A friend of mine has the old "2C-EF" batch but it’s not lab-tested, yet. I will hand in a sample to ChEckiT in the next couple of weeks to have another referance. I’m pretty certain it won’t be 2C-EF, but he said he took 7mg for good effects which does seem odd to me as he usually takes 25mg 2C-E or 250ug LSD.Yeah I was so excited to get some DOET, but it is almost nothing like 2C-E.
I want so bad to try DOEF (and actual 2C-EF, instead of the mix of 2C-C/2C-T-2/2C-T-7 I got sold - which is great but not 2C-EF)
Have you tried TMA-2 or any other members of the TMA-x family? Would love to hear how you'd compare TMA-2 to the DOx.Still need to try DOC, DOI and DOET, to round out my list...... I feel like I can't fully comment on the DOx class until I've taste DOC at least (Coming soon, whenever my life next gives me the opportunity). Feels like a collection lol, to rack up the all of the equivalent 2C-DOx compounds. I just want to have a comprehensive range of experiences with them all!
Hell I'd even try Bromo-dragonfly if it crossed my path (taken at a responsible dose ofc)
Have you tried DOB?Still need to try DOC, DOI and DOET, to round out my list...... I feel like I can't fully comment on the DOx class until I've taste DOC at least (Coming soon, whenever my life next gives me the opportunity). Feels like a collection lol, to rack up the all of the equivalent 2C-DOx compounds. I just want to have a comprehensive range of experiences with them all!
Hell I'd even try Bromo-dragonfly if it crossed my path (taken at a responsible dose ofc)
Still need to try DOC, DOI and DOET, to round out my list...... I feel like I can't fully comment on the DOx class until I've taste DOC at least (Coming soon, whenever my life next gives me the opportunity). Feels like a collection lol, to rack up the all of the equivalent 2C-DOx compounds. I just want to have a comprehensive range of experiences with them all!
Hell I'd even try Bromo-dragonfly if it crossed my path (taken at a responsible dose ofc)
A friend of mine has the old "2C-EF" batch but it’s not lab-tested, yet. I will hand in a sample to ChEckiT in the next couple of weeks to have another referance. I’m pretty certain it won’t be 2C-EF, but he said he took 7mg for good effects which does seem odd to me as he usually takes 25mg 2C-E or 250ug LSD.
Yess I feel so lucky to have encountered F, iP, and Pr, I would also say dumb luck and kindness were what brought them to across my path!You just made me remember I tried bromo-dragonfly, lol. It basically sucked. Too many side effects, and no real interesting positive effects. And it lasted like 30 hours.
Tell me about it man, I gave into my obsessive DOX collector's instinct years ago. The DOF, and DOiP and DOPr in gram quantity has been the find I'm most proud of. It was blind, dumb luck and the vendor diappeared right after, and I had to pretend to be a vendor to get them to reluctantly sell it to me. Also, the DOET was blind luck, got 24mg in a trade, no idea where he got it.
I have tried DOB! A good while ago, I found it to be just decent overall.Have you tried DOB?
I see, I actually looked up your blog shortly after, I believe you linked your blog a while ago. You went to sleep at +14 on 3mg? That's very impressive lol, it took me 4mg of etizolam at +24, and I was at a roaring +++ at +14 still.I have tried DOB! A good while ago, I found it to be just decent overall.
Honestly I encountered DOB so early on in my journey, I was much younger and more immature, I'm curious about how I would receive it nowadays! Though it's so hard to find now Would love to track down DOI too even tho that's also very elusive.I see, I actually looked up your blog shortly after, I believe you linked your blog a while ago. You went to sleep at +14 on 3mg? That's very impressive lol, it took me 4mg of etizolam at +24, and I was at a roaring +++ at +14 still.
I found DOPr to be most similar to DOB, it became especially apparent on my high DOPr dose. The timeline and how effects evolve is almost the same, and the effects themselves differ almost solely in headspace. A little like the difference between 2C-B and 2C-P, -B is sharper and faster while -P is slower and more dreamy. The nihilism you talk about in that report is what I suffered from my whole DOPr trip and could never break out off. Never a problem on DOB, on the contrary. I feel like on DOx especially, you need to trust in the drug 100%. In the sense that you need to believe that what you do, what you think and how you perceive the world is not just OK, but good, and deserved. If you don't and get doubts somewhere along the way the amphetamine part can make life seem very sluggish and like a chore. It's strange how differently they affect people in this regard, it seems that especially DOI is a serial offender of this.
