• Psychedelic Drugs Welcome Guest
    View threads about
    Posting RulesBluelight Rules
    PD's Best Threads Index
    Social ThreadSupport Bluelight
    Psychedelic Beginner's FAQ

The Big & Dandy Trip Abortion Thread

Wow. So many different ideas! Best choose your weapon wisely however, as more drugs isnt always helpfull :)

Basically if your having a difficult experience, but dont want the night to end, your going to need to calm yourself down somewhat and take away anxiety.

To do this you want a GABA agonist, prefferably one more reputable for its anti-anxiety effects. At pretty much any point in time one should be able to obtain alcohol with relative ease. This is your most convienient option.
A couple drinks is more then often enough to make me feel relaxed enough and at ease with my surroundings to continue the party, but with serious mind bending doses this often isnt enough.

Next option is benzos. As said earlier, xanax and valium type drugs will alieviate your anxietys, give you a sense of well being and hopefully not put you to sleep, unless thats what you want of course.

Speaking of sleep, in absolute emergencies where said lost tripper is getting to be to much work for the sitters to keep a hold of then its time to pull out the big guns. Again, benzo's can be the way to go here as they will knock you out in high enough doses. However for me at least, they're pretty fucking hard to get a hold of.

Next up from that, is anti-psychotics. ie. seroquel.

These are the only drugs that can actually make the trip "stop". All previously mentioned GABA agonists will only dull the trip and make it easier to handle. Anti-psyches will work against your psychedellic by reducing activity on certain receptors. I understand seroquel to be a full anti-agonist across the board for all seretonin and dopamine receptors (probably wrong?) which makes it very usefull for those who use stims and psyches. 50mg of that stuff knocks me out whether I like it or not. Not recreational at all, but with one of those in my pocket just knowing I can flip the "off switch" at any point makes my night alot smoother just from peice of mind alone. Seroquel in particular is massively over prescribed and very easily obtained. Ask friends with bi-polar etc if they have any spare. Very usefull, and I'm sure they wont mind lol

ps. The best thing about psyches. Is most are near impossible to OD on. Theres never been a single recorded LSD overdose that I'm aware of, even after millions of doses have been consumed world wide over many decades. Same goes for mushrooms to an extent. Any dose you'll be taking will be a VERY long way from lethal. So first of all, you should feel safe knowing what you've taken, cant hurt you. If your still having a hard run of it, sedation may be required.
 
OK, this is from an "old timer", who got his first acid at 16 years old directly from the hand of Tim Leary. Which I guess kind of dates me. Anyway, at least back when acid was really acid, mescaline really mescaline, and psilocybin really psilocybin, and there wasn't much worry about what it might have been adulterated with, Thorazine used to do a real good job of knocking out psychadelics. I remember one time someone (guess who) was filling gel caps with mescaline, and in the course of a couple hours ate at least a couple of heaping teaspoons full, and never got high. Then he remembered he'd taken some thorazine that morning. Oh, well.

Whether it'd work today, with all the unknown crap being sold as various things like acid, I have no idea. Heck, I don't even know if thorazine is around anymore. Even back in the day, it was a prescription drug.
 
Woodstock First Aid

I once heard that at the original Woodstock festival, they had tents set up here and there for people who were on either too heavy or bad trips. Supposedly just sedatives (in particular either the barbiturate phenobarbital or benzodiazepine chlordiazepoxide), were used.

If you want to counteract their use because you're afraid you've done too much, I fear there's not much that can be done. If you want to learn which drugs to avoid in order to ensure that you're not going to diminish the effects of the psychedelics you're using or planning to use, then again I'm just not sure. I'm sure many other bluelighters on here will be able to give you a better answer.

But, not all CNS depressants will decrease the action of CNS stimulants even if present in the brain simultaneously. Many work on different part of the brain, with different actions, etc. It's all so very interesting and complicated.

This might date me even worse than my post about Thorazine. My parents lived in Pawling, NY, about 80 miles from White Lake. I was on a 30 day leave from the Army, on my way to Vietnam (this was at the height of the draft), and a High School friend asked me if I wanted to go to a rock festival. Turned out to be Woodstock. I don't recall any specific "aid for trips" tents, but there were some first aid tents, and they did handle a lot of trippers. I never needed their help, so I don't know what they were using, but prescription drugs were a lot easier to get your hands on back then than they are now, so it could have been just about anything and everything, and probably was.
 
Xanax seems to work. The only problem I have, is when someone gets to the point of no return in a trip, it is extremely difficult to get them to take anything you give them. And, I do not especially fell comfortable forcing someone to take anything. Even getting them to drink plain water can be difficult at times.

Are there any inhalants that may be easier to administer to someone at this point that can cause an early termination of a psychedelic?
 
What about Remeron (Mirtazapine)?

