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[LSDMDMA&AMP]

i've never done DPT.
mang i'm so pissed at what happened to the dose of T7 i had months ago
i'm excited that i'm gonna get to smoke glass finally though.

 

[PepperSocks]

Man, 'Nadian Mahfackah, the place to be. Mescaline is one I have yet to try, but for a long lasting phen trip I'd like to try 2C-T-7 first. It seems... Long enough.

T-7 didn't strike a chord with me, but I may try again someday. T-2 on the other hand is the best synthetic phen I've ever had.

You're in for a treat with mescaline. It's perhaps the most therapeutic, warm and cleansing one out there. It's so mellow, peaceful and empathic. It's likely got top spot for me. I've only ever had cactus extract, not synthetic, yet.

AFAIK, T-7 and mesc. are of similar duration. T-2 is shorter at around 6 hours. Mesc is 8-12. In terms of which I would try first, I'd go for mescaline while your receptors are still fresh. Your early trips are usually the best.

mang i'm so pissed at what happened to the dose of T7 i had months ago

What happened again? I remember someone stashing their stuff in a sewer drain but I don't think that was you.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

I blacked out on ambien and woke to find my dose of T7 (the bag) cut up and put into another bag.
i lost my T7

 

[PepperSocks]

Have a meeting with the Ambien walrus eh?

TBH, I have a mystery capsule that's been in my drawer for 3 years or so. I didn't baggie/label it when I decided to pass on the trip or chose something else. If I had to guess it's a well measured T-7 cap, about 25mg. I'm pretty sure that's what it is, I'd hate to see it go to waste. I might take the plunge later this week. Whatever it is it's certainly a proper dose of a 2C-x, so I may be surprised but not too surprised. If it's 2C-E I'd be ticked though.

One of the strangest GABAergic experiences I ever had was when I freaked out on mushrooms, took 1mg of alp. (0.5mg usually makes me pretty wonky). Nothing bad happened but I absolutely didn't remember a thing and there was evidence of someone having played with paper stuff on the coffee table. Strangest feeling I've had, complete amnesia. I've never blacked out from anything before but that was intense.

Well I had a good wank session. I should get to sleep but I'm still very awake. I just took some melatonin and hefty serving of zopiclone, it should do the trick, or at the least bring me down.

 

[Jesusgreen]

Does anyone else get an urge to take some DPT around halloween? I feel the vibe of ritual and spookyness to really go well with the substance, might have to postpone my "veggie TV" mushrooms/smoked rue tripping plans to indulge in the last of my DPT.

Interesting. Not quite, but I always feel like tripping in general on full moons. Who would've known, I'm a werewolf apparently.

Liquid measurement would work. I didn't think of that.

Never, nice suggestion with GHB/GBL, I never even considered those. Personally don't have a source for them but never really looked so I'm sure I could find them pretty quickly Not sure about legality here in Poland, over in the UK where I'm looking to move back they're both illegal but so are most of the things I take so

Socks, what's your experience with 2C-E? I seem to recall you posting in the latest thread about having horrible nausea and stuff on it, unless that was someone else. I was just wondering because I've found the trick with it is to move all the time. If I sit still or lay down I get an uncomfortable bodyload (not so much nausea for me, but just general unwell feeling, like I want to curl up and end the trip) but the moment I get moving, walking.. or dancing, hell yes, the trip takes a really awesome turn. Dancing on 2C-E is the shit, I've danced for 8 hours straight with a single 10 minute drink break before, and I'm usually the type to get worn out after a 10 minute walk rofl :D

 

[PepperSocks]

Socks, what's your experience with 2C-E? I seem to recall you posting in the latest thread about having horrible nausea and stuff on it, unless that was someone else. I was just wondering because I've found the trick with it is to move all the time. If I sit still or lay down I get an uncomfortable bodyload (not so much nausea for me, but just general unwell feeling, like I want to curl up and end the trip) but the moment I get moving, walking.. or dancing, hell yes, the trip takes a really awesome turn. Dancing on 2C-E is the shit, I've danced for 8 hours straight with a single 10 minute drink break before, and I'm usually the type to get worn out after a 10 minute walk rofl :D

Ya, that was me. It just doesn't click. Feels like poison to me. Some people in PD such as yourself seem to actually get a recreational high out of it, and will use it on a semi-regular basis like a stimulant. I couldn't imagine doing that. It definitely affects different people differently. I'm too chicken to try again. After two tries and both being hellish, it sorta brings in the "Fool me once... " theory.

Well, I'm a form of shredded. My heart's still beating quick and I generally feel weak.

Going to head into town in a bit to visit a buddy and have a beer.

