himynameispaul
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are you at all familiar with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti
I have a pretty strong feeling youll connect with all his findings.
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Salvia?
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are you at all familiar with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti
I have a pretty strong feeling youll connect with all his findings.
You know the old nintendo 64 game system? You know where you'd yank the cartridge out and shit would go crazy and fly everywhere? Smoking salvia is like yanking the cartridge out of reality. I didn't like it at all, I was seriously depressed for a few months after. I wasn't ready for that kind of experience at all.
HexaHexaHexa
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I smoked Salvia for the first time 3 hours ago.
I have been preparing for this recently - decided I am going to make the most out of things from now on, even though I was well aware Salvia wasn't supposed to be 'fun'. I'd never done any psychedellics before, only drank and smoked weed and synthetic cannabinoids. I was really nervous about this. I had 10x standardized extract, my flatmate and his gf were with me (flatmate has done Salvia, DMT etc so he sorta knew what to expect).
A lot of it was like a flash. Completely lost on me. I remember being in this universe of bright colours, everything sort of like plastecine. It was like a universe for kids, like they created it with their mind. Agree with what everyone else says, totally intense, can't even say if I do or don't remember who I was, although I don't think so. It was like everything was as it should be, but I'm not even sure I thought that. It was just intense and confusing and I was totally unaware of reality. Like being in a dream, it just seemed totally normal.
So yeah, everything was bright, rainbow-coloured plastecine stripes, part of the - whatever the fuck i was in - was made up of a skirting board and wall, and it was spiralling and recreating itself in a pattern. I couldn't say how many because to show proper respect to what I was, numbers did not exist. I'm just thinking that whoever reads this paragraph is going to laugh because it's exactly what Salvia does.
Then I was somehow on this axis, falling forward and spinning again and again and the end of the axis linked to sections that were like different universes (seperated in the same kind of segments as the spirals) and there were different choices in each one (like a gameshow or something) and then I saw my flatmate in one and was totally surprised and I said "Tim!" and him and his girlfriend were like "hey!" and I reached out to them, span round again and came back and again said "Tim!" and again they said "hey!" and then the third time round I escaped...I was back on my bed.
I felt like I had been hit by something so hard, like this mindfuck waterfall just landed on me. I admit I was scared of being dragged back into it. I was trying to ask my flatmate this but wouldn't just come out and ask, because I was scared it would enjoy hearing me say I didn't enjoy it and would pull me back in (lady salvia, or some other malicious presence), so i was like "so, that's the most intense part right?" and faded back into reality.
I did set up a relaxing atmosphere with soft lights, music and was as comfortable as I could be (I'll never be nervous when I do this shit again, if I do), flatmate and girlfriend said I stood up, jumped up and down, screamed, laughed hysterically and I don't remember a fucking thing of that. Flatmate's girlfriend did it, laughed a lot and said she saw a pink horse and was in some magical fairyland, flatmate did it and told me he was gonna kill me with my trilinear (my favourite type of pen), we had to hold him down. He later said the pen was "an integral part of the universe" and that's why he wouldn't let go of it.
Sorry to go on so much... treat this drug with respect and if you are going to start, I'd probably recommend starting with the weakest extract, but in a demented way I am glad I started with 10x and so fucking glad I have now tripped.
ps: My first post, hi everyone
I have been preparing for this recently - decided I am going to make the most out of things from now on, even though I was well aware Salvia wasn't supposed to be 'fun'. I'd never done any psychedellics before, only drank and smoked weed and synthetic cannabinoids. I was really nervous about this. I had 10x standardized extract, my flatmate and his gf were with me (flatmate has done Salvia, DMT etc so he sorta knew what to expect).
A lot of it was like a flash. Completely lost on me. I remember being in this universe of bright colours, everything sort of like plastecine. It was like a universe for kids, like they created it with their mind. Agree with what everyone else says, totally intense, can't even say if I do or don't remember who I was, although I don't think so. It was like everything was as it should be, but I'm not even sure I thought that. It was just intense and confusing and I was totally unaware of reality. Like being in a dream, it just seemed totally normal.
