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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 3)

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Ye it's strange about the trippiness thing.

I haven't had any sort of trippiness I could speak of with 6 and I've gone up to 120mg which was way too much for me- I know now not to go on other ppl's doses on here and know to cut it down alot for me.

5 like some others have said I found more of a 'body load'. Also more of a spaced out mongyness to it. 6 has been more straight euphoria.

1st time I had 5 I had some of the strongest visuals I've ever had but now since I had it without I am attributing to 1st having had mdpv earlier but then mdppp after 100mgs of 5. Also had a horrible comedown so won't be doing it again. The visuals were immense tho super neon fractals but at the same time organic. Anyhow I'm not really looking for that again, and it seems strange that a stim had that effect but kind of interesting.

I find both overwhelming (ended up lying/rolling on my bed feeling psychotic staring at the ceiling for a few hours til it wore off each time to differing degrees depending on doses) when I've done 80mg plus (I unsuccessfully tried to get more stim out of them) but still lacking in the stim dept. which is why I'm gonna try mixing with a stim- small doses of each.

I've definitely found that the effects differ from person to person. 1 of my friends uses it simply for the euphoria, as you mentioned, another of my friends has a huge tolerance to it and I myself love it for the tripiness and don't get a lot of euphoria from it. The visuals are just amazing and comparable to my only acid trip lol. Sometimes it has a dirty feel to it though.
 
I've definitely found that the effects differ from person to person. 1 of my friends uses it simply for the euphoria, as you mentioned, another of my friends has a huge tolerance to it and I myself love it for the tripiness and don't get a lot of euphoria from it. The visuals are just amazing and comparable to my only acid trip lol. Sometimes it has a dirty feel to it though.


Hmm I'd prob put that more to doses. 120mg was highest I've gone as was WAY more than I would have liked. Also gave me crushing depression after. Wouldn't ever do that again.

I just want it for a nice yet distinct :) moodlift with a lil stim. to pep it up.

I like nice and pedestrian trips these days if anything just to give me a reset from the ratrace.

Looks like I'll be going with the powder though form what others say to be safe since I've dealt with it before and know what to expect there purity wise.
 
the first and second batch were much better than any of the other batches that followed. When i first done the pellets i thought they were absoloutly amazing, great euphoria and brilliant visuals etc. Havenet been able to capture that with it recently but its still one of the best R.Cs out there imo. Ive started to use the powder lately as the pellets have been a bit inconsistent and ive had to up my tolerence to 125mgs.

I agree, the visuals I got from the first 2 batches were amazing. I'm not getting that as much with the new pellets or powder. Still having a great time with it though but the visuals are less :(
 
Can negative stimulant-like effects (i.e. jaw tension, bruxism) of 6APB be reduced by a beer or two? How is mixing with alcohol?

And does anyone get diarrhea on comedown? I was hoping to use some loperamide just before coming down, or maybe another opioid.
 
I don't know if alcohol would help with jaw tension but magnesium would. I've drank alcohol every time i've taken 6-apb and it probably takes the edge off a bit (I don't mean I would freak out otherwise, just that after a few beers i'm relaxed and i'm not sitting waiting for the come up as much). Every time i've consumed 6-apb with alcohol i've had a very enjoyable time however it could be different for you so maybe just have a few beers and see how you feel?

I also get the shits when i'm coming up, not the comedown as you mentioned. Annoying but atleast i'm prepared for it now lol.
 
I don't alcohol much so I'll stick with few beers for the whole night anyway, and that one dose of APB.

About the shits, would loperamide work without affecting the trip? I've been taking it once in "hard" situation and it really helped me, I didn't feel any opiate effects (thank god).
 
