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I am a gay guy and a few weeks ago in a sex on site venue a guy i was with introduced me to meth. Had a couple of deep inhales and felt great for a few hours, felt well horny but in control. Had an awesome time definitely what to try it again. Used eccies in the uk and sometime smoke wead but the meth was better, was nice feeling in control.


I Didnt get the come down others have described.

Just want to know how it works, what is a point?. Is a gram alot? Lots of other questions but not able to due to site rules.

Felt awesome getting it on high on meth. Luckily i dont get addicted to stuff,i should know better too as a health professional!.

Sorry for shitty grammer/spelling, my asus tablet is not easy to type on.
 
Hello and welcome to bluelight.

Just to answer some of your questions. A point is one tenth of a gram (100mg). This is the standard unit in which meth is dealt to users. 1 gram in my opinion is alot of gear if it is good quality.
 
Hey thanks for the reply will try the different keyboards,the stock standard one on my asus transformer is a little slow.

I asked about the gram because i know of a guy who can get a g for a certain price, i know we are not to discuss sourcing or pricing on the forums so cant specify. So is a point one smoke? What is the recommended dose for a noob, i know it depends on weight metabolism, etc. What amount is it usual to buy a dose in?

Thanks for the quick relly and the info.
 
Don't buy a gram straight up - the tendency to re-dose can be strong.

The questions you're asking are highly dependent on quality, and quality can vary wildly.

I suggest taking it slow, take only enough to enjoy yourself and refrain from re-dosing unnecessarily. You will soon find your required dosage. A point should be more than enough for a newbie to enjoy yourself for the night - don't purchase larger amounts.

One last thing - consider getting into this drug at all. Consider it seriously, please. Meth usage is a slippery slope, and does not end well for a lot of people. Everyone is entitled to make their own choices with their life and body, I just hope you are educated on what you're playing with here. If not, get reading before buying.
 
Mel22 said:
One last thing - consider getting into this drug at all. Consider it seriously, please. Meth usage is a slippery slope, and does not end well for a lot of people. Everyone is entitled to make their own choices with their life and body, I just hope you are educated on what you're playing with here. If not, get reading before buying.
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THIS. You would be wise to stay far, far away from methamphetamine. This drug erodes self-control and there is a massive risk that you will become addicted to it if you use it regularly. Don't fool yourself by thinking you can get away with using it even once a week or once a month. You can easily lose all control and find yourself having to use the drug everyday to function somewhat normally. Even though you feel you do not get addicted to things easily, methamphetamine is a completely different animal. It is a highly potent drug that destroys the cells in your brain that cause pleasure, so with continued use, you will find it harder and harder to feel pleasure without taking the drug. Methamphetamine permanently damages your brain. It may be enjoyable to use now, but you will pay the price for that short-term temporary pleasure with long-term depression and anhedonia.
 
yeah I know enough about the risks, and certainly plan to only use very rarely, and really only once every few months or so. It will be coupled with sex, gay guys party and play alot and it feels good, sure I know that it increases risk of more dangerous types of sex but I liked it cos i felt in control. I would rather use 'e' but cant get it here, and dont have any contacts. It used to be cheaper than alcohol in the UK, and was good for sex but did lose some time when taking it, and made me far to friendly and easy to get into sex that would be unsafe. Cocaine I would imagine would be a safer drug to use but again no contacts and its probably pricey over here.

Ice certainly has its risks, and can be messy. Another option is ghb but have seen too many people at work totally fucked on it....screaming fighting full on crap. Suppose you could say the same for the meth, but I plant to be sensible and limit the amounts, two deep puffs seem to get me in a very merry state for most of the day and I didnt have any problems falling asleep at the end of the day. I think using it sparely would give my body enough time to recover.

thanks again for all the replies, any advice is more than welcome...
 
collier said:
yeah I know enough about the risks, and certainly plan to only use very rarely, and really only once every few months or so.
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How do you know you'll be able to do this? You don't have any experience on it, and as such have no idea whether this is likely or not. There's only one way to find out, and if you're one of the people who can't control it, well, you'll get out of control.

