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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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Hey, just thought I'd offer my two cents here in case anybody was wondering...

I recently took MXE 30 hours before I was taking a drug test for a new job. The drug test was a lab-grade 8-panel MedTox UA, and despite having used the chemical, I did not come back positive for PCP. Just thought i'd give my personal experience, because not very much confirmation of this can be found on the internet besides a couple of reports. So I'm just adding on...
 
What do you guys reckon is a good dose for me to start with? I have no experience with it, nor ketamine or dissociatives at all, I am a young average-weight female, but I do have a weird high natural tolerance for a lot of drugs (mdma for example). And when trying new things, I don't like to start with a safe, small dosage, rather a blow-your-mind one... But I realize how irresponsible behaviour that is, so disregard that hah. Any other advice for my first time with mxe is very welcomed, I feel like I have a lot left to learn about this substance :)
 
20/30mg, then wait 2 hours. do not hastily re-dose. 20mg more if you feel alright after that

theres is a lot to learn, mxe is amazing =D just keep somebody with you, a trip sitter or something, things can get real weird on it and theres a chance of injury or doing something stupid
 
Looking to order some of this soon. However, I'm not really one for snorting things. What is the oral ROA like? What would a good dose be for taking it orally?

lol MXE is like my favorite besides DOC or 2C-P :) i always dose oral with this stuff, and it hink a good place to start might be 30mg, or 50mg if you have a bit of experience with DXM or some other dissociative. MXE is about 10x as potent as DXM by weight, i figure. total estimate though :p
 
The 500mgs that I ordered is on its way and should be here by the end of the week. I only done it twice so far; ~40mgs the first time snorted over about 3 hours and ~60mgs the second time snorted over about 20 mins. I would like to give sublingual a try. What would be the best way to go about it; should I dissolve it in a tiny amount of water first or just pour the powder under my tongue?


I am very excited about digging deeper with this substance.
 
If you don't mind me asking, how would you describe your first two experiences on the dosages you stated?
 
So, as prolly a few of you who follow the MXE scene are aware, there is a serious issue with product purity going around right now.

Is it salty or saline-like? Is it bitter? Is it sandy or crystalline or floury or fluffy? Is it yellow, off white or white like driven snow?

Dammit. We just want reliably pure MXE... But for the last three attempts a salty, MSG-like, hypertensive mix of junk has been all that has made it to us.

Analysis of this material shows that the organic extractable fraction is demonstrably MXE, but that the material contains LOTS of inorganic salts that are silent on NMR and MS. That way, the NMR or HPLC-MS looks clean, but on a per mass basis the recent materials received are laughably weak due to the inclusion of inorganic salts in the final products (intentional for purposes of profit, or due to ineptitude, who knows?).

Basically, the "bunk" MXE is salty, off-white/yellowed, granular or crystalline and sometimes has a weak, odd odor. Great MXE is fluffy, white, bitter like an amine should be and NOT salty.
Read on for details (tl;dr = basify, extract into organic, remove solvent, vape, smile):

It was first ascertained that the MXE was clean of appreciable organic impurities. It was secondly determined that the MXE material was contaminated with inorganic salts, and that the material provided VERY negative outcomes upon oral ROA. The insufflated ROA was also attempted once, and once only. Negative outcomes included soberness, hypertensive incidents, headaches, tinnitus and frustration.

* So, weak, yellow, granular, salty MXE was dissolved in distilled water and warmed until dissolved and the aqueous solution was clear and slightly yellow.
* Then sodium hydroxide was added, which immediately turned the aqueous solution opaque with suspended solids (insoluble MXE base).
* Hexane was added and the container shaken vigorously.
* The aqueous layer become less opaque (as MXE base moved into the hexane layer) and a nasty brown interface layer developed.
* Hexane layer was removed to a new container, and the aqueous layer was reextracted with another amount of hexane.
* Hexane layers were combined and the solvent was removed by evaporation until a minimal amount remained.
* A tube was tared, 1/5 ml of remaining hexane solution was added and the solvent removed by evaporation. The tube was reweighed and it was determined that ~21 mg of oily material was left in the glass tube after hexane was blown off.
* Remaining hexane was aliquoted into tubes and dried down in the same fashion.

