Benzos Underdosed products from specific pharmas, would love to hear your experiences on the same products.

[G_Chem]

I am 100% new to the above galenika bensedin 10mg and my benzo tolerance is low but I could eat these like sweets and feel absolutely nothing. My neighbours had 1 each and had the best sleep they have ever had, all from the same box of 30. 2 for them 28 for me and didn't even go to sleep.
I am dubious about these Galenika ksalol alprazolam 1mg strips, 15 in a strip little very very light blue. What are they going to do nothing or kill me?

Your neighbors probably got placebo’d.

I can only agree heavily with the OP. For buprenorphine the only brand that works is name brand Suboxone. I’ve tried multiple generics, some were better than others but they all almost felt like a different drug to me.

Brand name Suboxone I can take 1mg a day and feel normal/good, have energy to do my day but don’t feel fucked up.

Generic I can take up to 2mg a day and still feel it’s lacking. No energy if anything they are sedating. I feel almost high in a way but not in a good way. And the worst part is I get these migraine like headaches most prominently at the onset of effects. Feels dangerous honestly like blood pressure in my head is all off.

I’ve surmised there must be leftover impurities in all but the brand name which alter the effects.

-GC

 

[TUFKA-Sleepwalker]

As I used the 2mg Xanax bars 20 years ago, the now banned RC version flualp came close in " knock out" terms. But nowadays in my small country, I my doctor prescribes them as OC alprazolam and still in high doses every month. But the "availability" in my pharmacy is dropping to lower and lower dosage per pill. Now i get 12 boxes of 0.25mg a month...just to get my 3 mg a day. Thats 12 pills per day, instead of 1,5...
My insurance must be happy, for they charge per receipt.
But this trend makes me fear they might stop continuing alprazolam.
Does anyone else expierience this trend in the Netherlands?

And I deffo noticed f.e. that the Fentanyl patches from Durogesic are the bomb, while generics from Aurobindo suck big time.

 

[reptikon]

Just had 20mg of those galenika 1 ,,Mg pills and yeah laughable. I need diazepam but can't find legit source

 

[exilium]

I am on the Spanish National Health, I've been so since 2016. When I lived in the States, I used to have prescription for Valium, Roche 10mg, with the "V" in the middle? The real McCoys. This was in the early 90's before they were coming out with the generics close to the same strength, about $26 dollars for 30.
Later, I switched to Zenith, remember them? They got bought out, so I couldn't get Zenith anymore. Along came DAN. DAN, were pretty decent, for a while. They also got bought out. So I switched to Watson. Watson wasn't as good and on all of these BTW, it took about a week or two before I would notice any strange change.
Watson wasn't good. So I switched to TEVA. I stayed with TEVA because they were good. I took these until I moved to Spain in 2016. Please keep in mind that I take 10 mg a night, unless I have a medical procedure or anxiety attack, I might pop a half under my tongue, which is how I've been taking them.
After seeing a doctor in Spain to continue so my body wouldn't freak out, I was given Prodes. THE WORST, poorest under-potent quality. In two weeks I was getting that electrical shock feeling, headache, no appetite, anxiety, vertigo, confusion and memory problems. I went to the doctor, gave him the box and asked if it was possible to get name brand Valium by Roche. Yes. Under the public health system, about 1,25€ for a box of 25. I have to get two boxes because there are 30/31 days in a month. I went to the pharmacy where I've had my Rx filled since 2016 and I got Valium Roche. Within the hour I was not feeling the withdrawal. The box is mostly white with an orange stripe across the lower part and a short strip of blue going down to midway from the upper right corner. It does say Valium, but it also says Diazepam. Roche still makes Valium, which is diazepam. But, I would rather the original manufacturer make a generic, if it is, than some Israeli (TEVA) or Indian, or some other generic maker. The cost for brand name Valium by Roche went from $28 for 30 10mg tabs to $523 dollars for 30 tabs. Obscene.
What I have I have been reading is that this is actually not diazepam but another drug. What prompted me to look was that the markings on the back have changed between 2018 and 2022 from ROCHE 10, to 10 V. If they did discontinue, then my pharmacy, all pharmacies here are selling a fake drug. According to CIMA, the Roche diazepam is still made in Madrid.