It's upto you whether to keep using or not, it's your life, but try and be more realistic about it.

collier said:
Luckily i dont get addicted to stuff
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This is very unrealistic.
 
collier said:
yeah I know enough about the risks, and certainly plan to only use very rarely, and really only once every few months or so
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That is what you say now, but the more you use the drug, the more your mind is changed by the drug, and self-control can easily go out the window. You might not be able to imagine yourself becoming addicted, but there is a huge risk that it will happen. Your present desire to use methamphetamine again shows that the drug has already left an imprint on your mind. If you found it pleasurable the first time you used it, of course you are going to want to do it again. That is how our mind works. We cannot help but seek pleasure. The problem is that recreational use of methamphetamine (and many other drugs of abuse, perhaps all of them) does not have any long-term benefit. Unlike other rewarding things such as getting a job promotion or having sex, methamphetamine use does not improve your life. Getting a job promotion gives you more power and financial security. Having sex is hardwired to be pleasurable because if it was not pleasurable, then humans would not have sex and people would not have children, and the human race would become extinct.

Taking drugs like methamphetamine does not serve any purpose. The reason it is enjoyable is because the drug binds inside neurons and directly causes the release of massive amounts of dopamine. It is that simple. The drug is tricking your brain into thinking your are doing a highly rewarding activity when you take the drug. In actual fact, you are merely taking a drug, and this drug will make it harder and harder for your brain to find pleasure in normally rewarding activities such as sex, food, hobbies, etc.
 
no dont think it does, and sorry if your offended by the gay shit. Its well known that some gay guys like to party and play on meth. Guess i was explaining how when and why I tried it.....AyahuascaSeeker13 you seem offended by the 'homosexual' references while others are more concerned about the choice of party drug and all the risks going with it. "but was that really necessary"....was what necessary ? Not my problem if you dont like gays, i was not too graphic at all and have read much worse on here, you dont have to read the thread. Also saying 'sorry to be rude' is alot like saying 'i'm not racist but' the sorry is not an excuse to be rude.

Yeah I totally hear you and I should know better I work professionally in a field that puts me in contact with users when they are at there worst. I know guys who keep usage down to a small amount every so often and still function as reasonably healthy members of society and enjoy life. Yeah i dont fully know how it will change me, but i have tried alcohol, nicotine, ecstasy, wead and never got addicted to it and I know meth is in a different league but using it once in a while should minimise harm while still allowing me to get my rocks off.
 
Just use it recreationally once in awhile, smoking it is the most addictive way to have it though just bare that in mind.
 
meth use in relation to the gay community is undoubtedly a different social and health issue than meth use in the straight community.
there are very real concerns about the use of meth and the hyper-sexuality it can arouse, and the various risks this can entail, in terms of safe sex and so on.

i think the context of drug use in a social network consisting of gay men is different to meth use in the wider australian community, yes.
in terms of the question at hand, the context is important.

and in regards to the information the OP is seeking, the more we understand about his situation, the more relevant information and advice we are able to give.

i totally agree with the above responses - the belief that "i don't get addicted to stuff" is all too familiar to some of us, and no doubt laughable to many of us who have used meth. not to be condescending either - but as you noticed, it is some powerfully enjoyable stuff (to begin with).

in terms of not experiencing a 'come-down' - i have encountered lot of drugs that i did not get negative residual effects from - but usually only the first couple of times i used them.
i didn't get a hangover until i'd been drunk a few times, i didn't feel too fragile the day after my first couple of acid trips either...it's pretty standard, really.
in my experience, the more you use something, the more negative effects start to emerge.

i don't want to sound negative or 'just say no' or like some kind of drug snob, but i will (from first hand experience with this shit) tell you to be careful.
meth is very addictive and has a bad reputation for a good reason.
whilst it may be an accepted part of partying in (parts of) the contemporary gay social scene, this doesn't mean it is safe.
obviously it is your life and your body, but meth can be very, very damaging.
part of the problem - as you've already noticed, is that you feel like you're in control. you're not; it's deceiving.
meth is the kind of drug that makes you feel like you're totally normal, but just functioning at a higher rate. this really is what is so dangerous about it.
just don't forget you're playing with a very addictive drug, and play safe.
 
There really is no safe level of meth use, but if you are going to use it, maybe you should set a limit now, and never go over that limit. Of course that will be easier said than done, but maybe you can tell your friends/family about your limit and ask them if they will be prepared to intervene in future if you exceed this limit. Sometimes when people become addicted to drugs, nothing will get between them and the drug, and they will do anything they can to acquire the drug. You may not be able to envision it now, but you should be prepared for the possibility that you will turn to crime to fund your meth habit. Meth can destroy a person, and they can become mere shells of their former self.

