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Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion V. I don't understand this chemical waffle

My mate was at T in the park and said 2 died off Rolex's and I remember there being a warning about green ones at festivals a few years ago and I said I get they're the same ones that have just been stashed away while there was all the bad press circulating about them and then dug out a couple years later.

My question is though about these PMA pills is... Surely they were not the only 2 to have them, infact it's impossible they are so a fair few hundred probably thousand have consumed these as well and they haven't died, how come then it doesn't have the same fatal effect?

Obviously I know each person is different and how many they consumed and what other narcotics they consumed, oh and I'm in no way condoning these being made and PMA being used, just curious why some die and others don't.

I think with PMA it takes longer to take effect, people take them and then nothing happens so maybe they take another and then that's where the problems start. Sad news that they've died, I've seen some videos online of people at T and I'm no stranger to drugs but some of the states people seem to be in is ridiculous!! No idea about dosage they just want to get completely twisted.... Funny to watch but also daft.

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Theres a VERY small margin between beginnings of activity with PMA and hyperthermia/serotonin syndrome, its just generally toxic, noxious shite. I'd not even trust taking it if I made a batch myself. Not that I would ever do it, unless I were totally new to phenethylamine/psychedelic amphetamine chemistry and wanted an inexpensive phenylpropenoid to do trial runs on solely to nail down the reactions needed to perform other such syntheses. If I DID need training wheels like that, I'd immediately dump the result in strong oxidizer or simply set fire to it, after for ex. determination of MP, chromatographic characteristics, colorimetric tests and suchlike. I wouldn't take it, if I DID it would be at no more than 25-30mg and but most likely even if I DID need to experiment on such synths using the inexpensive precursors that would make PMA, or then methylating it to PMMA, burn it. Nasty, toxic, dangerous shite. No thanks.

Y'know something? its the damnable war on unarmed noncombatant citiz...drugs sorry that is 100% responsible for PMA and PMMA. The precursor essential oil and phenylpropenoid content thereof is easily available and cheaply so, much unlike safrole, so of course irresponsible cooks who take absolutely NO pride in their work go for whats cheap and easy, and make either PMA or PMMA instead. Cheap to get the precursors, not ''watched'' anything like safrole and/or isosafrole. So no prize for guessing which is easier, PM(M)A or MDMA. Those just out to make money go for whats cheap and easy. Sadly regrettably few actually go for quality over quantity and over financial gain. Too few have that genuine deep love for their field of work. Its sad, but it is true.



PMA and the like, shits just dangerous filth. Suitable ONLY for a newborn fledging chemist's training wheels and to be, once created, destroyed without even tasting it.
Thankfully precursors for MDA, are far easier to obtain than those for MDMA, although I'm sure there is a suitable protocol for methylating MDA, although yields will of course be less than if one goes straight to MDA and stays there. Involves further work although I haven't looked into doing so. But, no, fuckers still seem determined to synth PMA and PMMA.

Theres been a death right round manchester ways just days ago, a teenage kid dead and two more hospitalized. 'E's are apparently responsible, specific drug as yet unknown, or at least if it is then data hasn't been released when I've been around to watch the news. Been busy hiking today, mushroom picking (not 'shrooms, I mean, mushrooms for the table. Scored two decent sized giant puffballs today, plus a single peppery boletus, and an as yet un-identified coral fungus, although corals are even for experts a family that need specialist literature and microscopy. I don't have specialist books covering corals only, although I do have a most excellent microscope. Cost me a fair bit but its served me well indeed.

Had to dive down a muddy embankment towards a lake to retrieve the puffballs, grabbing a sapling to slow my fall, and then grabbing the trunk of a conveniently situated hawthorn tree, swinging round and scooping them up, and clawing my way up the embankment to hand the giant puffballs over to my old man standing on the pathway. We both have been enjoying those, sliced and fried, just in butter when he did them, but I made giant puffball fritters fried in eggy bread, with a little pepper and salt.
Absolutely delish.


-derailment :p But mmm...I am absolutely fucking stuffed=D
 
You are insane.

Luckily, people like you (hermits) have no physical power.

You couldn't knock out a daffodil.
 
Obviously. Plants are not conscious, sentient entities.

And who the fuck said I'm a hermit.

Oh, and what, precisely MAKES me insane? personally I think I am perfectly sane.

Why, in any case would I WANT to KO a daffodil? extract them for galantamine precursors sure, but otherwise what. the. furry. flying. jesus. H. fuck on a cunting bike?
 
Obviously. Plants are not conscious, sentient entities.

And who the fuck said I'm a hermit.

