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Why did people jump down his throat for being gay or even mentioning it? what difference does it make? none.

Be warned yeah, meth is a slippery slope into oblivion, some of us aren't as easily swayed into it''s addiction though, for me it's likely the horrible comedowns and not liking being awake for several days at a time that stops me from using.
 
Why did people jump down his throat for being gay or even mentioning it?
No-one actually did that :D
AyahuascaSeeker mentioned it, but only to ask why it was important, not to criticise it.
It's all good :)


collier, please please be careful with meth. I fear that you are drastically underestimating how addictive it is. Even if you've never become addicted to a substance before, that doesn't mean you won't get addicted to meth.
 
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As everyone has said, BE VERY CAREFUL. It will grab you by the balls before you know it, can I suggest sniffing it, plugging it or using it orally? Its less addictive/moreish and less corrosive. I find smoking to be more addictive than injecting and only seems to push the addictive factor up a notch. I find I can go through a point or 2 in a night if im plugging/sniffing or IV'ing(not suggesting you try that) when id easily go through half a g smoking. Yes smoking it is great but really bad for your lungs(as well as everything else) and in the end if your using it for sex it will do the same thing. Plugging meth(fill up a needleless syringe with 1-2ml water, mix up meth and squirt up ur bum lol the high feels better than smoking imo, trust me just try it)
1 point= 0.1g/100mg and if its good stuff that should be plenty for one night if as you say you only have 2 puffs. Though ive had stuff where half a gram(5points) has done less than 0.15g( 1 1/2pts) it really varies but there has been some great stuff around lately. I was getting points not long ago that I probably would have OD'd off if I shot the whole point, was smoking quarter points at a time and getting at least 2 big puffs of each quarter point(for those in the know I really think it was 4-MAR). Some stuff smokes up a lot more too, sometimes you'll get 10 puffs from a point sometimes 2-3 and you know how good it is by how much brown/black crap is left in the pipe, it all depends on what its cut with.

I am a 21 year old gay guy from Sydney(well close enough) and have used meth for a few years now. Please dont think im naeive coz im young because I can gaurantee you ive seen more than most 60 year olds. Anyway meth is probably the most dangerous drug on the scene(and ive been a hardcore heroin/other drugs injector/addict for many years and have tried more drugs than I can remember, im clean-ish now though) and a lot of the guys who use it tend to turn into seedy, sleazy assholes than bareback with no regrets. Im not saying this is every gay guy who uses meth(or even most guys) coz im not like that but I have got myself into some pretty hairy situations due to meth(and me, cant blame the meth). I really hope you dont bareback at all mate.
Anyway yes meth is great for sex but I find im more likely to do something stupid(like BB etc) while on meth rather than E, meth and GHB is an amazing combo, I wish we had more if it up here in sydney, I can never find it but im sure it would more than double the risk of participating in risky behavior. If you do want to try G just do so around some mates in a quiet setting, G makes me hornier than any other drug, sure you can fuck for ages on meth and it does enhance feelings n such but G makes me so horny that its like theres so much horniness my body cant contain it. I can remember walking through a shopping centre with a mate and just wanting to fuck like every single person in there hahaha. G is also really nice for coming down on and relaxing the next day, its one of my favourite drugs(meth is not :p)

Just be careful, meth is everywhere in the scene, dont let someone persuade you into injecting it, if someone wants to give you G make sure they only give you 2ml to start off with and watch them dose you coz there are still cunts around that OD people on G and rape them. Stay safe and know what your doing and what your getting. I like to bring my own drugs out to be safe, obviously theres those times when someone offers you a line, a pill or a charge and im not going to lie most of the time I take it but ive always got close friends with me. If in doubt, throw it out or just say no thanks ;) dont want to hear of you dying just coz some fuckwit wanted to fuck you. Sorry if im a little incoherent, just been on a bender and recovering today so sorry if u need any other questions answered about drugs/gay stuff pm me :) .... BTW English accents are HOT! hehe

Id love to have a chat with you mate, been thinking about checking out a sex on site venue but not sure whether I want to go alone, ive chickened out too many times lol
:p PM me or ill get to you mate.
 
Sorry a bit off-topic here but I've noticed when I use meth I go a bit limp dicked and I'm never in the mood to fuck... what's the deal? Is this just a case of the drug effects everyone differently or am I doing something wrong? I just get intensely into drawing or creative shit but when it comes to fucking or going out, I am just too amped and my attention deviates. I end up looking at the room and listening intently on all the ambient sounds or I keep wanting to play guitar.
 