Dunno if this harm reduction but 6-apm is bloody nice with ghb. Mind you GHB is nice with most stims
 
First experience with 6-APB this evening, 250mg of a greyish crystalline powder that easily clumps, souced from well known website run by well respected and knowledgable UK vendor. I like it. Few grains insufflated for allergy test, initial dose 120mg approx eyeballed from weighed sample, dropped into a small vodka and coke along with 60-70mg AMT eyeballed from 100mg sample, of which over last few months experimenting with AMT doses of up to 250mg in one session. Come up even on a completely empty stomach was smooth, noticing minor effects after 30mins, with the constricted feeling I get round my throat noticeable for the first hour. It's not nausea as such, but didn't feel a need to test it drinking anything til that had settled then a nice leisurely build over the next 60mins or so to what feels like peak.

Redosed with the remainder of the 250mg about 5 hours in. Tried smoking a small pile on foil - melts to deep caramellish colour similar to brown, but doesn't run too well, seems there's an oily, waxy viscosity to it, and tastes rank - synthetic and chemical.

6 hours in now, redose I did 5 hours in defintely kicking back in, and been quite happy to chill to some tunes at home chatting shit on the internet- suspect it could be properly euphoric in it's own right, in the right club with some good music driving it, but not as full on as an MDMA high. AMT without question main driver of massive serene euphoria. No real body load I'm overly aware of apart from sweating more. No real chewing / gurning but slight jaw tension. Eyes are startling to feel like the could bo with a rest, and there's hints of how the comedown's gonna feel just niggling away at the temples but no biggie. Feel pretty damn horny on it, and can easily run with pornographic mental imagery, but not sure how sex would be on it. It all apparently works, but usual story with stims, particularly E like ones of there just not a whole lot of it to look at. :lol: Suspect sex in the mood I'm inright now would be nicely leisurely chilled, sensously intimate, as opposed to swinging noisily from chandeliers being deep down and dirty,.

Feel as though it's help cut some of the harsher edges off the AMT, which I find can sometimes be brutally confusing on the come up at higher does, having a surprisingly dark aspect to it sometimes at anything much over 80 - 100mg doses. Lovely well defined and detailed kaledoscopic CEVs, obvious OEVs with subtle but deep fractal like patterning in the pile of a towel for instance, all colours equally intense but inclined towards purples, blues, pinks. Visuals are all AMT at the minute, impossible to say what the 6-APB might be contributing to the geometric and plastic like surfaces, CGI-like so couldn't say whether I'd expect 'em from the 6-APB by itself. Good old school ambient dance and electronica
like Fluke, Orb, Primals, Ulrich Schnauss well suited, as are psychedlia-tinged stoner punks like Kyuss / QOTSA.

The combo feels as near I can remember what some of the Es goin round mid - late nineties felt like when yer genuine MDMA pills were getting harder to come by at the price everyone thought they should be paying for a pill, but no rush, just a smooth fine-grained tingling of skin and scalp with deep fuzziness round the temples, so maybe MDAish? Smoother than you'd get from 'phet anyways, less brazen, and oddly less synthetic. Someone mentioned the old snowballs that were kicking about mid 90s. Good analogy I think. Feels in many respects much as I remember them being.

On the whole, worth my while making the test. Will probably repeat the combo, think I dosed about right for a first experiment with the two. Would I buy 6-APB on its own, on its own merit? If I was going clubbing? No, i'd cough up the 40 quid or whatever a gram of MDMA was costing that weekend and have done with it, but as an ageing old armchair raver making the most out of a little oasis of calm while the mrs is away, it's working out nicely as a solitary guilty pleasure
 
^How can you say that most of the effects where AMT if you were under the influence of 6-apb aswell? Not really a fair test mixing it with another drug on your first time trying. Also the 6-apb powder I've been getting is brown.
 
First experience with 6-APB this evening, 250mg of a greyish crystalline powder that easily clumps, souced from well known website run by well respected and knowledgable UK vendor. I like it. Few grains insufflated for allergy test, initial dose 120mg approx eyeballed from weighed sample, dropped into a small vodka and coke along with 60-70mg AMT eyeballed from 100mg sample, of which over last few months experimenting with AMT doses of up to 250mg in one session. Come up even on a completely empty stomach was smooth, noticing minor effects after 30mins, with the constricted feeling I get round my throat noticeable for the first hour. It's not nausea as such, but didn't feel a need to test it drinking anything til that had settled then a nice leisurely build over the next 60mins or so to what feels like peak.