Oh, and what, precisely MAKES me insane? personally I think I am perfectly sane.

Why, in any case would I WANT to KO a daffodil? extract them for galantamine precursors sure, but otherwise what. the. furry. flying. jesus. H. fuck on a cunting bike?

Let me run my finger up and down your thigh...

Can you smell my musk?

The Nordics told me to stop touching myself.
 
Meh, he should try running his face lovingly against the pavement.

Since he probably has considerable difficulty moving his head and managing to breathe at the same time, I'm only too happy to assist, using the heel of my boot.
Good to see he's had a temp.ban.

Although I hadn't realized inbreeding and bestiality were bannable offenses on BL (or in his case, offense, in the singular tense.

Edit-what is the duration of his ban?
 
ya know, you should prob keep comments like that to yourself, paints quite the pathetic picture, just rise above
 
Orange Tesla time tomorrow. The anticipation is killing me already. I have 2 so it's going to be a wild night. I have awesome coke for the comedown, not sure if it's in the best interest of my health to combine it with viagra, but all I like doing on coke is having dirty sex. I feel so pure on MDMA but like a sexual pervert on coke lol.


Decisions, decisions, decisions. If anyone has had nights like this and lived let me know.
 
My ex partner kept suggesting I took one of a few counterfeit sildenafil tablets she had stashed away for a couple of years, but as our usual drug combo was MDMA and then whizz for the shagging afterwards I always felt the stims were good enough for serious bedroom nasty rude and I didn't want to give myself a heart attack which I was already increasing my exposure to due to the combined amphetamines and the physical exertion of the antics.
 
My ex partner kept suggesting I took one of a few counterfeit sildenafil tablets she had stashed away for a couple of years, but as our usual drug combo was MDMA and then whizz for the shagging afterwards I always felt the stims were good enough for serious bedroom nasty rude and I didn't want to give myself a heart attack which I was already increasing my exposure to due to the combined amphetamines and the physical exertion of the antics.

Why is it that some people don't suffer from stimpotence? I have no problem rousing the monster on MDMA, but all I want to do is cuddle - whereas speed has totally the opposite effect. Sometimes life just isn't fair...
 
My ex partner kept suggesting I took one of a few counterfeit sildenafil tablets she had stashed away for a couple of years, but as our usual drug combo was MDMA and then whizz for the shagging afterwards I always felt the stims were good enough for serious bedroom nasty rude and I didn't want to give myself a heart attack which I was already increasing my exposure to due to the combined amphetamines and the physical exertion of the antics.
I feel like I'll steer clear of everything post MDMA and just sleep it off and get into it the next day. The coke should be better after a night's sleep anyway.

For some reason MDMA makes my heart race but coke doesn't. And the first line of coke gives me a raging hard on. The only thing I can think about is sex. Coke isn't social for me, I just like being dirty on it.

Speed/ meth sounds really interesting, especially the sex part, but I best steer clear with my addictive personality.
 
I just realised it was the anniversary of the great Nikola Tesla this week. I can't think of anything more fitting than taking these Teslas in his honour.
 
MDMA and oestrogen co-administered produce "girl-horniness".

It was kind of weird, knowing that this amazing feeling was something that about half the population of the world will never experience .....
 
IME no need for the oestrogen.

Why are you so for division all the time Julie?

Together as one and all that.
 
MDMA and oestrogen co-administered produce "girl-horniness".

It was kind of weird, knowing that this amazing feeling was something that about half the population of the world will never experience .....

I experience 'girl-horniness' all the time. I only have to be in their presence... ;)
 
MDMA and oestrogen co-administered produce "girl-horniness".

It was kind of weird, knowing that this amazing feeling was something that about half the population of the world will never experience .....

I'm on the oestrogen (only) patch Jules, so what do you mean - if I take mdma I'm going to feel more horny? Can you reference please?

Not sure what "more" horney means tbh. Mdma doesn't usually sex me up, I'm more of a social butterfly on it, shallow as fuck but engaging nevertheless. I'd be horrified to go forth eccied out my wee nut dancing my heart out all randy 8o

Should I be worried about my behaviour, especially in public?
 
I've read of an account of testosterone producing a similar effect, when administered transdermally in a female.

Although the female in question is one hell of a perv. I so would, though.
 
MDMA and oestrogen co-administered produce "girl-horniness".

It was kind of weird, knowing that this amazing feeling was something that about half the population of the world will never experience .....


I intimately know a male individual that gets hypersexual from:

Lexapro, Cymbalta, MDMA -- according to him nipples are more sensitive, orgasms are more intense, and horniness is off the chart

not-combined -- duh!
 
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