So yeah, everything was bright, rainbow-coloured plastecine stripes, part of the - whatever the fuck i was in - was made up of a skirting board and wall, and it was spiralling and recreating itself in a pattern. I couldn't say how many because to show proper respect to what I was, numbers did not exist. I'm just thinking that whoever reads this paragraph is going to laugh because it's exactly what Salvia does.
Then I was somehow on this axis, falling forward and spinning again and again and the end of the axis linked to sections that were like different universes (seperated in the same kind of segments as the spirals) and there were different choices in each one (like a gameshow or something) and then I saw my flatmate in one and was totally surprised and I said "Tim!" and him and his girlfriend were like "hey!" and I reached out to them, span round again and came back and again said "Tim!" and again they said "hey!" and then the third time round I escaped...I was back on my bed.
I felt like I had been hit by something so hard, like this mindfuck waterfall just landed on me. I admit I was scared of being dragged back into it. I was trying to ask my flatmate this but wouldn't just come out and ask, because I was scared it would enjoy hearing me say I didn't enjoy it and would pull me back in (lady salvia, or some other malicious presence), so i was like "so, that's the most intense part right?" and faded back into reality.
I did set up a relaxing atmosphere with soft lights, music and was as comfortable as I could be (I'll never be nervous when I do this shit again, if I do), flatmate and girlfriend said I stood up, jumped up and down, screamed, laughed hysterically and I don't remember a fucking thing of that. Flatmate's girlfriend did it, laughed a lot and said she saw a pink horse and was in some magical fairyland, flatmate did it and told me he was gonna kill me with my trilinear (my favourite type of pen), we had to hold him down. He later said the pen was "an integral part of the universe" and that's why he wouldn't let go of it.
Sorry to go on so much... treat this drug with respect and if you are going to start, I'd probably recommend starting with the weakest extract, but in a demented way I am glad I started with 10x and so fucking glad I have now tripped.
ps: My first post, hi everyone
Necr0sis
Bluelighter
I absolutely love it, I've gone through almost a gram of 20x to begin with and I'm about done with the gram of 50x I've got.
Once the school bus takes off your at the mercy of sally, be kind at heart with her and be sure you want her there with you and she may treat you with upmost love. I can tell you 20x is by far more 'fun' than 50, and to quite honest, I get nervous before ripping one for the first time in every session, the 2nd rip always seems to be much easier because I have a sense of direction of where I'm going. I prefer 50x, a much more serious note but that's just me.
My 1st psychedelic and certainly not my last, I plan to experiment with other psyches and see what works with me soon.
Its not for everyone, but it definately worth a try. Its an extremely Short trip- if a trip goes sour (I've had 1 out of like at least 9 trips, haha she's been quite generous with me) and uve gave it ur best (good setting and mood) then it may not be for you, although I have no trouble doing it in a risky setting (living room)
I like being at that mercy point where I am left crippled on the ground, trip being short never has induced a panic attack with me. I love it, the sweats, the enhanced sense of touch, everything.
Once the school bus takes off your at the mercy of sally, be kind at heart with her and be sure you want her there with you and she may treat you with upmost love. I can tell you 20x is by far more 'fun' than 50, and to quite honest, I get nervous before ripping one for the first time in every session, the 2nd rip always seems to be much easier because I have a sense of direction of where I'm going. I prefer 50x, a much more serious note but that's just me.
My 1st psychedelic and certainly not my last, I plan to experiment with other psyches and see what works with me soon.
Its not for everyone, but it definately worth a try. Its an extremely Short trip- if a trip goes sour (I've had 1 out of like at least 9 trips, haha she's been quite generous with me) and uve gave it ur best (good setting and mood) then it may not be for you, although I have no trouble doing it in a risky setting (living room)
I like being at that mercy point where I am left crippled on the ground, trip being short never has induced a panic attack with me. I love it, the sweats, the enhanced sense of touch, everything.
shady4091
Bluelighter
Salvia is one of the only psychedelics where I feel like set and setting really don't matter at all. Both your "set" and "setting" are completely abolished during the experience. My thought process was not of this world at all, I wasn't thinking about anything in my grounded life. That coupled with the fact that during the experience you're not even aware that you're high on anything, how can you really prepare then?