 

[packjamNL]

As I used the 2mg Xanax bars 20 years ago, the now banned RC version flualp came close in " knock out" terms. But nowadays in my small country, I my doctor prescribes them as OC alprazolam and still in high doses every month. But the "availability" in my pharmacy is dropping to lower and lower dosage per pill. Now i get 12 boxes of 0.25mg a month...just to get my 3 mg a day. Thats 12 pills per day, instead of 1,5...
My insurance must be happy, for they charge per receipt.
But this trend makes me fear they might stop continuing alprazolam.
Does anyone else expierience this trend in the Netherlands?

And I deffo noticed f.e. that the Fentanyl patches from Durogesic are the bomb, while generics from Aurobindo suck big time.

Aurobindo is crap, look for zembla and aurobindo ducu, look for cheap meds high price

 

[packjamNL]

I got 80 mg methadone from sandoz, and other brands, then suddenly aurobinido, and the shit stopped working after 12 hours, I shook heaven and earth for a week to get my old brand back, now I have to sign for the meds, special case, aurobindo are criminals, and the factories dump so much antibiotics in the system it's a threat for the world, 6 resistent bacteria found are because they dump their antibiotics trash in rivers, more dangerous then corona

 

[TUFKA-Sleepwalker]

aurobindo are criminals, and the factories dump so much antibiotics in the system it's a threat for the world, 6 resistent bacteria found are because they dump their antibiotics trash in rivers, more dangerous then corona

I didn't know that, but their products are poor qualiy indeed. I noticed that for many years now.
From Fentanyl Alprazolam and even Diazepam , if the boxes said Aurobindo, you'd be f$cked compared to the original brands.
Strange but true.

 

[packjamNL]

I am on the Spanish National Health, I've been so since 2016. When I lived in the States, I used to have prescription for Valium, Roche 10mg, with the "V" in the middle? The real McCoys. This was in the early 90's before they were coming out with the generics close to the same strength, about $26 dollars for 30.
Later, I switched to Zenith, remember them? They got bought out, so I couldn't get Zenith anymore. Along came DAN. DAN, were pretty decent, for a while. They also got bought out. So I switched to Watson. Watson wasn't as good and on all of these BTW, it took about a week or two before I would notice any strange change.
Watson wasn't good. So I switched to TEVA. I stayed with TEVA because they were good. I took these until I moved to Spain in 2016. Please keep in mind that I take 10 mg a night, unless I have a medical procedure or anxiety attack, I might pop a half under my tongue, which is how I've been taking them.
After seeing a doctor in Spain to continue so my body wouldn't freak out, I was given Prodes. THE WORST, poorest under-potent quality. In two weeks I was getting that electrical shock feeling, headache, no appetite, anxiety, vertigo, confusion and memory problems. I went to the doctor, gave him the box and asked if it was possible to get name brand Valium by Roche. Yes. Under the public health system, about 1,25€ for a box of 25. I have to get two boxes because there are 30/31 days in a month. I went to the pharmacy where I've had my Rx filled since 2016 and I got Valium Roche. Within the hour I was not feeling the withdrawal. The box is mostly white with an orange stripe across the lower part and a short strip of blue going down to midway from the upper right corner. It does say Valium, but it also says Diazepam. Roche still makes Valium, which is diazepam. But, I would rather the original manufacturer make a generic, if it is, than some Israeli (TEVA) or Indian, or some other generic maker. The cost for brand name Valium by Roche went from $28 for 30 10mg tabs to $523 dollars for 30 tabs. Obscene.
What I have I have been reading is that this is actually not diazepam but another drug. What prompted me to look was that the markings on the back have changed between 2018 and 2022 from ROCHE 10, to 10 V. If they did discontinue, then my pharmacy, all pharmacies here are selling a fake drug. According to CIMA, the Roche diazepam is still made in Madrid.

