Well since you only had 32 posts and your last post was jumping in a thread just to say ambien sucks and not input on the topic (snorting it) at all then I was wondering how many actual posts you have....
Ambien isnt a soft drug, It can be heavy and obviously increasing dose will make it stronger. But seriously a Drug that can wake people up out of a vegatative state for a few hours cant be a REAL drug 8)
Actually Einstein, I didn't just jump into the thread to say it sucked, I read the thread and then decided it sucked, based on the post content. You want my input? Let me sum up the main points of this thread for you:
1. Snorting ambien burns
2. Snorting ambien makes it kick in faster
3. If you do it right, you can snort both the time-release portion of ambien CR, and the instant release portion
All of these facts are common knowledge (or at least should be) to anyone reading blue light as a registered user. That's why the thread was a joke. It'd be like reading a thread that said "If you crush oxycontin and snort it, it's a lot of fun!".
If you wanted to know how many "real" posts I had, you could have always just clicked my name and viewed my older posts...
Ambien is a soft drug. Its ability to wake people from vegitative states does not put it in a different league than other drugs, since this forum focuses on drugs of abuse and taking ambien for that purpose doesn't really correlate to abuse. I can name a bunch of drugs that can wake people from vegitative states, but they aren't recreational at all and thus aren't considered "hard" or "soft" drugs.
IMO, (and I've been prescribed all the "strongest" benzo's, chloral hydrate, and now secobarbital), ambien is a soft drug. Chloral hydrate and seconal are not. But maybe my point of view is skewed because I also happen to think that every benzo is a soft drug (halcion included). Why? Because they're extremely safe. Quadruple your dose of ambien and you'll be fine, just more messed up. Do the same with chloral hydrate, and you could very well die. Ditto with Seconal. You can take the strongest single dose of any benzo or non-benzo and increase it 10, 20, or 30 fold and not die (presupposing you don't mix anything with it). You can't do the same with chloral hydrate, barbiturates, opiates, etc. My prescribed dose of chloral hydrate was 1.5gm's every night. Death has occured at doses as low as 4gm's. My prescribed dose of seconal is 100mg every night. I'm sure that 600mg would put me in the hospital, and possibly kill me. I can take 40mg of oxycodone at a time without getting sick, if I took 160mg at once, I'm sure I'd be very sick, if not at risk for death. If I were to mix alcohol, a benzo, or practically any other downer with my prescribed dose of either seconal or chloral hydrate, it would surely land me in the hospital, if not my grave. My prescribed dose of xanax is 2mg 3 times a day. I could easily take 20mg of xanax in one go, and not die. Hell I could take 10mg of xanax at once and have a few drinks and probably be okay (no doubt I'd end up unconscious pretty quickly, but I don't think I'd die).
That's where the distinction between a hard and soft drug lies, in my opinion. Do you see why people are calling ambien a soft drug? It's not because ambien doesn't have the ability to mess you up (if you take enough of any recreational drug you'll get messed up), it's because ambien is very safe no matter how much you take, as long as you don't mix it with other drugs, and even if you do mix it with other drugs, it's still no where near as dangerous as mixing, say, barbiturates with other drugs.