Necr0sis
Bluelighter
Oh but it does, I did it on an open time, worried that my parents would walk in on me while I was left on. The ground salvia-tarded, sure enough that was precisely what triggered my bad trip.
The trip itself I couldn't say u could prepare yourself for, you must brace yourself for a mind-fucking trip that you probably won't remember at the climax of, all with optimism however, that's as far as prep goes. Imo.
shady4091
Bluelighter
I'm talking about total breakthrough experiences. If you were still aware that you're parents might walk in on you, or hell, if you were still aware that you even have parents then you weren't fully gone. When I did it last, it was in a comfortable setting at a comfortable point in my life but when those walls of reality fall down none of that matters. According to my roommate I was screaming, running around wild and frantic and I could have been in the middle of downtown, at a restaurant, at a party, anywhere and it would have went the same way.
RhythmSpring
Bluelighter
^ ^ I agree that set matters little with salvia, but setting is VERY important, actually. Clear the space of dangerous objects (no edges, no ledges EDIT: and mothers), and if you plan on leaving this plane of existence, you should have a sitter.
HexaHexaHexa- Welcome! Cool name. Glad you got something out of your Salvia experience. Try lower doses, too, they can be equally if not more rewarding than the ones that rip you out of reality. They seem more cohesively coherent and more readily relevant to real reality.
HexaHexaHexa- Welcome! Cool name. Glad you got something out of your Salvia experience. Try lower doses, too, they can be equally if not more rewarding than the ones that rip you out of reality. They seem more cohesively coherent and more readily relevant to real reality.
Necr0sis
Bluelighter
^lol
Coming down from my trip i look at things and think, with great emphasis- great is an understatement-- on one i was coming down from one and i sought how inhumane the internet was, speaking to people you will most likely never meet, we grow so attached to anything these days to those when (in reality) they have so little part to our lives, this stuck with me for quite some time, im sure i wouldve achieved the same if i low-dosed
ive only used a sitter on about 4 trips, i lie down, and i have caught myself trying to climb/run while tripping, but somehow i manage to stay down, as if a turtle flipped upside down. But thats just me
Coming down from my trip i look at things and think, with great emphasis- great is an understatement-- on one i was coming down from one and i sought how inhumane the internet was, speaking to people you will most likely never meet, we grow so attached to anything these days to those when (in reality) they have so little part to our lives, this stuck with me for quite some time, im sure i wouldve achieved the same if i low-dosed
ive only used a sitter on about 4 trips, i lie down, and i have caught myself trying to climb/run while tripping, but somehow i manage to stay down, as if a turtle flipped upside down. But thats just me
shady4091
Bluelighter
That's absolutely true, but that's not the traditional meaning of the word "setting" in this context. I'm talking about setting having an effect psychologically on the outcome of your trip, not the setting being physically hazardous.
yes it's a strange laugh... not like a serotonin based psychedelic laugh.... like a manic kind of like a shaman-trace kind of laugh. not a it-was-a-funny-joke kind of thing
i like the idea of chewing salvia leaves, i might have to try
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Necr0sis
Bluelighter
my dad had taken a more sinister form (but still very familiar-it was him(it was part of the trip, he didnt really walk in on me)) walked down the twisted stairs in my house- i began to run up an endless stairway in pitch darkness which tilted all the while becoming part of a giant letter, ~lol
edit: looks like i was rocketing out of reality now that i read it.
p.s. the laugh is all funny in-itself to me haha
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Oats
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im not really interested in much other drugs. none has caught my eye and made me want to learn about it. i think most drugs are dumb.
alexvolume2
Bluelighter
Salvia was the first real drug I'd ever tried years back; I had chosen the tincture form due to it being less intense, and it is, but it lasts so much longer than the smoked extract so integration of the experience is possible. It was an excellent trip and I trust this method to deliver a more manageable experience, probably safer too. I was introduced, literal first-timer, to psychedelic mindspace by salvia tincture so I feel an affinity to the plant and am so glad I didn't experience it smoked first because it probably would've been just too much at the time. I had no trip sitter, just lied in my dark bedroom and listened to Kind of Blue.