Never have willingly ingested methamphetamine, however I'm almost positive I've had some in some batches of "molly" and E in the past and I'm fairly certain I can tell the difference between the meth and the MDMA when they hit. First, I'm pretty sure meth hits a bit quicker and is classically euphoric and stimulating in a way like "Wow!! I feel fantastic!! This is how people should always feel!!" whereas the MDMA hits shortly after that, giving that melting, body-rubbing, intoxicating explosion-of-empathy "Everything is just amazing" feeling. My rolls in the past that have felt like this are always fun, but the 'speedy' first effects are the ones that always stand out as addicting and what I seem to really crave in the days after, whereas the actual rolling-on-molly part is simply a glowing, fun experience to cherish that I'm not fiending to repeat ASAP. Like fire and ice.
This is furthermore solidified in my two recent encounters with moderate doses of extreeeeeeemely pure (Reagent tested) MDMA, because these felt purely like the "molly" effects I described above, all completely without the speedy "meth" effects I described, almost sedating in ways. There also was no "comedown" so to speak of, it was a very easy, gentle drift back to Earth after 5 straight hours of pure, uninterrupted, full body orgasm.
Having said all that, I often find myself craving those speedy effects as I can see why that would be useful in daily life as well as recreationally, and that's a tree I refuse to bark up.
IMO, this is the reason that I got hooked on meth when I tried it. Being a raver for so many years, I know I got tons of speedy MDMA pills, and even meth bombs. Yes they are different, but IMO pretty damn similar too. Meth of course is way worst for you and the most addictive substance I have encountered and the one I have had issues more than any other drug quitting. Recently I got on medicine and almost went a month clean. I don't know when but recently I just found myself doing it again, and it just made me really depressed. Because while off meth, my life was starting to completely turn around.. I wasn't the asshole selfish friend, son, brother and cousin, nephew, grandson that I had become for once. I was starting to rekindle relationships with friends and family again, being more social, being able to function pretty normal again. Then I thought, oh I got this, I can just take a couple hits here and there. That's how it starts, next thing you know, your huffing and sucking the devils glass dick all day and night. I fucking hate meth more than anything on this earth. There is no such thing as a "occasional meth user", it's deception, you think you can handle it, but in the end it handles you and it handles you fucking hard. I just flushed my last few crumbs I had and I'm gonna smash the fuck out of the pipe when I wake up later on today. Meth is evil, there is no doubt in my mind it is. The people you have to associate to get it, the disgusting things you do while on it, the most loved ones you hurt while doing it. I always told myself I would never do meth. Then I tried it one day after a bad fallout with me and my ex. When I smoked it, I thought "it's kinda like E without the hallucinations". I remember how dissappointed I was in myself that first day. I wanted to drive myself to rehab just for that one time because I knew myself deep down. And I didn't. And in less than a year I have managed to do a whole bunch of sketchy fucked up stuff. I'm glad to be alive; and yes for people with ADHD, when doing something like meth or even e, you get extremely calm. People with add, ADHD, have a chemical imbalance in their brain. For whatever reason stimulants relax these people. I have a autistic sister who has been on Ritalin and Prozac her whole life, so I think it definitely has something to do with genetics.
As disappointed as I am with myself right now, I know that there is a God and he has always been with me even at my worst and darkest moments and is probably why I luckily have never been incarcerated or ODd completely yet. Meth is evil, don't fucking do it OP. You're on a slippery slope even doing it just once. The fact you liked it or want to do it again, shows how powerful that shit is. IMO , coke is a joke compared to meth. I already quit coke and won't go back to that life, only reason I was able to was cuz my connect got busted back years ago and after that I never did it again.
I'm looking forward to the future. I'm gonna smash my piece, and flush any remnants I may find. And then I'm gonna pray again like I just did to find strength to stay away from that shit forever like I had been.
You don't have control. No one does with that shit, you're only lying to yourself if you think so. It's either you're diving into the deep end of the pool or not going in at all.
My biggest regret in my life ever was not marrying my ex when I was younger and then my second biggest regret is trying meth. It will make you really fucked up and paranoid eventually, and you will get little to no sleep, even with benzos. I swore for about a week when I was on it harder a few months back that I had undercover FBI informants following me everywhere. Literally I was convinced this was the cAse.
