The Big & Dandy 2C-D Thread

[THEALLKNOWING]

Despite perceptions to the contrary, the two don't have to exclude each other. Inside of your desire for sensual pleasures is lurking a key to furthering your spirituality.

Thanks for the detailed info. I've been wanting to try 2C-D again for a while now as I haven't fully explored it, and I think the next attempt will be this weekend. I'll be sure to warn my wife about your report. :D

stock up on condoms or lather yourselves in spermicide

 

[Dr Mamba]

300 mg ! 4aco DIPT is nice but everything, even the nicest, can become desagreeable if you dont know when to stop
For me 20 mg is ok, 4acoDIPT is just a nice/short acting little enhanser.
It dont pretend to be a trip, you got a lot off other tripping/visual stuff you can use instead of raping that nice and freindly 4acoDIPT :D
I aggre you can go far more in the psychedelic territory if you want to with 2CD.

 

[THEALLKNOWING]

300 mg ! 4aco DIPT is nice but everything, even the nicest, can become desagreeable if you dont know when to stop
For me 20 mg is ok, 4acoDIPT is just a nice/short acting little enhanser.
It dont pretend to be a trip, you got a lot off other tripping/visual stuff you can use instead of raping that nice and freindly 4acoDIPT :D
I aggre you can go far more in the psychedelic territory if you want to with 2CD.

i've taken 10 different 30mg doses of 4acodipt spread out over 7 years.300mgs at once would be WAY more hardcore than i ever want to be.i never feel the need to push past 30mgs.thats my sweet spot

 

[eatcod]

Hardly peer-reviewed but I can vouch that MDAI or MDMA+2C-D gets you into a state that scientists might call 'nicely fucked'. Great buzz and intense visuals.

2C-D is very very nice all by itself though - 25-30mg seems to be about the sweet spot. Underrated and in need of more research, this one.

 

[any major dude]

Hardly peer-reviewed but I can vouch that MDAI or MDMA+2C-D gets you into a state that scientists might call 'nicely fucked'. Great buzz and intense visuals.

2C-D is very very nice all by itself though - 25-30mg seems to be about the sweet spot. Underrated and in need of more research, this one.

How'd the MDAI with 2c-d go? I've been contemplating this one for a bit now, but when I combined 2c-e with MDAI, it all but negated the 2c-e. I think this has something to do with MDAI being a competitive agonist & 2c-e not, but I'm unsure of 2c-d's status in that regard. Tried the 2c-d+M1 combo recently, and it was great, I was thinking adding a pinch or two of MDAI might be even better.

 

[Ralt]

.2c-D is too erotic for me to ignore that side of it ,especially when you have a pretty female with you.balance my friend

I'm gonna agree 100%, I was tripping 40mg 2c-D with a very pretty girl and I literally had an erection for hours, I was getting worried, like on those viagra commercials they say having an erection for over four hours can cause health problems. Later, I jerked it for something like 40 minutes on the tail end of the trip when she passed out and I got bored of music.

 

[Listening]

Hope to hear a trip report afterwards, there is not nearly enough trip reports on this amazing substance

Not enough material for a trip report, so I'll just post my quick thoughts from this weekend's experiment here.

Took 55mg. The comeup was a lot more difficult than I expected. I was jittery/cold/nauseous/uncomfortable for about 45 minutes of coming up (my comeups on all psychedelics can be uncomfortable to a certain extent, but this one was particularly bad / hard to ignore). I meditated for about 30 minutes of the comeup, hoping it would help, and it did, but only towards the end. If I was a more experienced meditator, I might have fared better, but as it is I was no match for the restlessness that came over me.

Once the trip settled in, there was no more discomfort. Despite wanting to test the erotic side of this drug, I knew that my wife would be busy the entire time cooking (for guests coming later), so I was on my own. Instead I listened to music, including a first listen of Belle & Sebastian's newest album, Write About Love. True to promises, 2C-D is awesome with music. Sound felt distorted/wobbly, but in a way that exaggerated and enhanced the style. It felt like the music was "holographic" - existing in 3D space around me. I followed along with the written lyrics as I listened to the music, and interpretations of these songs brought the experience to another level. These songs are masterful and somehow manage to pack a ruthless commentary (ex. about certain lifestyles), into the most gentle and unassuming of packages. The contrast here reminded me of the method of psychedelic drugs themselves: the lessons are harsh, but the delivery is benevolent. Also, at least two of the songs on the album are downright hilarious; I almost started choking from laughter.

Visually, the drug was somewhat underwhelming. Unlike on other psychedelics, it seems that I wasn't intuitively attracted to the visuals, even though there was a significant (if hard to define) distortion everywhere. The OEVs seemed somewhat unique to me compared to other psychedelics. Rather than things multiplying at the macro level like usual, instead it seemed that materials exhibited this multiplicity at the micro-level. Many times I was caught looking at something and feeling that the material that comprised it was denser than normal - as if there were more atoms than usual packed into the same space. Looking at a glass gave me the feel that the glass was tense and might spontaneously crack.

The head-space was very psychedelic, but also seemed somewhat neutral. It reminded me more of 2c-e than of any other psychedelic I've done (but it's been about a year since I did 2c-e, so I could be off). As usual for me, weed was necessary to bring out the best of the experience.

