Tried 50/50 mg of 6-apb and 5-apb as a tester and the "roll" was pretty weak, kind of like a lazy boring roll. I couldnt even talk to people unlike if I was truly rolling balls. Music wasnt that great, even 4-FA beats it, So basically walked around with a body high not really enjoying it all. Side note: last couple weeks i've only taking a few breaks from 4-FA so hopefully with rest and time I'll take 150 mg of 6 and 50 mg of 5 and a 50 booster down the line. So from todays little run, it was a C rating but I think there is potential.
Thank you for backing me up. I agree totally with what you just said. That is exactly how 6-apb alone is for me. I look at 6-apb as a drug you need to mix with other drugs, because on it's own, it just doesnt do the trick. Now I am speaking for the 6-apb I have, I cant speak for every single batch, quality or website/vendor. And unfortunately we are not allowed to talk about which vendors are good, so that is out of the question. If we could discuss this it would help to steer people away from bad quality 6-apb.
Most of you seem to think I have bad quality 6-apb and that would explain why I am not enjoying it as many of you are. I got a PM from someone who really made me think, maybe my stuff isnt pure. I know it isn't fake, it definitely has 6-apb because I do know what the color, texture and smell are like through research. Mine fits that 100% Also, the site I get from has nothing but 100% positive feedback on their 6-apb. People are saying it is the highest quality. I have ordered from them times before and never had a problem on any of their substances. Always the highest and purest quality. 99% is what they state. I've had their 4-MEC which was very potent, which also contradicts many reports here.
I think the misleading info from 6-apb comes from all the different batches, as well as that it is a very subjective drug. I was told my batch could of had a mixture of MDAI with the 6-apb. I have not tried MDAI on its own so not sure how that would be, but I heard through reading reports that it is like a weak sertonin drug. But the 6-apb/MDAI mixture I supposedly have, wouldnt that just make it more serotogenic? I think the reason I came down within an hour last time I did the 6-apb was because I only did a very small amount. So that is why it didnt last long. The other times I did it, it lasted hours. The first time, I did a high dose and lasted over 7 hours. I had to smoke some weed to get the trip really going though. I did enjoy the 6-apb when mixed with other drugs, such as weed or 4-FA. But not mixed with alcohol.
So please dont freak out people, just posting true info on the 6-apb I got from a very popular site. One of the best sites online, and some of you probably order there, so that is why I am warning potential new customers that the 6-apb is dodgy. Real or not, it's no good. I am still willing to give another vendor a try, and then I can come back and tell you who their's is. unfortunately we can't name the sites. Too many different qualitys, synths, etc. But even this batch I have which again, comes from a site without a single complaint on their 6-apb. At least if there were complaints no one ever posted them in thier feedback. But someone did PM and tell me their friend also said the batch they had from there felt like a piperazine. I know what pipes feel like, I've done them many times.
XTC4life- Did you ever clear your PM folder? I wanted to send you a message. Let me know
^ 6apb at 50mg doses would not produce the slightest euphoria. When I first got my batch I was being a little to careful and took only 70mg and was only left with slight stimulation, but then all of a sudded 30 more mg and it turned into a euphoric mess haha.
150mg is where you really wanna be at though. When I figured that out there was no going back.
I got euphoria from probably less than 50 mg's. I am very sensitive to psychedelics. So not everyone is the same. While it wouldn't produce euphoria for you, it did for me. But it only lasted an hour. Not worth it. 4-FA does infact last all night. That doesnt mean the empathy lasts all night from one dose. But you can redose and keep it going with alcohol. Like 4life said, beer goes down like water with that shit. No bad side effects and you can redose. This leads to me feeling like I'm rolling all night, and I can sleep whenever I'm ready. 4-FA to me is like a miracle drug, and by far and large, I know 100% it is a better drug than 6-apb, bottom line. It's healthier, less side effects, can be redosed more which means it will last longer than 6-apb, stronger euhoria etc. So even the best quality 6-apb would still not be able to top the 4-FA.
I could not imagine re-dosing 6. Possibly while I was coming up or right before the peak, but closer to the end would be absolute hell. The intense forceful stimulation I felt after dosing 6 was completely fucked. I can fall asleep after MDMA and MDA, but this 6 is more like trying to fall asleep on LSD. The comedown is a good 6 hours long, followed by residual heavy afterglow (compared to MDMA's light afterglow). MDA and 6 can feel similar because both will knock you flat and floor you. MDA is far cleaner though, 6-apb feeling heavy and dirty; heavy with an opiate feeling. 6-apb and MDA both share a lack of empathy ("I love everything and everyone") for me compared to MDMA, but MDA and 6 overwhelm me with the most insatiable sexual urges I have ever experienced; almost to the point of affecting my trip negatively. MDA is FAR cleaner feeling compared to 6 though; on MDA I feel oh so content to spend my entire night writhing in a bed and get foot massages, on 6 I am content with laying down for a bit, then I have to move, then I need to sit, then move again almost like I'm fighting boredom, or my brain can't make up it's mind about this chemical.