Redosed with the remainder of the 250mg about 5 hours in. Tried smoking a small pile on foil - melts to deep caramellish colour similar to brown, but doesn't run too well, seems there's an oily, waxy viscosity to it, and tastes rank - synthetic and chemical.

6 hours in now, redose I did 5 hours in defintely kicking back in, and been quite happy to chill to some tunes at home chatting shit on the internet- suspect it could be properly euphoric in it's own right, in the right club with some good music driving it, but not as full on as an MDMA high. AMT without question main driver of massive serene euphoria. No real body load I'm overly aware of apart from sweating more. No real chewing / gurning but slight jaw tension. Eyes are startling to feel like the could bo with a rest, and there's hints of how the comedown's gonna feel just niggling away at the temples but no biggie. Feel pretty damn horny on it, and can easily run with pornographic mental imagery, but not sure how sex would be on it. It all apparently works, but usual story with stims, particularly E like ones of there just not a whole lot of it to look at. :lol: Suspect sex in the mood I'm inright now would be nicely leisurely chilled, sensously intimate, as opposed to swinging noisily from chandeliers being deep down and dirty,.

Feel as though it's help cut some of the harsher edges off the AMT, which I find can sometimes be brutally confusing on the come up at higher does, having a surprisingly dark aspect to it sometimes at anything much over 80 - 100mg doses. Lovely well defined and detailed kaledoscopic CEVs, obvious OEVs with subtle but deep fractal like patterning in the pile of a towel for instance, all colours equally intense but inclined towards purples, blues, pinks. Visuals are all AMT at the minute, impossible to say what the 6-APB might be contributing to the geometric and plastic like surfaces, CGI-like so couldn't say whether I'd expect 'em from the 6-APB by itself. Good old school ambient dance and electronica
like Fluke, Orb, Primals, Ulrich Schnauss well suited, as are psychedlia-tinged stoner punks like Kyuss / QOTSA.

The combo feels as near I can remember what some of the Es goin round mid - late nineties felt like when yer genuine MDMA pills were getting harder to come by at the price everyone thought they should be paying for a pill, but no rush, just a smooth fine-grained tingling of skin and scalp with deep fuzziness round the temples, so maybe MDAish? Smoother than you'd get from 'phet anyways, less brazen, and oddly less synthetic. Someone mentioned the old snowballs that were kicking about mid 90s. Good analogy I think. Feels in many respects much as I remember them being.

On the whole, worth my while making the test. Will probably repeat the combo, think I dosed about right for a first experiment with the two. Would I buy 6-APB on its own, on its own merit? If I was going clubbing? No, i'd cough up the 40 quid or whatever a gram of MDMA was costing that weekend and have done with it, but as an ageing old armchair raver making the most out of a little oasis of calm while the mrs is away, it's working out nicely as a solitary guilty pleasure

Call me a lightweight, but if I ate 60 to 70 mg of AMT I wouldn't recognize the high from 6-APB if it sat down and drew a diagram, but then I've never hit 250 mg AMT in a session either. It may be worth giving 6-APB a go on its own though, it has its own merits.
 
^How can you say that most of the effects where AMT if you were under the influence of 6-apb aswell? Not really a fair test mixing it with another drug on your first time trying. Also the 6-apb powder I've been getting is brown.

Because I've done AMT enough times at that dose level to recognise AMT effects. I agree it wasn't probably a fair test, though I do feel I could distinguish to some extent which effects were down to AMT, and which were added by the 6-APB, although I suspect it's probably true that there are similar effects from both, each enhancing and moderating the other. Takes a good 2 hours for AMT to really kick in with me, so the rising euphoria and buzz at +1 hour I'd say were mostly down to the 6-APB. I'd expect it to be quite pleasurable on its own.