 

[CombatWombat]

^ Funny, 2C-E was very comfortable for me to just lay down and get lost in thought on.

Well, I'll be set on tripping for a little while. Just found some DOC, 2C-B, and 2C-T-2. Really have to make myself wait until this weekend to dose... I want to today, but waiting will probably make it all the more pleasurable.

It'll be my first time taking a 2C-T-X. I've heard good things at 20mg. Wondering how it'll affect my stomach, though, I've had a history of general nausea with 2C's, and I've heard 2c-t-x's are harder on the body.

 

[yucatanboy2]

family visiting so all I've been doing is drinking. Wanna get back into my mxe sometime in the next month or so. I love how I can dose like 35-45 mg and it lasts a while, and I don't get that "I want more" feeling i get with other drugs, because i know it lasts a while.

 

[freehugs]

What are some of your guys experiences with DPT? Sounds exciting.

 

[SpaceCase]

I am new to the forum, I've never really done this before but very interesting.

 

[SpaceCase]

Going to see Shongle next weekend Cant wait to loose my mind! I will no doubt be in an alternate reality, never tried any of the 2C's that you speak of only your more common pshycedelics. Would love some mescaline or DMT

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

family visiting so all I've been doing is drinking. Wanna get back into my mxe sometime in the next month or so. I love how I can dose like 35-45 mg and it lasts a while, and I don't get that "I want more" feeling i get with other drugs, because i know it lasts a while.

If I ever get MXE, I imagine my dosage will be 10x that...on my first experience (well not all at once, but with dissociatives I want MOAR until I get to a pretty high level, kind of like with opiates). Then again maybe this one will be different.

Ya, that was me. It just doesn't click. Feels like poison to me. Some people in PD such as yourself seem to actually get a recreational high out of it, and will use it on a semi-regular basis like a stimulant. I couldn't imagine doing that. It definitely affects different people differently. I'm too chicken to try again. After two tries and both being hellish, it sorta brings in the "Fool me once... " theory.

Yeah, I don't know why I respond so well to it. I try to hold back though, if you do it too often it does get less exciting. I try to go for once or twice a month (unless I'm in a binge tripping mood). Though I will take a couple months off every so often. Actually my stim usage is similar, though for reasons of horrible comedown/giving my brain time to get things back in order.

 

[swilow]

What are some of your guys experiences with DPT? Sounds exciting.

I've never had words to describe psychedelics very well, but DPT is extremely bizarre. I'd compare it to DMT but truly, its not all that similar. DPT is a bit darker, a bit more alien. On the highest doses I've had I experienced the similar degree of reality shift as with DMT (ie. take drugs in quiet room, suddenly outside in the desert a million years ago), but with less stability- I recall zapping about through all these different places (whilst lying on my bed) and I kept zapping into a true OBE scene, watching myself lie on my bed and then suddenly zapping away again. Possibly the most interesting experience had me surrounded by the OM vibration, both hearing it and feeling it, and as I came back to reality for good, I saw the OM symbol really plainly behind my eyes.

Though, as amazing as it was, these experiences wer relatively meaningless; it was so strange and surreal that I can't imagine any purpose behind the trips, unlike with DMT.

I can safely say I'll not take DPT again; I think my ~25 experiences were more then enough.

I am new to the forum, I've never really done this before but very interesting.

Welcome

 

[swilow]

Oh yeah, Spacecase, where you seeing Shpongle? I saw them in january this year in melbourne, full band, and was fuckign superb though the sound wasn't great for a lot of it...Enjoy it man...

Rolling Stones- Gimme Shelter Killer.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Man, I gotta get up at 4:30am tomorrow and drive over somewhere to watch someone's dogs and feed them. Sleep deprivation ho.

Maybe I should explore the medicine and liquor cabinets for entertainment! %) That is a purely hypothetical musing~

 

[freehugs]

I've never had words to describe psychedelics very well, but DPT is extremely bizarre. I'd compare it to DMT but truly, its not all that similar. DPT is a bit darker, a bit more alien. On the highest doses I've had I experienced the similar degree of reality shift as with DMT (ie. take drugs in quiet room, suddenly outside in the desert a million years ago), but with less stability- I recall zapping about through all these different places (whilst lying on my bed) and I kept zapping into a true OBE scene, watching myself lie on my bed and then suddenly zapping away again. Possibly the most interesting experience had me surrounded by the OM vibration, both hearing it and feeling it, and as I came back to reality for good, I saw the OM symbol really plainly behind my eyes.

Still, it sounds like quite the experience.

 

[PepperSocks]

I am new to the forum, I've never really done this before but very interesting.