Good luck with DOC
Yeah DOI is indeed even more elusive, I hope paths cross as well, I've have no illusions that I'll ever be able to try DOET or DOEF, but DOI once had some hype/love going for it at least...Honestly I encountered DOB so early on in my journey, I was much younger and more immature, I'm curious about how I would receive it nowadays! Though it's so hard to find now Would love to track down DOI too even tho that's also very elusive.
I do tend to metabolize things very quickly, so the duration of all of my experiences tends to be less than is recorded. I found DOPr quite unique relative to the other DOx's I've tried! Quite unlike 2C-P too. I would say my perspective on 2C-B vs. 2C-P is opposite yours- I find them both to be fiery, electric, sharp and fast and overclocked, but 2C-P to a much greater degree. Hard to characterize things consistently
Can't wait to try DOC! Hopefully I can meet DOI someday soon too.
2C-P definitely had a darker feel to me too, in general it felt "sharper" than DOPr in every way, in the quality and shape of the visuals, in the body load, in the overall sense of edged acute intensity even at lower doses. I would even go so far as to call DOPr a softer, gentler, more drawn out version of 2C-P. 2C-P also had a really intense stimulation that DOPr lacked. Hard for me to place what exactly I found them to have in common but there is a sense they are cut from similar cloth- maybe it's just a property of being so drawn out. But then again I found little similarity between say 2C-D and DOM (even aside from 2C-D being very short and DOM being very long, they were qualitatively quite distinct for me). Excited to try DOC when i can find the time and compare it to 2C-C.Re: DOPr vs 2C-P , I found them to have quite a lot in common, only DOPr felt more euphoric and uplifting to me, 2C-P sometimes has a "dark" vibe, altough it can also get euphoric at times. But in both of them I found that slightly dissociative, almost hypnotic quality that is very characteristic in them. I'm quite familiar with 2C-P, and my trips on it consistently have a dream-like trance quality. I found that even more pronounced in DOPr, but with greater mental clarity compared to the amount of psychedelia. 2C-P get really confusing and mindfucky at higher doses.
I would say the 'amphetamine' part of the name is just a nomenclatural formality due to its clearly defined amphetamine structure. But as you know they are quite unlike any non-psychedelic amphetamines.Curious why everyone writes DOPr with a lowercase r, when Shulgin capitalized it. Very minor detail, but is there some significance to it?
Having never tried a DOx, I am curious about the overall, general differences between DOx and 2C-x. I thought the amphetamine derivatives would be more stimulating and they are obviously longer lasting. But neverwing mentioned above how 2cp is more stimulating than DOPR.
The “amphetamine” part of the name has always been a bit off putting to me even though I know that doesn’t make sense. I’m a fan of psychedelics but that’s about it for drugs.
Are DOx considered strictly psychedelics? From the descriptions I’ve read they certainly seem so, but I’m wondering does it feel like a mix of a psychedelic and a stimulant? I guess that could be said for certain 2cx or 4 sub tryouts too - the combo of psych and stim. Sorry this is not the right thread for my questions.
Curious why everyone writes DOPr with a lowercase r, when Shulgin capitalized it. Very minor detail, but is there some significance to it?
Having never tried a DOx, I am curious about the overall, general differences between DOx and 2C-x. I thought the amphetamine derivatives would be more stimulating and they are obviously longer lasting. But neverwing mentioned above how 2cp is more stimulating than DOPR.
The “amphetamine” part of the name has always been a bit off putting to me even though I know that doesn’t make sense. I’m a fan of psychedelics but that’s about it for drugs.
Are DOx considered strictly psychedelics? From the descriptions I’ve read they certainly seem so, but I’m wondering does it feel like a mix of a psychedelic and a stimulant? I guess that could be said for certain 2cx or 4 sub tryouts too - the combo of psych and stim. Sorry this is not the right thread for my questions.