I did not know Roche still produces diazepam which they named valium in the end of the 60's begin 70's, the patent is long gone, and my experience today the best 10mg pills are white and I believe are made by Teva, everything that is made in India is criminal and cheap as f*, that's why health insurances wants them for the public, a good designer-benzo replacement is bromonordiazepam 2.5 is like 10mg diazepam but works 12-24 hours. The caviar under the designer benzo's is Norflurazepam, they can work longer then 24 hours maybe 48 hrs, but is not a muscle relaxer like diazepam, if you can get them, do it, 5mg is standard 10mg's can made you sleepy but also high, the best sleeping drug is Flunitrazolam 0,25 or 0.5mg, a flunitrazepam (rohypnol) analog, very strong but no hangovers and works 10-12 hrs. I read designer benzo Pyrazolam can be laced with fentanyl

 

[packjamNL]

I am on the Spanish National Health, I've been so since 2016. When I lived in the States, I used to have prescription for Valium, Roche 10mg, with the "V" in the middle? The real McCoys. This was in the early 90's before they were coming out with the generics close to the same strength, about $26 dollars for 30.
Later, I switched to Zenith, remember them? They got bought out, so I couldn't get Zenith anymore. Along came DAN. DAN, were pretty decent, for a while. They also got bought out. So I switched to Watson. Watson wasn't as good and on all of these BTW, it took about a week or two before I would notice any strange change.
Watson wasn't good. So I switched to TEVA. I stayed with TEVA because they were good. I took these until I moved to Spain in 2016. Please keep in mind that I take 10 mg a night, unless I have a medical procedure or anxiety attack, I might pop a half under my tongue, which is how I've been taking them.
After seeing a doctor in Spain to continue so my body wouldn't freak out, I was given Prodes. THE WORST, poorest under-potent quality. In two weeks I was getting that electrical shock feeling, headache, no appetite, anxiety, vertigo, confusion and memory problems. I went to the doctor, gave him the box and asked if it was possible to get name brand Valium by Roche. Yes. Under the public health system, about 1,25€ for a box of 25. I have to get two boxes because there are 30/31 days in a month. I went to the pharmacy where I've had my Rx filled since 2016 and I got Valium Roche. Within the hour I was not feeling the withdrawal. The box is mostly white with an orange stripe across the lower part and a short strip of blue going down to midway from the upper right corner. It does say Valium, but it also says Diazepam. Roche still makes Valium, which is diazepam. But, I would rather the original manufacturer make a generic, if it is, than some Israeli (TEVA) or Indian, or some other generic maker. The cost for brand name Valium by Roche went from $28 for 30 10mg tabs to $523 dollars for 30 tabs. Obscene.
What I have I have been reading is that this is actually not diazepam but another drug. What prompted me to look was that the markings on the back have changed between 2018 and 2022 from ROCHE 10, to 10 V. If they did discontinue, then my pharmacy, all pharmacies here are selling a fake drug. According to CIMA, the Roche diazepam is still made in Madrid.

Valium had Diazepam 10 on the pill not a V, blue pills can be anything even with Roche stamped in it

 

[packjamNL]

I didn't know that, but their products are poor qualiy indeed. I noticed that for many years now.
From Fentanyl Alprazolam and even Diazepam , if the boxes said Aurobindo, you'd be f$cked compared to the original brands.
Strange but true.

there is a dutch documentary called Zembla/Aurobindo, kids can't even play miles from the Aurobindo factory the oxygen is poisoned with so much shit especially antibiotics, they have to sit down where the oxygen is more pure, they are criminals and the workers have to work 7 days a week but live in tents for 100 usd a month, specialists who can afford houses get payed 130 usd a month, craaayyyzy

 

[Sk1500]

I get free UK script Diazepam, on 40mg daily, collected weekly so get 56x 5mg, been on for so long I don't even notice, plus just take at night once a day. I usually have on average 2 days where I have say 55mg and 60mg. Then just 35mg the remainder.

I found a spare 10, so 50mg plus the 35mg last night. I don't feel anymore unless I have a few months without Cyclizine and then for 2 or 3 days have 5 or 6 and can feel like used to decades ago.