Welcome Fella

^ Funny, 2C-E was very comfortable for me to just lay down and get lost in thought on.

Well, I'll be set on tripping for a little while. Just found some DOC, 2C-B, and 2C-T-2. Really have to make myself wait until this weekend to dose... I want to today, but waiting will probably make it all the more pleasurable.

It'll be my first time taking a 2C-T-X. I've heard good things at 20mg. Wondering how it'll affect my stomach, though, I've had a history of general nausea with 2C's, and I've heard 2c-t-x's are harder on the body.

Try to take the 2C-T-2 before any of the others, or some other time one it's own. It's a really special one. 20mg is a perfect dose. A lot of people say it gives them terrible nausea but I find it about the same as any other 2C-x such as B or I. 2C-E had thousand fold worse nausea that T-2. Read up on some Erowid T-2 reports. You'll see a trend of it commonly bringing about truly glowing experiences. Murple's Sulphurous Samadhi is a good read too; it's in the links near the top of the T-2 vault.

Yeah, I don't know why I respond so well to it. I try to hold back though, if you do it too often it does get less exciting. I try to go for once or twice a month (unless I'm in a binge tripping mood). Though I will take a couple months off every so often. Actually my stim usage is similar, though for reasons of horrible comedown/giving my brain time to get things back in order.

I've hit a wall with stim usage. That MDPV experience and today's edgy-malaise has me literally and figuratively sick of stims. I took 10mg of amp before I headed into town to help me out and make it a bit nicer but it just exacerbated the anxiety. I had a good visit with my friend but I was definitely skittering and not feeling at peace. Then I contacted an old oxy hookup and secured a supply, it was nice seeing them again too, playing with their dog was fun.

I had an okay day but I was half-paranoid and my head was feeling very zappy. I have no desire to take a stimulant for a long time. I've been using amphetamine or ethylphenidate fairly regularly for a while and it's really starting to show it's fangs. Until today I was always driven to get little bit zingy. So done with that.

After today's uncomfort and lasting tachycardia I took some diaz and oxy when I got home along with some atenolol; my dad has heart meds. It feels really nice, I've never had this feeling of systemic anxiolysis.

I have to be done with stimulants because of the unbearable side-effects/come-down but empathogens are so dear to me. Unfortunately I know exactly how they make me feel when they're done working and I can't deal with that anymore. I'm interested in looking into MDAI, I've never done it. Off course people say it's boring due to no DA release but on the plus side; no DA release, negligible comedown/toxicity. Perhaps it's a more contemplative and calm experience.

I might still take that psychedelic experience this week but it has to be low dose and something that doesn't produce too much stimulation. I'm considering using a beta blocker in conjunction but I'll have to read up on it.

Do any of you have experience with beta blockers and psychedelics?

 

[CombatWombat]

Try to take the 2C-T-2 before any of the others, or some other time one it's own. It's a really special one. 20mg is a perfect dose. A lot of people say it gives them terrible nausea but I find it about the same as any other 2C-x such as B or I. 2C-E had thousand fold worse nausea that T-2. Read up on some Erowid T-2 reports. You'll see a trend of it commonly bringing about truly glowing experiences. Murple's Sulphurous Samadhi is a good read too; it's in the links near the top of the T-2 vault.

I have only a single dose of 2C-T-2 to sample (I was unsure about the chemical), while I have 230mg of 2C-B and 30mg of DOC. I wouldn't be combining all those. I have heard good things about t2 though.


Beta blockers do not sound like a good idea in any circumstances with psychedelics. I assume they have very unpredictable reactions.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Take a downer with your stim, that can mitigate most of the unpleasant aspects, and some more for the comedown. I rarely have anything on hand when I decide to get meth though (well, I can usually have booze, which can be effective,but sometimes I over do it. ACtually sometimes I'll drink pretty much the whole time on the stuff. Blackout + lots of meth = very erratic behavior. And there was that one time I drank a pint of wild turkey on an empty stomach to combat a comedown asap, may have also had some vodka, it did not end well, not to mention the next day x_x. Benzo-y things work well, as does H). Really strong stims are best left to ~one weekend per month, for me at least.

No idea about combining psychs with betablockers. You could just go with a 4-substituted tryptamine or something, that wouldn't be to stimulative I imagine.

 

[PepperSocks]

No idea about combining psychs with betablockers. You could just go with a 4-substituted tryptamine or something, that wouldn't be to stimulative I imagine.

Agreed on 4-sub-trypts being non-adrenergic compared to phens but they dig into my psyche too much, I just can't deal with that right now. Upon thinking for 30 seconds, phenibut + 2C-C sounds promising for my purposes, with a low diaz dose if required.