The King of Beans
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I didn't say one dose of one is equivalent of one dose of the other, but king of beans WAY overdid it with 500mg of both combined. A normal dose of 4FA is 150mg and a normal dose of methylone is 160mg. When you combine both you obviously need less, say 120mg of 4FA and 130mg of methylone. He took TWICE as much, while it is known he's binging almost weekly on serotonin releasers. And 500mg of 4FA and methylone has similar dopamine and serotonin depletion as 270mg of MDMA.
What I'm trying to say is, it's better to take his advices with a huge grain of salt with the knowledge that he is consistently frying his serotonin receptors.
Well first let me say that 4-FA provides little to no bad side effects for me, no matter what dosage I take. I get only good effects from it, so I never worry about taking 250 mg's. That is actually the dose I'd recommend to anyone. I am a very light person about 130 lbs, so I'm sure I would need even more than 250 if I weighed more. When I say more, I mean to achieve the full on 4-FA euphoria. I still definitely "Feel" the 4-FA even at low doses...it's just not the same euphoria you get with the higher doses. 125 is fine for many people, but 250 would be fine as well if you do not react badly. I've tried all sorts of doses with it. The first time I ever did it, I went with 250 mg's from doing my research that seemed like the right dose. And it was. Anymore than that, I don't need unless it's to redose.
I agree with you on how you compare the two...felt like I had about 300 mg's MDMA over the night. lol if I had to compare. But I disagree about your opinion that you should lower the dose just cuz you're combining. That doesn't make sense if you want to get the full effect. I guarantee had I taken half of what I did, I would not of rolled as hard. I like rolling hard, so I like bigger doses. Ive done both 4fa and m1 on their own and at the 125 doses. They dont do a lot in that dose range. Why combine "A little with a little"..lol but yeah my combo was cool, just like MDMA, same effects and everything.
MDMA is somewhat different, when it comes to dosage because I normally would like at least 150 mg's to start, then of course I'd continue to take it throughout the night. Since this combo felt exactly like pure mdma, had virtually the same side effects, come down, etc it could be compared in my opinion. I would probably say it did feel like over 200 mg's for sure. But it's been a while since I've rolled.
You are claiming that people shouldn't listen to what I say because you think I don't have enough serotonin to properly judge a drug? If that's what you think that is fine, but let me show you some proof that this is simply not the case. I used to binge on mdma, not any more. Havent done it in about a year. This combo was the first thing I've had to mimic a roll and I havent been this ate up for at least a year. The 4-FA on it's own does not fry your brain. At least mine it didn't. If I wasn't able to "Roll" I wouldn't of rolled balls from the 4-fa/M1 combo. So I don't understand why you would tell people to take my advice with a grain of salt?
I know what I'm talking about. I am actually one of the few providing the true dark side possibility of 6-apb which this site should be glad I am doing this because it helps for harm reduction. lol I am telling the honest truth, I've done the 6-apb 4 times at least now and every single time, the same lame thing, no matter what dose I took. Higher doses were a lot more trippy and stronger, but nothing special. Only cool thing bout 6apb is combining it with weed. Then you'll really bring out the visuals. Don't take 6-apb on it's own unless you have the highest quality batch (Which mine was supposed to be? I guess we wont know for sure without testing) One thing I do know, is that if a drug makes you "Roll" truly, then I will love that drug.
Bottom line, I didn't love 6-apb, it didn't come close to rolling. All batches are different though, so of course if you buy any of this shit, it's at your own risk. I'm just trying to provide real info here without people shooting it down, because everything I've said is 100% true. No delusions here. My serotonin tolerence was virtually zero when I first did the 6-apb, and I didnt feel any ecstastic feelings at all from the 6-apb. Felt more like a dirty trip. Pretty much everytime I did the 6-apb my serotonin was fresh (Fresh as it could be) because I haven't had the MDMA in a year, only took 4-FA a few times and I just haven't been frying my brain like I used to. So, let me know if you want to take back your statement or not. And if not, please provide a good reason as to why you would say something like that.