What is so great about meth? When you strip away the dopamine-releasing properties of the drug, all you are left with is a pile of crystals. Do you really want a pile of crystals to define your purpose for living? Our brains and minds are not meant to be exposed to methamphetamine. This toxin has been proven to kill brain cells. You are throwing your life away by using meth.

Do you have any family or friends? Imagine how devastated they will feel when they find out that you have become addicted to meth. Does the risk of addiction frighten you at all? Are you concerned about the permanent changes that meth will cause in your brain? Are you worried at all about the risk of depression, anxiety, and psychosis? How about the financial impact on your life? You could save the money for a holiday, or whatever else you would find enjoyable. You have choices in life. Deciding to use meth is, in all respects, a poor choice. Don't ruin your life by using meth. Just say no.

I suggest you talk to a professional. If there is some underlying psychological issue at play, then you should get help, because the decision you are planning to make is a very harmful and dangerous one.
 
thestudent14 said:
Just use it recreationally once in awhile, smoking it is the most addictive way to have it though just bare that in mind.
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yep, i totally agree.
seems to be the most socially accepted route of administration, but i found it more addictive than intravenous injection.
5 or 6 years on, i'm still really grateful to have put my meth-using days behind me.
you'll find no shortage of methamphetamine horror stories both here and elsewhere - this stuff doesn't get a bad reputation for nothing.
 
spacejunk said:
meth use in relation to the gay community is undoubtedly a different social and health issue than meth use in the straight community.
there are very real concerns about the use of meth and the hyper-sexuality it can arouse, and the various risks this can entail, in terms of safe sex and so on.

i think the context of drug use in a social network consisting of gay men is different to meth use in the wider australian community, yes.
in terms of the question at hand, the context is important.

and in regards to the information the OP is seeking, the more we understand about his situation, the more relevant information and advice we are able to give.

i totally agree with the above responses - the belief that "i don't get addicted to stuff" is all too familiar to some of us, and no doubt laughable to many of us who have used meth. not to be condescending either - but as you noticed, it is some powerfully enjoyable stuff (to begin with).

in terms of not experiencing a 'come-down' - i have encountered lot of drugs that i did not get negative residual effects from - but usually only the first couple of times i used them.
i didn't get a hangover until i'd been drunk a few times, i didn't feel too fragile the day after my first couple of acid trips either...it's pretty standard, really.
in my experience, the more you use something, the more negative effects start to emerge.

i don't want to sound negative or 'just say no' or like some kind of drug snob, but i will (from first hand experience with this shit) tell you to be careful.
meth is very addictive and has a bad reputation for a good reason.
whilst it may be an accepted part of partying in (parts of) the contemporary gay social scene, this doesn't mean it is safe.
obviously it is your life and your body, but meth can be very, very damaging.
part of the problem - as you've already noticed, is that you feel like you're in control. you're not; it's deceiving.
meth is the kind of drug that makes you feel like you're totally normal, but just functioning at a higher rate. this really is what is so dangerous about it.
just don't forget you're playing with a very addictive drug, and play safe.
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thanks for an awesome reply, its fair and balanced, and I am willing to listen and will be very careful.

on a side note was also considering shelving as an administration option, have heard it is better??

Any other suggestions for safer available drugs in Melbourne that will provide a similar high for the activities I want to use it for??

I am wondering if some of the weed I bought last year is laced with some shit, last time i had some which was many months ago now got me totally off my face, totally different to stuff i have had in the UK, i lost all orientation to time, I was sure a cat walked past my head, all sorts of shit. Totally irrelevant tangent...
 
Luckily i dont get addicted to stuff
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If all you've tried is MDMA pills & weed I'm not sure you can comfortably say that. I do think recreational meth use is possible without it being an issue, but don't go in thinking you're immune.
 
collier said:
I am wondering if some of the weed I bought last year is laced with some shit, last time i had some which was many months ago now got me totally off my face, totally different to stuff i have had in the UK, i lost all orientation to time, I was sure a cat walked past my head, all sorts of shit. Totally irrelevant tangent...
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No, you're just intolerant to weed.

Collier it's quite obvious to me that you are completely naive to methamphetamine effects, but you also have the detrimental mindstate that you're in control of something you don't even understand. How do you expect to be able to avoid addiction to methamphetamine when you have zero experience of what that involves?
 
There is some extremely potent weed around now. Your weed wasn't laced.

I really feel the need to echo footscrazy's post. Methamphetamine is seductive. Its more than addictive, its seductive. It will destroy all your ability to reason.
 
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