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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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Are you guys alright @darksidesam & @xamkou?

Mxe does lose its luster after a while... if you let it... I've found that as long as I satay active and productive that the effects mimic my mood... but if I'm being a screw-off then it makes me feel as such...

Please don't kill anyone... if you wanna talk about anything just shoot me a PM :)
 
Nasty nasty depressive suicidal thoughts and utter feeling and realisation of loneliness.
No worries. Think about how you can fix it.

I found this to be pretty normal on MXE. I once had such sad thoughts about my friend, at 3 am in the morning... And I wrote her... A damn letter.
 
Like I said, it's a dopaminergic drug and it's going to eventually efect your mood. PCP and derivatives are known for inducing manic throughts, expecially with long term use or high doses. It's not a miracle antidepressant. Long term usage will bite you in the ass.

There is some research suggesting that the antidepressant effects of ketamine only show in small, infrequent doses and that abuse of ketamine leads itself to depression and addiction eventually.

I also refuse to believe you can tell the difference between MXE and tiletamine solely by taste. Test kits, test kits, test kits.

The lonliness and frustration that can appear are usually signs you are neglecting your social or familial life to do MXE instead. (Either that or they're the comedown effects that people say don't exist - this kind of emotional stuff is common with stimulants). Please try to keep a sense of perspective, and if your trips are too draining and you end up feeling burt out and lonely, give the mxe a break and wor on making things better before you totally lose the plot.
 
i have noticed that one quite potent side effect of this drug is the rationalisation of suicide. this effect has not only happened to me several times but to other people i know as well. but on the flip side it gives very strong anti depressant effects as well, it's a very strange chemical. also on high doses it feels very smacky, like i've just done a big blast of heroin or something. after a few grams purchased, i think it's a good thing this drug is getting banned and i will not be purchasing any more of it.
 
im not taking any more of it any time soon, ive only did 10mg about 10 days ago,
then 20mg a , then 40mg in many days apart spaces

@Limitbreaker
i cant fix it, its dug out some deep personal feelings and something ive done and regret and the guilt is killing me
 
What you mean it's getting banned?

Test kits, test kits, test kits.
Nigga, please. No offence to niggas whatsoever.

I haven't encountered a single test that would help me against Tiletamine scams. Especially that most scams are MXE:T mixes to maybe fool the tests...

And yeah it's possible to differ one from another by trying it, effects are quite distinguishable. Tiletamine IS more salty.

i cant fix it, its dug out some deep personal feelings and something ive done and regret and the guilt is killing me
I think you can.

When I said about the letter, I really did send it, and told her about all my feelings. The reason of this letter; MXE induced a thought in my brain that she MIGHT be dead, and I kept looking for the causes of that and possible "proofs". Guess what, for me the proof that she's dead was that she didn't come online on facebook for 9 days.
 
few tokes of mj have calmed me a little ,
Damn ive not felt like this since before the days i knew about ketamine.. but i didnt barely take any of it
 
Be safe. I believe its use safe as long as it's infrequent. Big doses for the trips or small antidepressive doses, doesn't matter.
 
ohh my im losng the fucking plot im soo angry why is people being negative to me... (not ive not taking any mxe since saturday) fucking hell these racing thoughts of killing someone now.
I recently experienced extreme rage on MXE, but I went into it voluntarily and directed it at a virtual target (Having felt it, I sympathize with you as I imagine if it was involuntary the momentum of it would be frightening).

My girlfriend was gone for a few days so I dosed MXE and popped in "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," just because I felt a Halloween sorta mood. But as the carnage approached I could feel a demented joy welling up, like a calling from the sub-conscious. I was alone in the house, so I decided I would use the coming scenes to explore my dark side (to as extreme a reach as possible without externally acting on what I felt). It's my personal philosophy that the best way to control negative emotions is to start from a place of stability, then use media in conjunction with psychedelics to evoke the feelings in contained but still very powerful ways. It's my hope that in this way it's possible to learn to navigate the emotions during a time and in an environment that doesn't risk dire consequences -- to understand, intellectualize, and, ultimately, better control them if they should take me by surprise "in real life." I don't know of any other realistic way to learn to manage emotions so powerful preemptively, and would feel irresponsible if I didn't try.