I bought think was Roche Xanax, never had real before but I had the whole box, spread over 1½ days and felt nothing!! Got into argument with company who refused refund etc. I rang up my bank admitted what I did and got refunded.

They didn't reply but after trying to buy from 4 different but similar companies, I was blackballed and they'd only except Bitcoin.

I personally wouldn't trust or take ant but the Accord ones or from UK Pharmacy.

 

[Nas47]

Roche are king of benzos.No more their products in pharmacies.Two-three years ago-there was Roshe clonazepam in bottles....till they withdrawn from the market.Now there is only shitty generics....clonazepam addicts search original product from abroad

 

[packjamNL]

Roche are king of benzos.No more their products in pharmacies.Two-three years ago-there was Roshe clonazepam in bottles....till they withdrawn from the market.Now there is only shitty generics....clonazepam addicts search original product from abroad

Right Roche quit, but there is a lot of Sandoz clonazepam on the market, I had both brands in my drawer because the Roche bottle had 100 tablets, but so does Sandoz, and there is no difference, really none, only in size of tablet

 

[packjamNL]

I get free UK script Diazepam, on 40mg daily, collected weekly so get 56x 5mg, been on for so long I don't even notice, plus just take at night once a day. I usually have on average 2 days where I have say 55mg and 60mg. Then just 35mg the remainder.

I found a spare 10, so 50mg plus the 35mg last night. I don't feel anymore unless I have a few months without Cyclizine and then for 2 or 3 days have 5 or 6 and can feel like used to decades ago.

I bought think was Roche Xanax, never had real before but I had the whole box, spread over 1½ days and felt nothing!! Got into argument with company who refused refund etc. I rang up my bank admitted what I did and got refunded.

They didn't reply but after trying to buy from 4 different but similar companies, I was blackballed and they'd only except Bitcoin.

I personally wouldn't trust or take ant but the Accord ones or from UK Pharmacy.

Roche made Alprozolam (or Xanax)? I'd prefer Pfizer

 

[packjamNL]

Roche are king of benzos.No more their products in pharmacies.Two-three years ago-there was Roshe clonazepam in bottles....till they withdrawn from the market.Now there is only shitty generics....clonazepam addicts search original product from abroad

Yeah called Rivotril, I ordered a bottle of 5 total with 100 little cp's in it, Sandoz is just as good maybe even better

 

[Nas47]

Right Roche quit, but there is a lot of Sandoz clonazepam on the market, I had both brands in my drawer because the Roche bottle had 100 tablets, but so does Sandoz, and there is no difference, really none, only in size of tablet

Sandoz are serious brand.I buy sometimes specific antibiotic for ocassional tooth infection made by them&it work perfect.They sell generic named "Clonarex"....Slovenia generic of Alcaloid....afficionados said it's absolute shit.....barely touch withdrawn even....so obvious there is a lot of differencies between different brands.some are ok,some are worthless.my diazepam is Teva and is so so...just there is not other options....except goin' to Serbia and by Galenica's products

 

[Dextro .45]

Spanish Kern brand Diazepam 10mg tablets are the BEST Valium 10mg I’ve ever taken

Small unscored light blue tablets imprinted with a large 10 on tablet. Light blue colour with very faint white specks/dots on them.

Apparently there are lots of fake pressed ones around

Those Kern Diazepam 10mg hit Soooo hard, and 2 of them had me feeling like 3-4 Canadian generic ApoTex Diazepam 10mg tablets. I absolutely love those Spanish Kern Diazepam 10mg tablets

Best Diazepam on the global market to me. Noticeably smaller in diameter than standard Valium 10’s and aren’t scored to break in half…but most importantly, Potent as F@$&

 

[Adversary]

Aurobindo is crap, look for zembla and aurobindo ducu, look for cheap meds high price

I knew I wasn’t crazy. I abused tf outta lorazepam in high school so I know em well, Watson was my preferred. Then I got some gd Aurobindo and the shit is basically a sugar pill.