I recently gained access to watson fentanyl gel patches, 25mcg per hour, 2.5mgs total. They have been worn for the 72-hours already, so if everything went on schedule with the releasing of the drug I'm thinking there is probably 700mcg of fentanyl in there. give or take a few hundred mcgs because of activity and heat. I've been using opiates on and off for about 4-5 years now so I'm not opiate naive. My current tolerance is about 120mg of morphine plugged to get an okay nod. Is this tolerance too low to try to catch a buzz safely from the fentanyl? I was thinking that the limited amount of gel, and the fact that they are a lower dosage patch would possibly help out with the safety as well. I was planning on trying 1/4 of the patch buccally, thinking it would be a dosage in the range of 100-300mcgs - later moving up to a half patch if needed. Does this sound like a relatively safe way to go about this? Is my tolerance too low to even think about it?
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Escapedysphoria
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If you're tolerance is 120mg of morphine, 100-300mcgs of fentanyl is waaaay too much to dose orally. As you're probably aware it's a STRONG ASS opioid approx 100x more potent than morphine. Start low and be careful, it's hard to dose fentanyl orally. There's been countless times I thought I was straight leaving the patch in my mouth for a little longer until i was puking my brains out. Orally I've found it comes on suddle (unlike vaping the gel which is a huge rush ime) then hits you like a ton of bricks and you start nodding heavy
Ahh okay. I was thinking that sublingual was safer ROA to go. Smoking is safer to find dosage because of the instant effects?
I realize that none of this is truly safe, I'm just trying to find the lesser of the evils here.
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
nAON
Bluelight Crew
Smoking is probably the best option. 120mg plugged of morphine is a decent tolerance, though for safety terms I wouldn't smoke more than 0.5mg at once - cutting your patch into quarters and then halving those quarters is probably your best bet.
The sublingual dose is gonna be similar to the smoked dose, just be wary of doing too much. Can be easy to think you're doing too little because there isn't teh same rush you get when you smoke it.
The sublingual dose is gonna be similar to the smoked dose, just be wary of doing too much. Can be easy to think you're doing too little because there isn't teh same rush you get when you smoke it.
So i should be cutting the patch into 8ths even though there may be only around 700mcg left in it? Just wondering. These are used patches so there isnt the full amount of fentanyl left in them. Like i was saying, i can't know the full amount, but I'm estimating 700mcg, +- 100-200mcg per patch. I will be able to compare them to a full patch to have a better estimate at the time I actually get them tomorrow.
Figured I would report back to help anyone else who is in a similar situation.
I smoked a used patch's worth of the gel today. I used a tinfoil "boat" and the hollowed out body of a pic pen to inhale the vapor. Started off with a very small bead of gel (a half to a fourth the size of a match head) just to be safe. Didn't feel anything at all from the first bit of gel, so I continued to increase the size a bit with each hit, waiting about 5 minutes in between hits. I eventually got up to beads of gel a little bigger than a BB, and by that time I was nicely buzzed. I would compare it to 60-75mg of morphine plugged, although lacking in the euphoria department and of course much shorter lived. I did notice more respiratory depression than with other opiates. There was no real rush per say, but I am sure that is just because of the small iterations I used to scale up my dose. I'll be doing another trial with this substance in the next few days, and I now feel confident that I will be able to dose appropriately next time. Hopefully next time I will get more of the rush I've heard that comes from smoking.
I am not sure if this is the case, but do lower mcg/hour patches have a lower concentration of fentanyl in the alcohol gel than higher mcg/hour patches? This may explain why I slightly overestimated the potency after reading so much about higher mcg/hour patches and expecting similar results.
I smoked a used patch's worth of the gel today. I used a tinfoil "boat" and the hollowed out body of a pic pen to inhale the vapor. Started off with a very small bead of gel (a half to a fourth the size of a match head) just to be safe. Didn't feel anything at all from the first bit of gel, so I continued to increase the size a bit with each hit, waiting about 5 minutes in between hits. I eventually got up to beads of gel a little bigger than a BB, and by that time I was nicely buzzed. I would compare it to 60-75mg of morphine plugged, although lacking in the euphoria department and of course much shorter lived. I did notice more respiratory depression than with other opiates. There was no real rush per say, but I am sure that is just because of the small iterations I used to scale up my dose. I'll be doing another trial with this substance in the next few days, and I now feel confident that I will be able to dose appropriately next time. Hopefully next time I will get more of the rush I've heard that comes from smoking.
I am not sure if this is the case, but do lower mcg/hour patches have a lower concentration of fentanyl in the alcohol gel than higher mcg/hour patches? This may explain why I slightly overestimated the potency after reading so much about higher mcg/hour patches and expecting similar results.