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Salvia?

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what was your experience like and would you recommend it? it has been a drug that ive been debating about trying for 2 years now. just be a bit cautious
 
It lasts 5 minutes, feels like forever, very very weird, you get lost in a whorl. There are a few people who claim it has amazing powers. Most people don't like it much.
 
Salvia is ridiculously intense. I wouldn't recommend it or recommend against it. Its your own decision to make.
 
Yeah the times I tried it, it was hard for me to say for what reason I was actually doing it. A pure experiment into the unknown and mystical I guess, but I always found Salvia a thousand times more confusing and disturbing and twisted than DMT, which doesn't mean DMT is any less intense... I do see Salvia as something profound and potentially worthwhile but I have got a feeling that smoking is not the way to go for that and you would have to investigate the quid or tincture RoA.
Basically I did not feel like I was getting that much out of my Salvia trips because I simply could not understand even the tiniest bit of the language so to speak. With DMT, its incomprehensible but more in a way like a civilization is ages more advanced than ours, only spiritually.
On the other hand I have gotten into very interesting meditative states with it, but I have not sought after Salvia experiences for more than a handful of times.

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Most people I know have only tried the extract method, and not chewed the leaves. Major turn off for me is the intense mouth feeling. Like your jaw is all fucked up. Does chewing the leaves make it a more easy experience to go with the flow? Like DMT?
 
^Chewing salvia makes it kick in slower then smoking, but the peak experience is still extremely baffling. Its nothing like DMT. It combines okay with DMT though...
 
Solipsis said:
Yeah the times I tried it, it was hard for me to say for what reason I was actually doing it. A pure experiment into the unknown and mystical I guess, but I always found Salvia a thousand times more confusing and disturbing and twisted than DMT, which doesn't mean DMT is any less intense... I do see Salvia as something profound and potentially worthwhile but I have got a feeling that smoking is not the way to go for that and you would have to investigate the quid or tincture RoA.
Basically I did not feel like I was getting that much out of my Salvia trips because I simply could not understand even the tiniest bit of the language so to speak. With DMT, its incomprehensible but more in a way like a civilization is ages more advanced than ours, only spiritually.
On the other hand I have gotten into very interesting meditative states with it, but I have not sought after Salvia experiences for more than a handful of times.

We have a thread on this, expect them to be merged. And please next time find them yourself using the Psychedelic Index, advanced Search and read the Beginners FAQ of PD!
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this is a great post. i've never tried salvia, but am somewhat apprehensive since it's a disassociative and i had one bad experience once with some robo.

just curious, what dosages and potency did you start out with? and what was ur smoking apparatus?
 
Salvia is the most ridiculous and random 'drug' that I have partaken in to this day.

My trips have varied vastly, but the one thing that has been the same in all of them is what I call the Salvia Laugh.

When I start laughing, I start tripping, hard. Keeping your eyes open and closing them also tends to create a different experience.

Because it is so intense, a lot of people don't like it at all. But if you like tripping into oblivion, then Salvia Divinorium is the plant for you. Buy it online though its way cheaper.
 
Tripping into oblivion is fun, like breakthrough dmt, but salvia, completely destroys my sense of being to where there is no judjement. I can't even speculate on the non-judjemental part its just so intense. How can I enjoy when there is no I, and how can I encorporate extreme salvia feelings into real life, or better yet, encorporate emotion into my salvia trips?
 
Salvia is nothing like DMT except for it's short duration and intensity. 50x extract smoked out of a bong with a torch lighter was disorienting, confusing, and overall pretty unpleasant. I wouldn't really recommend it, but to each his own. DMT on the other hand... ;)
 
johntheman said:
Tripping into oblivion is fun, like breakthrough dmt, but salvia, completely destroys my sense of being to where there is no judjement. I can't even speculate on the non-judjemental part its just so intense. How can I enjoy when there is no I, and how can I encorporate extreme salvia feelings into real life, or better yet, encorporate emotion into my salvia trips?
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Why have to incorporate emotion? Just observe. And start writing as soon as you are able to so that you can remember as much as possible about what you saw.
 