The rage built and built, and I embraced it and pushed on at every new plateau. I peaked at a level of manic sadism, a bug-eyed, shuddering, gnashing, and drooling (all literally) lust for the death on screen. I was sucking in short, toothy, breaths like I was trying to cannibalize the moments. It was fascinating to find the MXE mania could express itself in a way so contrary to the peacefully innocent orgy of bliss that my best MXE experiences consist of. It was an orgasm of terror and hate, and I was searching and learning it. I was feeling the ecstatic rage of a psychopath in me -- presumably the one somewhere in all of us (certainly in most males, or else how can we explain homicidal-rapist soldiers or the sadistic prison guards in the Stanford Prison Experiment who were perfectly normal undergrads just days before? We're all that one special condition away from being a monster, but maybe we can find it within us first, and thereby hope to tame it.)

Then, at the end of the film, it just went away. I started laughing in amazement. It may have been the most satisfying laughter of my life. It wasn't a catharsis at having expressed such rage, but joy in that it was possible to feel something so horrific and then snap back into contentment, joy in knowing that such a delirious, marauding hate really never was in control, in seeing and knowing how truly silly it all was.
 
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Mxe, like all dissociative's at stronger dosages, tends to immerse your life... everything and everyone is alive and you have to find your balance and figure out how to make your world perfect without disrupting someone elses masterpiece...
 
Anyway on another front....

this last weekend I effectively substituted MXE for alcohol and I did not touch one drink the whole weekend, which for me I can't think of any weekend the whole last year I ever went without a drink the whole weekend. This stuff could help reprogram one's life's routines and or habits, even outlooks/opinions. Of course when you only have nasty alcohol one could argue that alcohol is better than nothing.

"Better a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" forgot who said it though, but maybe "better MXE inside of me than a frontal lobotomy?" heh?
 
Sorry bout that peoples im okay now.

i used Mxe on its own before, and i was fine days after.
ive used ketamine on its own Many a many a times and felt great after.

Maybe mixing the two of them ultimately led to a bit of a depressed state.
I noticed a manic episode earlier, followed by that depressive crash.

So perhaps Ket and mxe = bad idea
 
Like I said, it's a dopaminergic drug and it's going to eventually efect your mood. PCP and derivatives are known for inducing manic throughts, expecially with long term use or high doses. It's not a miracle antidepressant. Long term usage will bite you in the ass.

There is some research suggesting that the antidepressant effects of ketamine only show in small, infrequent doses and that abuse of ketamine leads itself to depression and addiction eventually.

I also refuse to believe you can tell the difference between MXE and tiletamine solely by taste. Test kits, test kits, test kits.

The lonliness and frustration that can appear are usually signs you are neglecting your social or familial life to do MXE instead. (Either that or they're the comedown effects that people say don't exist - this kind of emotional stuff is common with stimulants). Please try to keep a sense of perspective, and if your trips are too draining and you end up feeling burt out and lonely, give the mxe a break and wor on making things better before you totally lose the plot.

In fact I had a real problem losing the plot with Ketamine, it started off manic and eventually went paranoid-schizo. This was a huge addiction. Took a break from all drugs for several months after I quit to regain a proper mindset.

MXE only made me somewhat manic if I let it, and that was early in my experimentation. I realize it's only been 9 months or so, but it's been 9 months of pure learning, to be better, to do better, to feel better, to set better limits and not limit myself at the same time.

Naturally, I have been somewhat of a negative and lazy person. I say "have been" because I am learning to change this. Anyway, for me, the easily controllable hypomania that MXE delivers is.. and believe me I wish I wasn't saying this in all honesty on a widely read message board.. something like a miracle antidepressant.

I'm sure for a lot of people this drug will make them straight up manic. And for a lot of people this drug will make them dissociate. For some people it could make them anti-social, or paranoid. I don't know for sure, but I suspect for whatever reason this stuff just might be the "right medicine" for certain people.