=> As a ROA, a tube was heated with a lighter and the residue was vaporized/inhaled (~1/3 tube per session = ~7 mg).

Effects of vaporized MXE base, compared to MXE powder:

* Timeline: Effects manifest within ~1-5 minutes, and peak by 15 mins. It is STRONGLY suggested that at LEAST 20 minutes waiting/assessment period is inserted after each robust inhalation, or couple of weak inhalations... Effects can compound quickly to produce an overwhelming experience. Effects do not last as long as other ROAs, peak hits for about 20 minutes, appreciable comedown is achieved within 1 hour, and by 2 hours it's done.

* Quantitative effects: WTFROFLMAOBBQ. I'd say it's a tad bit more potent than what most folks are used to, when they go for a MXE experience. And by "tad bit" I mean "a million metric tons". For a frame of reference, remember that ~20 mgs makes it into the tube for vaporization. This is enough for ~3 powerful (but brief) sessions. Thus, ~6-7 mg MXE base vaporized will put someone on their ass, even with tolerance.

* Qualitative effects: COMPLETELY different than oral or insufflated. Vaporized MXE base is very rushy, manic, colorful, pushy and stimulating. There is no hole, at least from what we've seen... When one treis to get close to the M-hole zone the other effects of vaporized MXE (rushy, pushy, dopaminergic mania) come to the forefront and take over- preventing a hole from manifesting. It's also less visual, in that CEVs which are often experienced with oral and insuff MXE are not present for vaporized MXE.

So, although we're still hunting for the real, pure MXE... We can at least rest easy in the sure knowledge that our last three purchases of MXE baby do not have to be thrown out with the inorganic bathwater impurities. They will be converted to base and used for experimentation instead.

Up next in the utilization of MXE base is to add a few drops of vinegar to a tube containing ~20 mg MXE to dissolve and form the acetate salt in situ, followed by dilution into water and oral ROA. Will this provide the oral effects (Vaping MXE base gets exhausting after awhile) while avoiding the goddam toxic inorganic junk? We hope so!

I can't believe this thread isn't filled with replies. So many people could benefit from this! To the OP, what ever happened with your acetate salt attempt?
 
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Sorry if I'm re-hashing an issue, but I tried the search function and it just gives me this thread, which is 73 pages long, too long to search for a particular discussion on this topic.

Topic: Crystal MXE.

I have gone through about 20g of powder MXE over the last year, feel I am very familiar with it, but my vendor stopped shipping to USA. So, I find a new vendor, seems reliable (this is not a vendor discussion by the way). Anyway, I get this crystal stuff, not powder. Taste is familiar, like the powder, maybe a bit milder. After three dose attempts at around 40mg, separated by 90 minutes, I feel nothing. (Dosing orally.) If the taste was not familiar, I'd think this was bunk. As it stands, I'm wondering if the crystal versus powder has anything to do with absorption rates, stuff like that. So, can anyone else who has tried both give me the benefit of his/her wisdom on crystal versus powder? Is there a consensus forming about one being better than the other? Or just that some stuff in circulation is weak, perhaps cut (I'm no expert, but it looks very clean, uniform in color, crystal size, so it does not look "cut" to me). PM or response in this thread is appreciated. Sorry again if this is redundant.

~psychoblast~
 
I just browsed a few earlier pages, and thought I'd add some thoughts on the topics being discussed:

ROA: I started nasal, as I was shifting from Ket, but after a month, I switched to oral and found it was much better, stronger. This is not something that needs to be insufflated to work. If it goes up your nose, it's probably going to drip down into your stomach anyway for absorption. I like snorthing stuff, but the clogged nostrils and drip was just not worth it.

Dosing advice: From what I've read, there may be different batches with different strengths going around. One person says they give 50mg to newbies with no problem, another says 20mg can have a major psychic kick. So don't assume you have a weak batch. Start low, stay safe.