It should never replace MDA or MDMA, but it definitely could if it needed to.
See now that I am stating true bad experiences with "6-apb powder" now others are coming out more and more and stating their true opinions on it. And a lot of them aren't good. The way you just described 6-apb is identical to what I experienced. The drug is boring. Plain and simple, I actually wanted to turn off the music everytime I did it. Just sitting in silence is better on 6-apb...and that's pretty sad when it's supposed to have the potential of a rolling drug. MDA is far cleaner too in my opinion. But in that chance I do have a bad batch, then obviously a good batch would be better than my experience. I am obviously not speaking for every batch on the planet, just what I have. (Which again comes from one of the best sites so I feel the need to warn people about 6-apb due to the high potential of getting one of these "Batches") But no one complained about this batch. So I used common sense. Not many complain in these threads, so I believed I did have 100% real genuine 6-apb. Site says 99% pure so that would be false advertising if that were not true. People should be warned about 6-apb, it can cause a disaster of a night, where as 4-FA will provide a very fun time for almost anyone who tries it. Why risk taking 6-apb if you are new to these substances, the 4-FA I've received has always been high quality. Just make sure you research your site before you purchase.
smell? colour? side effects?
just suppose you had never had real 6-apb, how would you know precisely how it smells? even then that wouldn't be a sure indication that you indeed had that compound. impurities can alter the smell significantly. the best amphetamine i've had smelt like apples and the second best like used underwear.
for colour it's the same, different methods of synthesizing a compound (and the effort taken to purify it) lead to a different appearance, so again that's no way to tell what you got.
your mention of side effects is a bit funny since they don't actually fit with the consensus here on the board that well. duration also does not, which is a much better indicator, but still not even all of the above could help you unequivocally indentify the substance you have got. i don't want to discount your experience (with whichever chemical you tried), but for the sake of harm reduction: there is no way to identify your substance without LAB TESTING! a colour reagent test can give you a rough guess, but there's no way to be sure without having it tested in a lab. i've had some 6-apb lying around for six months and still haven't tried it because i haven't yet had the chance to send it to the lab.
This I totally disagree with. You can certainly identify your substance without a lab. Now, the impurities, no I dont expect to identify them. But the site says 99% pure so why would I worry about 1%? It was brought to my knowledge that someone else may of had a impure batch mixed with MDAI. Let me ask first- Has Anyone here done MDAI and 6-apb mixture? If so, how did it feel? Like a piperazine? I hear MDAI mixes well with many things, it is unfortunately it could ruin such a substance like 6-apb which I thought had great potential. So bottom line, I know I have real 6-apb but there is no way I can know what else is in there. But to me it's obvious to know what drug you have by look, taste, smell. I've got a trained eye for that. You could call it a special ability, as not many others can do this but I've always been able to know exactly what drugs were in my xtc pills when I used to take them. I was never suprised except twice. I was wrong twice out of over 1000 times. Once I was fooled into think a bad bean was a good bean and vice versa. And I wasn't fooled easily, what happened was I got one of those crappy Transformer piperazine cut outs, (knew it was a pipe before I even bought it) and along with that (from the same guy) came a Yellow Devil. I had not looked up the beans online and the devil looked like a pipe, just like the cut out. Add to that, I had never gotten an MDMA pill and a Pipe pill at the same time from the same guy. I even tasted the Devil and tasted sweet like a pipe (MDMA pills never taste like this) so I decided to eat the Devil first. Low and behold I felt the come up and I knew this couldn't be a piperazine. Before I knew it I was rolling balls. And then I confirmed by reading reports that these were strong MDMA pills. I actually trolled balls that night though cuz I took the piperzine with the MDMA. (NOT Recommended, can be deadly) I've done this several times and everytime it makes the roll for me much more intense, on another level. MDMA on it's own was weak for me as I over did it. Only other time I was wrong, was when the dealer tried to fool me. I am the one who taught him about beans and what to look for in a real pill (normally more powderly, but not always. Usually less crystally. DXM and Pipes appear crystalls, but I can easily tell them apart just by looking at and tasting the pill.