Just observe
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The observer vanishes though.

I find salvia very difficult to recall, but I used to play one specific song when I took it. Listening to that song brings about an immediate intense recall.

Of drugs I've taken, nothing really compares to how bizarre salvia is. I can barely see it as a drug, more like some odd alien technology or the physical translation of an ancient pan-dimensional goddess.
 
Korn3x said:
. i've never tried salvia, but am somewhat apprehensive since it's a disassociative and i had one bad experience once with some robo.
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Salvia and it's kappa opioid activity is not at all comparable to NMDA antagonists (well DXM is also active at sigma receptors and some other stuff too). This is the problem of people calling them both dissociatives...it's like throwing alcohol and heroin together in a class 'cause they are downers without acknowledging that there's a difference between GABAergics and opiates.
 
Ha ha! Salvia is definitely like that.

I feel that these are the aspects associated very strongly with a salvia experience:

Time

Gravity

Archetypes

Merging/becoming with inanimate objects

There seems to be a particular focus on the physical laws of the universe. On all other psychedelics, no matter how transcendent it gets there is always the sense that that I am still obeying cosmic laws. With salvia, I feel that I have crossed that line.

There also seems to be an intense fulcrum around the archetypal construction of personal reality. In conjunction with the spacial-temporal disturbances, these archetypes can be 'seen' (or experienced) in excess of the physical laws you are comfortable with.

This puts it in another class of mind-altering substances altogether for me, alongside dissociatives and psychedelics. Just like dissociatives and psychedelics share aspects with one another, salvia space shares aspects with both of the aforementioned, but it is definitely in a category of substances by itself.

By the way willow, was it you who said you had combined this with DMT and 5-MEO-DMT? Please tell...
 
Never Knows Best said:
Salvia and it's kappa opioid activity is not at all comparable to NMDA antagonists (well DXM is also active at sigma receptors and some other stuff too). This is the problem of people calling them both dissociatives...it's like throwing alcohol and heroin together in a class 'cause they are downers without acknowledging that there's a difference between GABAergics and opiates.
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thanks for that. for the same reason i posted earlier is why i haven't tried my MXE yet (i've had it for a couple months maybe?). I'm afraid i'm going to go to that bad place again where everything is confusing as i'm warped through hyperspace. something about my last 2 DXM trips instilled a feeling of fear in me, and while i'm under the influence of it i desperately want it to be over and feel "safe" again. my last DXM trip i puked pretty rough too.

any comments on how MXE is different from DXM? maybe i'll be able to try it.
 
i feel like with salvia there is nothing to learn from or make sense from it.

It is quite simply to weird to enjoy and a horrible experience in my opinion as it leaves me feeling like I am mentally ill for a couple hours/maybe even days after.

Ive done it about 5 times and every time I have regretted it, one time after smoking I swear I felt like i'd lost my personality for a good few weeks/months maybe im not the same person anymore tbh since that 1 extreme trip I had on salvia x40.
I saw my sister (when she wasnt even out with us) in the back of the car I was in couldnt work out who I was or recognise any of the 'mates' I was with I had no recollection of who I was or my friends were and ended up putting my mate over the bonnet when I decided to drive off because I was sketching so badly.
 
Low doses feel like like being relly drunk in a bouncy, chaotic way. High doses are fucking nuts. Trippy, but not necessarily "psychedelic".
 
My salvia experience started with me not thinking it was gonna work, so I stood up. I fell back down and Im pretty sure I hit my head.

After that, it felt like I got picked up by a giant claw and thrown across the galaxy, landing in someone else's body and not knowing what the FUCK is going on for like 3-5 mins

after that I saw a giant tent slide thing... (IDK what the fuck..) and then I see giant stakes falling from the sky, heading towards me. Then one tries to go through me, I literally felt something pressing on my side VERY hard, trying to go through me.... so I grab the invisible "stake" with both hands and rip it off of me... then I realize that I had been screaming "WHAT THE FUCK" as loud as possible in my neighborhood... and that pretty much ended my trip

thats only a small portion of what happened though
 
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