Holing: People are asking about K-hole doses, apparently shooting for an M-hole. However, I thought (from personal experience and reading others' posts) that it is pretty clear this is NOT a good thing to hole-out on because YOU DO NOT BECOME STILL. When you K-hole, you are pretty much motionless, can't do much harm to yourself or others. When you M-Hole, you can still jump up, run around, act out, and do physical shit. That's a dangerous place to be unless you have some really on-the-ball trip-sitters, and a padded room. If you want to go into a hole, stick with K.

~psychoblast~
 
after about 2.5g and 2.5 months summary:

- less 50mg feels like amazing ketamine, better than ketamine really, recreational value very high, combo value high

+ more 50mg feels like i have a maniac guy inside my head, totally fuck ups my circuits, still can be fun, psychonaut value very low, combo value medium-low
 
Sorry if I'm re-hashing an issue, but I tried the search function and it just gives me this thread, which is 73 pages long, too long to search for a particular discussion on this topic.

Topic: Crystal MXE.

I have gone through about 20g of powder MXE over the last year, feel I am very familiar with it, but my vendor stopped shipping to USA. So, I find a new vendor, seems reliable (this is not a vendor discussion by the way). Anyway, I get this crystal stuff, not powder. Taste is familiar, like the powder, maybe a bit milder. After three dose attempts at around 40mg, separated by 90 minutes, I feel nothing. (Dosing orally.) If the taste was not familiar, I'd think this was bunk. As it stands, I'm wondering if the crystal versus powder has anything to do with absorption rates, stuff like that. So, can anyone else who has tried both give me the benefit of his/her wisdom on crystal versus powder? Is there a consensus forming about one being better than the other? Or just that some stuff in circulation is weak, perhaps cut (I'm no expert, but it looks very clean, uniform in color, crystal size, so it does not look "cut" to me). PM or response in this thread is appreciated. Sorry again if this is redundant.

~psychoblast~
the crystal stuff is definitely less potent. the effects are pretty much the same but i didnt find it as enjoyable as the official stuff. Probably all the subjective differences were in my head but I do wonder if maybe the "crystal mxe" is just 3-meo-pce or something?
I can, however, say with certainty that the crystal batch is less potent by weight as I still have official batches to compare.

One other thing: a certain vendor offers both crystal and powder forms of MXE and describes the crystal form as the "lite" version.
 
Does anyone know if this chemical can be vaped/smoked in it's HCl form? I believe I have HCl as it does not hurt to insufflate. Is this a safe assumption?
 
after about 2.5g and 2.5 months summary:

- less 50mg feels like amazing ketamine, better than ketamine really, recreational value very high, combo value high

+ more 50mg feels like i have a maniac guy inside my head, totally fuck ups my circuits, still can be fun, psychonaut value very low, combo value medium-low

roa?
 

Always oral. Unfortunaly start to salivate too much with sublingual failling 85% times and swallow. Snorted lacks in dissociative effects quality and dose is same as oral (if not higher??) with nausea. Plugging tried 2 times, good results but thats for cowboys lol :)

What mean with max threshold 50mg and then starts to enter M*Zone cant describe better the headspace, with maniac thoughts (obsessive, delusional, unrealistic) still controllable and at +75mg the things get wild with me loosing totally sense of identity, or thinking im someone else, or talking innmate objects, or the coolest was thinking was like neo from the matrix and was plugged out to M(atrix)*Zone reality - at this level is purely recreational, my mind is too fucked to take anything objectively or gain anything from this "shortcircuited" motherboard.
 
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I´m atracted to try this one, but i´m reluctant for possible brain injury/neruotoxicity or similar stuff... Is nothing published about this yet?
 
LSD and MXE is still the combo around. i'm trying DMT + MXE next week. ill let you guize know how it goes
 
MXE and DMT go very well togheter in me, maybe because I dont feel any anxiete before smoking the DMT when Im mexed.
Still, during the DMT flash the MXE effects seem to dissapear, and afterwards I feel so calm, almost sober and ready for a nap (MXE alone makes it very difficult to sleep sometimes)
 
With 5 threads and 73 pages I think its safe to say this will get noticed and scheduled sometime in the near future. How it hasn't yet is beyond me.
 
been thinking that for ages. so surprised it hasnt been banned yet. such a strong, messy drug. would be a dream for the media to start ranting about this
 
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