Overall a great experience but I need to repeat it - I still don't think I got a full feel of the effects. I am tempted to try this one at a concert (as others have suggested) but am worried about the harsh comeup.

 

[Psychonautical]

I have a g-unit *lawl* of 2c-d on it's way to me.
I find 2c-i to be immensely shallow and insanely manic.
I've found 2c-e to be, well godly and hellish.

2c-d i'm hoping lies somewhere right inbetween the blissful and philosophical without throwing too much of the divine the way 2c-e does.


you know how you guys were discussing quite a few pages back about 2c-d lacking only the alpha and the ethyl group for it to be DOM...

imagine this for a flip...
Alphamethyltryptamine + 2c-e + 2c-d
All put into one capsule.
Do you think that the digestion of that would allow for one, to experience a somewhat albeit hxcore//crazy way of sending yourself on a "rough" DOM trip



you see imagine that because this is like a lower homologue of DOM, the higher you go, its not the more potent it gets, its the more saturated your receptors become with the chemical.

DOM its very potent so it goes into receptors and binds more efficiently and effectively which is why it is just a more effective version of 2c-d.

I have no interest in actually seeking out or trying DOM, the dosage levels frighten me as does the duration. The duration and flexibility of 2c-d appeals to me.

even though the combination i suggested up there, would probably be a bit intense, i am only merely suggesting it for the simple concept of throwing the idea out there.

it is a curious notion to assume that if one flipped AMT 2c-e and 2c-d all together in one capsule it would produce a psychedelic effect similar to DOM? God bless the chemical synthesis that is out Digestive tract

Anyone agree or disagee?

 

[specialrelativity]

Try with-out the "The Big And Dandy".

 

[THEALLKNOWING]

psychonautical , AMT has MAOI properties and i would recommend keeping it way away from 2c-e , 2c-d or any phenethylamine for that matter.mixing them would be a truly "dumb" thing to do and im sure your smarter than that buddy. ;-)

listening, i can also agree 2c-d enhances music nicely. describing it as "holographic" was a good way to put it.

 

[General Patton]

It seems like a dangerous combo, but if anyone can do it it's Psychonautical! The man with RECEPTORS OF STEEL!! lulz aside, you should just take some 2C-D and speed. People have said that's a pretty win combo before, and if you're willing to take your "chemical synthesis" idea to it's completion, well DOM is pretty much 2C-D + amp. Just keep the dosages on the low side & your receptors are gonna be coated in platinum son.

 

[Crack4Lyfe]

What other drugs would go well with this tofu?

 

[Delsyd]

It seems like a dangerous combo, but if anyone can do it it's Psychonautical! The man with RECEPTORS OF STEEL!! lulz aside, you should just take some 2C-D and speed. People have said that's a pretty win combo before, and if you're willing to take your "chemical synthesis" idea to it's completion, well DOM is pretty much 2C-D + amp. Just keep the dosages on the low side & your receptors are gonna be coated in platinum son.

the experience of taking 2c-d and amp is very different from DOM.

 

[General Patton]

the experience of taking 2c-d and amp is very different from DOM.

Of course, but it might be a little closer than the combo psychonautical posted, I think he's just trying to approximate the effects. 2C-E and 2C-D would be a fascinating combo to explore though, if you took the different durations into account.

 

[Delsyd]

i think i would enjoy 2cc with 2cd

 

[General Patton]

I've thought of doing the same thing, 2C-Drain Cleaner for the mind They're both so clear and lucid, but at the same time lacking something the other has in spades.

 

[any major dude]

i think i would enjoy 2cc with 2cd

definitely a nice combo. feels good on the body, beautiful visuals & not so weird as to be anti-social, but weird enough to not feel shallow, IME, YMMV etc.

This was at 30mg 2c-d & 45mg 2c-c, IIRC

 

[Psychonautical]

lol,
what should we name the AMT 2c-e 2c-d flip.

lets name it the
Research Flip, because obviously whoever does it, is doing it, in the name of science, lol.

 

[THEALLKNOWING]

lol,
what should we name the AMT 2c-e 2c-d flip.

lets name it the
Research Flip, because obviously whoever does it, is doing it, in the name of science, lol.

how about "curiosity killed the cat"?
kind of fits your image lol.seriously dude,id give it up.blatant, reckless behavior is what draws attention to the R.C. scene.i dont know if you were around when web tryp went down but it took about 3 dumbasses to shut down every legit american RC vendor.you seem very intelligent,lets act like it.
https://health.google.com/health/ref/Serotonin+syndrome

 

[Psychonautical]

uh sir, your attitude is not needed.
I know all about serotonin syndrome
But i know plenty of tards on the drone board who have taken
AMT with DRONE and MDMA and plenty of other things with out too much MAOI Interference.

I admitted to AMT + 2ce + 2cd probably being a bad combination, something only the foolhardy would seek out.

But seriously for the amount of people mixing AMT with other super duper serotonin releasing agents i don't think that it's MAOI inhibiting properities are all that strong.
Doesn't really enhance the duration of any tryptamine.