If the people that haven't done or only done meth a couple times, do yourself a huge favor, save yourself all the drama, depression, worst times in you're life, loosing friends, gf/partners, and losing your mind, body and soul and personal freedoms you have. I also believe meth is a poison, so poisonous when your try to get off your body needs it.
You don't want the life of a addict like that. I'm lucky I never ivd it bc I know if I did , I wouldn't be writing this post right now.
There has been some very supportive people during this time, especially threads on here, even during my worst where I was cussing out moderators for moving my post.
The only thing that has personally helped me get off meth when I was off of it was vyvanse, which is the same thing as adderall except you can't abuse it, can't sniff, smoke or inject. The chemical is converted into the same chemical as adderall once it hits your gastro. For me personally , since I was diagnosed with adult ADD, once getting on vyvanse, not only was I able to quit meth, but was having so much success with finally producing music, understanding it finally, getting my equipment all hooked up finally without getting frustrated and quitting like I always did before. It in no way is nearly the same drug as meth; sure some similarities but the same I see it as meth and MDMA being similar but not the same. If you take a controlled dose or vyvanse, you will absolutely do Better in life. I saw some people saying it's bad for your heart, but what isn't? Fast food, smoking weed, cigs, drinking a soda, coffee, all increases your heart rate too; but for people that have a imbalance, I cannot tell you how much more amazing my life is. Everything Is much easier for me to do now; make music, clean my room, wash my car, water the backyard, having conversations with people, literally everything. For my sister who is autistic with ADHD , she has been on similar drugs her whole life and always will be because or her chemical imbalance. You can't just say that doing adderall/ farm. Meds is bad if you do it everyday, especially after living and growing up with her. She's a year younger than me but only has the mental capacity of a 10-11 year old, but is also amazingly incredible at certain things she likes, like college football and sport stats and players.
As my psych said, for people with add and ADHD, once you get the medicine, it's as if you had blind/cloudy vision and just put on a pair of glasses for the first time. And for me it really is and was. But because I started increasing my doses a day or 2 earlier than I was suppose to , I ran out of my script a couple days ago, got my paper for refill but the pharmacy is fucking sticklers and does the math and I am not allowed to finally get my medicine until tomorrow. Which is great because with my medicine not only will it help with my ADD but it will help me break the meth spell again.
I'm optomistic I will quit and conquer meth once and for all. I knew eventually I would relapse, but just recently began to notice the last few days I'm beginning to fall into the same horrible shitty existence that meth does to you. It makes me want to try to quit again that much more, and this time I can't increase my doses as instructed a couple days earlier like I did before. I go back to school this weekend, so I need to focus on that and the medicine. I don't get high off vyvanse at all, I don't sweat bullets, I don't grind my teeth, I don't think there's bugs, my eyes don't look all black, there isn't shadow people or the government following me anywhere and everywhere. They are not the same substance at all, you take as directed, a controlled dose and it will be a miracle for you like it had been for me.
To the op again, don't think you can have a casual meth habit, cuz it will turn into addiction before you know it. I only have done it a little under a year, but within the first 2 months of use I ended up in the ER 4 times and 1 ambulance ride there. Do you really want that? Do you want to risk throwing away your life and soul for a shit drug that will ruin your life? For the people I hear that have done it 6 years, 10, 20, I pray for you, because I cannot imagine being a slave to that substance for that long.
Read everyone's comments here and don't think your going to be the first ever occasional meth user. 95 percent of this thread says quit while you're ahead, and to never start. Stat I heard was 9 out of 10 people that try meth end up getting hooked on it. You really gonna be that 1 person bro who isn't ?
Save yourself your life, time , and relationships and don't touch that shit ever again. You'll become separated and isolated from everyone especially once word gets out to others you're a tweaker and they automatically cast judgment on you. Don't support gangs, mafias, or criminal organizations that thrive off meth production and also will kill off anyone that is in their way of making money. Not good bro, not at all. Jerking off 20-28 hours straight is real fun too. What a waste of time that drug is. Don't don't don't do it. Seriously listen to what we say and don't try to ride the ice pony or speed train anymore or ever again. I now understand why others gave me the same advice, but my pompous ass didn't take it. Now I get it though
Don't fuck up anymore, quit while you're ahead before you fuck up your life, straight up. Sorry for the long post but really bottom line, quit that shit while you can before it gets harder to quit.