Haha, you're not doing anything wrong. I find the stronger the meth the more content you are to do nothing. It's like the 'reward' is so strong just for sitting there that you don't want to interrupt it by doing anything. Sometimes I have sat in the same place for days not even wanting to go to the toilet in case I 'miss something' 8)

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I was getting points not long ago that I probably would have OD'd off if I shot the whole point, was smoking quarter points at a time and getting at least 2 big puffs of each quarter point(for those in the know I really think it was 4-MAR).

Did you test it? It could have been 4mar but it may just have been good quality meth, you will get 15-20 full puffs from a point of 99%+ pure methamphetamine.
 
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Here's a website I stumbled across ages ago, it's meth information with a gay focus AFAIK - http://www.tweaker.org/home.html

Keep in mind it's a US website so lots of stuff will be different.

As others have said, it's not worth messing with. Meth has messed up lots of people, including those with great will power. Check out some of the experiences on erowid under: addiction+habituation.

You'd be better off doing heroin IMO.

Here's a link to some experiences - http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Methamphetamine_Addiction_Habituation.shtml

Lots of people start out like you and end up ruined so just keep that in mind and do some more research :)
 
I have only ever bought meth on three separate occasions totalling 4 points, 2 points were shared with a couple of friends the rest I had by myself... I tried to keep it for weekend/parting but quickly started to have it during the week. At first it was once during the week but quickly grew from there. At week 3 or so I had it at the start of every week day... I wasn't smoking much but it defiantly was forming into a habit. After that week the following Saturday I realized what I was getting into and smoked the rest of my stash (and all the contents of the CP) luckily since then I haven't had it but the temptation is always present especially while drinking.

Be careful man take care! My reasoning behind doing it during the week was like something you said... I felt as though I was totally in control.
 
i understand the addiction and the many posts recommending otherwise however am I the only one that doesn't like Meth? I was injecting speed at the time meth hit Sydney and tried it a few times only to have it feel like a very dirty amphetamine like high. Despite my addictive personality I definitely wasn't bitten by the meth monster.
 
Sorry to be rude, but why the fuck does it make a difference if your gay or straight? Do drugs effect homosexuals in a different way? Pardon my ignorance, but was that really necessary?

That's been going through my head this whole time.. but I felt rude to ask.
And I feel rude and petty now replying to your post, but whatever, I felt it was an irrelevant thing to add, perhaps the guy just likes to express himself.
 
Any other suggestions for safer available drugs in Melbourne that will provide a similar high for the activities I want to use it for??

I am wondering if some of the weed I bought last year is laced with some shit, last time i had some which was many months ago now got me totally off my face, totally different to stuff i have had in the UK, i lost all orientation to time, I was sure a cat walked past my head, all sorts of shit. Totally irrelevant tangent...

you could try amyl, I thin it's called jungle juice at sex shops.
I personally imagine it would be very strange to have a hit of and then try having sex, but I've heard it was popular and commonly done in the gay community.

As far as the weed is concerned, that does sound odd to me. Did it taste different? I've heard of people selling the legal stuff as the real shit. Which I find really strange because it's normally priced higher and already chopped up. But I have heard of this happening.

Sometimes I have sat in the same place for days not even wanting to go to the toilet in case I 'miss something' 8

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lol.

i understand the addiction and the many posts recommending otherwise however am I the only one that doesn't like Meth? I was injecting speed at the time meth hit Sydney and tried it a few times only to have it feel like a very dirty amphetamine like high. Despite my addictive personality I definitely wasn't bitten by the meth monster.
I didn't like meth the first few times I tried it. I was expecting this incredible euphoria from the stigma around meth. But when I'd previously had MDMA I was expecting so much more from meth.
Having said that though, with the Ecstasy drought striking and my friends always having meth and handing out lines to me (and I am NOT the type of person to say no to free drugs ;) ). But even whilst I was enjoying the meth all that much, after a short time I would find myself looking forward to racking up more and more.

I'm grateful I was full time at uni when I realised this, otherwise I could've found myself fiending quite easily.
Now I love meth, still infinitely inferior to ecstasy, but it is great for a good night or a few out on the town.
I've never had sex on meth, I reckon I could, but it's never really been a priority for me when i'm on the gear. The next day after a good sleep though I could have sex and be good to go again soon after and repeat this for the whole day. 8)
 
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I have only ever bought meth on three separate occasions totalling 4 points, 2 points were shared with a couple of friends the rest I had by myself... I tried to keep it for weekend/parting but quickly started to have it during the week. At first it was once during the week but quickly grew from there. At week 3 or so I had it at the start of every week day... I wasn't smoking much but it defiantly was forming into a habit. After that week the following Saturday I realized what I was getting into and smoked the rest of my stash (and all the contents of the CP) luckily since then I haven't had it but the temptation is always present especially while drinking.

Be careful man take care! My reasoning behind doing it during the week was like something you said... I felt as though I was totally in control.