Oh, and just had a look at the remains of the bag, and you're quite right, it's nearer to a pale brown than grey I guess. Maybe laid out next to the dirty orange of the AMT it looked a bit insipid, but yeah, it's more brown.

Had a good sleep this afternoon, managed quite easily and naturally 16 hours after taking first dose. Could have slept earlier I think if I'd been inclined. Can't say as I've got much in the way of a comedown, and perfectly functional. Nothing like the comedown E or speed for example. Just a slightly fogginess round the temples. Seems equally smooth all the way through. Good.
 
Guys do ur research on the vendors, when u get the real deal this stuff blows mdma out of the water IMO, I bombed 125mg the other night for the first time and the euphoria is unbeleivable, best drug I have ever had, couldnt reccomend it highly enough, only downsides vs mdma are the increased jaw tension and inability to sleep during comedown
 
Found this on EcstasyData http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2106 So the 6-APB going around isn't even 6-APB according to that test!

Not sure you could properly reach that conclusion based on the evidence you've presented. All you could say is a sample apparently offered up for testing by someone who apparently thought they'd been sold 6-APB, or claimed it was 6-APB turned out not to be 6-APB, apparently. Too many apparentlys in there altogether to draw a general conclusion, dontcha think? ;) Looks nothing like what I bought anyways?

Guys do ur research on the vendors, when u get the real deal this stuff blows mdma out of the water IMO, I bombed 125mg the other night for the first time and the euphoria is unbeleivable, best drug I have ever had, couldnt reccomend it highly enough, only downsides vs mdma are the increased jaw tension and inability to sleep during comedown

Oddly, didn't suffer anything like the jawing and inability to sleep I'd expect from MDMA, which begs the question, you sure you had 6-APB, or alternatively, if you think 6-APB is the more euphoric at that dose, you sure you had MDMA previously? :? I'm aware there is an obvious cororally to this paragraph that will allow you an easy touche . . . ;)

Had a general pain in the kidneys the last day or so. Not yer MDMA-comedown-like dull, lower spinal column type ache. Properly located about the kidneys. Gone now, but anyone else experienced that?
 
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Well I am a member of another forum, not sure if I am allowed to mention it so I wont ? But they test purity etc. from all different vendors and I can assure you its 6APB.

You say you cant sleep after MDMA, I fall asleep with ease? 6-APB however keeps me up for a bit.

Yes I am sure I have had mdma before lol!! Had a few of the gold maple pills on pillreports that were rocket fuel but they still dont match my APB experience, the guys on the other forums agree that APB is a special chem.

When you try the real deal you guys will know where i am comin from
 
To both mufc1 and Sepher, you are both right depending on how you think about it. I've had both, and MDMA is slightly speedier than 6-APB, although they are similar in that regard. MDMA has a shorter duration and crashes faster than 6-APB, so it takes less time to get to sleep after the peak than 6-APB, even though it is speedier. 6-APB is a slightly more relaxed experience, but the comedown is very long so it takes a while to get to sleep. I personally get jaw clenching with both. This is also just my own personal experience with both substances.
 
I went well over the top last weekend and had 200mg at once. My jaw was chattering, and I mean chattering at an alarming speed non-stop for over 8 hours, seriously. Even when I tried to talk, it wouldn't stop! :D Euphoria was through the roof (again, for over 8 hours) as was empathy. About 3 hours in the intensity was a little much but it settled down again after about an hour and a half. I didn't find it all that psychedelic though I never have. Even though it was such an amazing experience I have no desire to repeat it for a week or two which is good considering I want Mephedrone all the time, I guess 6-APB isn't as fiendy as other drugs as I didn't want to redose when I had comedown. :D Shame it's going to be banned soon!
 
dont think anyone could give me a real definitive answer but taking it 2 nights in a row normally take 2 pellets to feel it...how much more would i need for second night or maybe mix it with moclobemide to make it stronger..does moclobemide work with 6-apb in the same way it does mdma?
 
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