time though. Strange it twas
 
I always have strange, random visuals while falling asleep after a good roll. I had one really weird one after taking pills that were MDA, while drifting off to sleep i had the pleasant vision of a family of penguins waddling around in a snow storm. It was random as hell, but i was somewhat awhere and enjoyed it very much. Kind of like a movie in my head.
 
^thats awesome I love penguins... Anyways sometimes right when I'm about to fall asleep I get that twitch youre talking about, but I can never remember what I am visualizing/seeing in my minds eye when it happens. the twitch always hits me and I regain full consciousness and cant remember exactly what I was thinking about that caused the twitch. The actual twitch is quite uncomfortable but as soon as I am fully awake I feel normal. These twitches have never happened as a result of mdma, I can't even remember having one since I was pretty young, like 12-13, before I was doing drugs. usually it happened when I was really really tired, I'd twitch and wake up fully then fall right to sleep.
 
yeah for sure, i've had some pretty horrible ones whilst scattin, got hit by a huge white bus which was coming down this massive quater pipe like road, but i didn't wake up i got sleep paralysis which scared the fuck out of me, thought i was dead.
 
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