I've found this effective for ending trips. But i don't know about the safety of doing so.

benzos, the faster acting the better. The most commom, Xanax or K-pins. Midazolam would work great as well. Or anything that hits hard to get stop a trip or "counteract" psych's.

Benzos don't really kill a trip, they just kinda chill it out, to an extent, most of the time. Sometimes they can make people who are freaking out more emotionally labile. So while they may calm down physically they may have more extreme mood swings. Not entirely reliable

Xanax seems to work. The only problem I have, is when someone gets to the point of no return in a trip, it is extremely difficult to get them to take anything you give them. And, I do not especially fell comfortable forcing someone to take anything. Even getting them to drink plain water can be difficult at times.

Are there any inhalants that may be easier to administer to someone at this point that can cause an early termination of a psychedelic?

nitrous, lol. Not really, but i suppose it might make them briefly immobile. Its been way too long since i've done nitrous on a psychedelic, I can't accurately remember whether i'm calm or more anxious while in nitrous moonspace. Sounds like i'll have to get back into the lab ;)
 
word

IME mirtazapine will entirely abolish a trip, but there has quite a debate as to whether or not it is safe.

I've also heard about mirtazapine's efficacy in killing trips, but what do you know of its safety profile in regard to this? I assume you're not talking about mirtazapine on its own being unsafe
 
Last edited:
Guh, L3inad stole my post nearly word for word. :p

Just to add, if you're asking just as a precaution in case you (or someone) starts to trip out, (clonaze, diaze, alpraz) wafers are best - much quicker onset! Having said that, I'm not quite sure if these are even prescribed (from a GP) and I've actually never come across these from the illegal side.
 
Last edited:
Can you still trip if you are prescribed Mirtazapine but dont take it for the day you do LSD on?
 
I wouldn't say benzos work very well - make you calmer yes, but won't kill a trip.

Anti-psychotics - can't think of any brand names, but my friend once got given a pill that killed his 1200ug dose, so he went to sleep pretty quickly.

Stims - baaaaaad what are you TALKING about people?!?! They make the trip way more hectic.

EDIT: WTFFFFFF is with that kiddie porn?!?! 8o
 
Bucket of cold water straight in the face will definitely change the direction a trip is going.

i wouldn't sit for anyone without a bucket a h20 handy.

:)
 
^^^ Yes, I would do since phenazepam is a benzodiazepine. But in the same way any other benzo does (being GABAergic). There would be no pharmacological interactions between phenazepam and psychedelics (note: wildly making the assumption of standard "psychedelic" MOA, like LSD, being serotonin agonists)
 
Benzos and anti psychotics. I would say morphine/heroin could relax the person or make them forget.
 
I would say morphine/heroin could relax the person or make them forget.

Along with greater risks! Definitely benzos ftw (to try to diffuse a bad trip). Anti-psychotics obviously work the best but 1. Harder to come by and 2. It's best not be playing with anti-psychotics.
 
anti psychotic like risperdal works very well

This depends heavily on the psychedelic in question!

Benzodiazepines and similar GABAergics (not Amanitas!) work well and safely with all psychedelics (except Amanitas), but using antipsychotics to abort a trip requires an understanding of the psychedelic in question. "Traditional" psychedelics like LSD, psilocin, 25C-NBOMe are almost all 5-ht2a and 5-ht1a, but DMT, aMT, MDMA, 6-APB, 5-MeO-MiPT, etc all have multiple mechanisms of action and complex pharmacology, and what works for one may not work for another, and may in fact worsen symptoms in some cases! Benzodiazepines have a long history of safe use, and should always be first choice in case of a trip gone wrong.
 
This depends heavily on the psychedelic in question!

Benzodiazepines and similar GABAergics (not Amanitas!) work well and safely with all psychedelics (except Amanitas), but using antipsychotics to abort a trip requires an understanding of the psychedelic in question. "Traditional" psychedelics like LSD, psilocin, 25C-NBOMe are almost all 5-ht2a and 5-ht1a, but DMT, aMT, MDMA, 6-APB, 5-MeO-MiPT, etc all have multiple mechanisms of action and complex pharmacology, and what works for one may not work for another, and may in fact worsen symptoms in some cases! Benzodiazepines have a long history of safe use, and should always be first choice in case of a trip gone wrong.

i dont know too much about this stuff but i think the other ones you mentioned are also 5ht agonists.
 
Not a fan of antipsychotics - fuckin' zombie pills - but if the trip is so bad you'd rather fall asleep, I guess they have their uses.

Benzos should be your first choice. To be more specific, anxiolytic benzos (alprazolam, clonazepam, diazepam, lorazepam etc.) that have a quick onset (alprazolam is the best here).
I much prefer tuning down the psychedelia to tolerable levels, but in lieu with the antipsychotic approach, triazolam or midazolam would probably be effective in knocking your trip out in the second round.
 
Top