4 points and you think you've got a habit? I hate meth and I'll smoke 4 points to myself faster than you can blink your eyes. Certainly much faster than you (a few hours to a night tops if its really good).

Best to be careful, however I think you need to check out your paranoia level for your personality.
 
hey thanks for all the replies, have been away for a few weeks overseas. Will try a point one more time and see how i go.
 
hmmmmm. i'm gonna play the devil's advocate here and go ahead and say this.

Dude. I believe in you. You are totally in control and I have faith in you. You def do not have an addictive personality.

I reckon EVEN if you try meth a few more times you wont get addicted.

It really isn't that addictive in my honest honest to god/bhudda/alah's opinion :)

please continue posting as each time u indulge in Tina'
 
Hate to agree with headdah here but i didnt seem to find it as addictive as its been made out by most of my circle of friends and on bluelight. Many of my friends are heavily reliant on the stuff to feel normal. For me i just couldnt stand the all nighters and feeling depleted of happiness. I know a mate who asked the same thing, " how can people do this everyday?" think maybe its a personality thing?
 
Hate to agree with headdah here but i didnt seem to find it as addictive as its been made out by most of my circle of friends and on bluelight. Many of my friends are heavily reliant on the stuff to feel normal. For me i just couldnt stand the all nighters and feeling depleted of happiness. I know a mate who asked the same thing, " how can people do this everyday?" think maybe its a personality thing?

OK its been a while so I thought i should add an update.

So far I have tried a .1 and it lasted about a month. Used it on 3 occasions, each time in a party and play situation, was pretty good. The first time I smoked it and the other times I bumped it rectally. Much better bumped than smoked. I liked the high, good buzz that lasted a long time and then kept going about 6 hours or so. First couple of times the come down was not too bad, a few muscle twitches and some difficulty in sleeping. I took some health food store herbal sleepers to help with that and it seemed to work.

The last time I pnp'd I took the last bit i had, approx 30mg and bumped it at around 2000hrs in a sex on site venue. Had an awesome time, great buzz and kept me going for hours. Hooked up with a few guys, all safe sex a few tried to bare back me but was in control and insisted on condoms. Last guy I hooked up with could see I was wired since I had been going for hours and invited me to a room for a pick me up. He had alot of tina on him and we had a fair amount of smoke and got down to some fun. Time went very quickly, we got very chatty then it was 8 am, closing time. Still wired and horny as sin I got on a tram and went to another venue and stayed there until 1pm. So ended up being a huge session. Also forgot to say that I also drank some GHB, only about 2 mls spread out through the night, absolutely no alcohol and only noticed a few peaks after taking the G.

The come down was the hardest this time, more muscle twitches and felt fairly dry. Thought I was good at keeping up with fluids, got home for a shower, 2 bananas, 750 ml of isotonic drinks and a lie down in bed. Ended up sleeping until 6pm. Took a sleeping tablet to sleep and slept most of the night and just felt tired since. That was Saturday, had a nap on sunday and now feel almost back to normal.

Will I try it again? Certainly will. But will leave it for at least a month before I buy some more, I can see that it is addictive and is risky but I am trying to minimise harm to myself by setting limits, only buying small amounts, staying safe as I can and following advice from people on this board.

believe it or not, I am a health professional and should no better. Have a decent home, a partner and good friends, no one knows what I get up to on the side. I kind of like leading a double life.
 
Hey thanks for the reply will try the different keyboards,the stock standard one on my asus transformer is a little slow.

I asked about the gram because i know of a guy who can get a g for a certain price, i know we are not to discuss sourcing or pricing on the forums so cant specify. So is a point one smoke? What is the recommended dose for a noob, i know it depends on weight metabolism, etc. What amount is it usual to buy a dose in?

Thanks for the quick relly and the info.

when i smoke meth i like to put around 35mg in the pipe and smoke it as slowly as possable.the trick is with meth that most people miss is letting the meth re crystalise.once you heat the meth into liquid you roll it around the pipe to it spreads out everywhere let it cool for a whille and it will look alot difffrent.keep the lighter a fair distsnce (dont worry you will get the hang of how far to put the lighter to the pipe in the future.Just dont let the flame touch the glass or you will fuck up your product)also if you see you meth bubbling that means that it is burning and is wasting more once u see bubbles lower the flame inhale deep and hold while swirling the pipe allowing the meth to spread around the pipe.repeat this until your unable to get any smoke from the pipe.If you have good you will know when you stuff is gone cos it just stops smoking really really fast.lately in australia there has been some new cutting agent that stays til the end and kind of turns reds and tastes fucking awful,burn that shit off wait for the pipe to cool and pack more shit in and keep smoking.

just be very careful with meth man it all starts off as fun and turns into a daily need and you do things you would never imagen of doing to get your fix.

look out mate have fun but be careful PLUR :)
 
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