emcdda said:
wiki said:Freebase or free base refers to the pure basic form of an amine, as opposed to its salt form. The amine is usually an alkaloid natural product. Free base is commonly used in organic chemistry and pharmaceuticals to describe the deprotonated amine form of a compound.
A case of the phrase "free base" becoming debased.
whatever the case IM recent E a gram of paste when dried out is actually much less than a gram once all the solvents or god knows whats in the paste has evaporated. I much prefered the proper strong powder that was doing the rounds in Bristol around 20 years ago, not keen on speed in paste form atall.
Why not just dry it out? That way you can snort it, and you also remove some potentially harmful unevaporated solvents.
Thanks knock
re bolded. That's total horseshit. I'll explain why later. but if you use the info knock posted, you should be able to work out why yourself.
I suppose it's horseshit if the moistness really is due to the presence of base (the oil)
The speed I was getting straight from the source for two years, had one thing added to it from it's liquid form, altho they wouldnt tell me what. But it was as close to pure as it could be beyond liquid form.
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I remember getting an ounce of it once that was almost brown. same stuff but had been kept near a radiator, apparently it goes darker the warmer it is. It's potency was the same.
I wonder if anybody has actually purchased actual (confirmed) freebase? I imagine it'd have to be heavily adulterated in order to be suitable for sale. Let alone consumption. .
Why not just dry it out? That way you can snort it, and you also remove some potentially harmful unevaporated solvents.
IME (and that of many others), any talk of amphetamine paste / 'base' losing potency when dried is absolute bunkum - it's only wet because of undried solvents, which suits dealers because they can sell it wet and increase their profits. Hence the refrigeration. Which is not to say that decent speed doesn't often come in that form (some of the best street speed does) but the moisture content has nothing at all to do with purity / potency.
Freebase amphetamine (which I believe Marmalade is confusing it with) is something different entirely, and you're highly unlikely to ever see it on the streets.
You mean meth MDB?..It is said that is very very addictive but not for me at least, although I have only had three sessions of it in total in my life - I guess I wasn't addicted to H after three smokes either..but, personally with my limited experience I don't see it as very addictive..crack for me is far far more fiendish and 'moreish' than meth, even good quality powdered coke I would think is more addictive.
Now I've never tried MDPV (I actually may have had some if that was the active ingredient in Ocean / Ivory wave when the head shops were open which I read somewhere that it was - in this case it's one of the the most awful paranoia inducing drug I've had the dubious pleasure of being accuqainted with)but I think it takes a special character (i.e. not normal) to become a full blown meth addict...it's not just something that you are casually drawn into - it keeps you awake for DAYS so you would need to buy into the lifestyle of a meth addict I would imagine