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Regarding the taste, Tiletamine and Methoxetamine are quite different, it doesn't take anything more than an acquainted palette to distinguish these drugs. You can tell salt and pepper apart by taste, no? ;)

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I'm wondering if long term use will bite me in the ass, and how. This is part of why I haven't had any in two weeks. I realize this is probably an non-sustainable habit. Although it sure has seemed sustainable. Even my tolerance is only moderate after 8-9 months and ~75 grams. This calculates to around 200mg a day (calculations adjusted for amounts I've shared) and probably more like 150mg a day recently as I had more fun with higher doses in the beginning.

150mg divided by 6 25mg doses spread throughout the day. Tolerance has flatlined at this level for months. This would be too much for non-tolerant people seeking functional (but nice) antidepressant effects. But also it is not an absurd amount or a huge tolerance.

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Seiko, I'm not really trying to nay-say you. I realize the value of being better safe than sorry. And you're a mod, and one of the best mods on this site, so harm reduction ftw. If I was still a PD mod I probably wouldn't be opening my mouth about this. But since I'm not anymore, that's my story =D

It's sure important to stress that YMMV and probably will in a worse way. But sometimes some drugs work alright for some people who can keep their shit together and handle them responsibly :) ... not at all usually, though!

Anyway I don't intend to eat my own words, and I haven't any MXE at the moment but still feel it has benefited my state of mind and helped me improve my life situation. I might get some more in a while as there's some events it might be fun to have around for. So.. to be continued..
 
Hello, I'm sorry to interrupt but I asked this over in the combinations thread and haven't got any answers yet. So to copy and paste:

I have just been prescribed Valpro (sodium valproate, 200mg twice daily) for possible neuropathic pain which I have been self-medicating with low doses of MXE. I can't find out much about it, and my knowledge of pharmacology is rudimentary at best, but it seems to me these two chemicals would not play well together? Cancel each other out? What do people think?
I'm not keen on taking them at all really as I would rather not be on daily psychiatric medication for what is actually a physical problem. I've only been given this stuff because of the ridiculous taboo on painkillers in this country (Australia).

I've not been using MXE daily and I'm going to take a break for a week or so to give these new meds a try, but I would be interested to hear the opinions of those that know more than I about brain chemistry. Thanks.
 
the thing about MXE is, its effects on your behavior are so subtle that you really have to look out for them extremely hard and unless you really know what you are looking for, you can easily be fooled about the drug's effects on you entire psyche. due to lack of noticeable bad side effects after use it is a very easy drug to abuse. the drug's afterglow can last for weeks after use as well, it's only when the afterglow wears off that you will want some more to feel those same anti depressant effects again.

this drug is really quite evil and I think those people going through mountainous amounts are really quite foolish.
 
I don't know if this matches anyone else's experience but when I mix alcohol with MXE is when I find myself truly in a strange manic state.
 
Hello, I'm sorry to interrupt but I asked this over in the combinations thread and haven't got any answers yet. So to copy and paste:

I have just been prescribed Valpro (sodium valproate, 200mg twice daily) for possible neuropathic pain which I have been self-medicating with low doses of MXE. I can't find out much about it, and my knowledge of pharmacology is rudimentary at best, but it seems to me these two chemicals would not play well together? Cancel each other out? What do people think?
I'm not keen on taking them at all really as I would rather not be on daily psychiatric medication for what is actually a physical problem. I've only been given this stuff because of the ridiculous taboo on painkillers in this country (Australia).

I've not been using MXE daily and I'm going to take a break for a week or so to give these new meds a try, but I would be interested to hear the opinions of those that know more than I about brain chemistry. Thanks.

I think you should ask your question over at ADD maybe, there´s bound to be some one there who can answer.
 
So why is everyone conviced that the bad batch is Tiletamine?
I just got a bit of this salty batch and it is certainly not as potent as previous batches of MXE and has a different consistency.
But couldnt that be explained by an impure synth.

Is tiletamine easier to make than MXE?
I just dont see the motive when real MXE isnt all that hard to find.
 
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