Before the MDMA experience that I had last night, I would have agreed with the others that said classical psychedelic euphoria was more genuine, useful and and potentially stronger. With most people, psychedelics are more set-and-setting dependent than empathogens, but after extensively experimenting with both (more so psychedelics) I have came to the conclusion that it works in an opposite manner for me.
Pure MDMA gives me an extreme sense of peacefulness, contentment, and love/empathy towards others, but Ive never gotten the "rush" that others speak of (except with dirty rolls laced with speed. but even then I found it unsettling). I rarely had much of a come-down from MDMA, but I have experienced a slight depression for the following 2-4 days. I only use MDMA about 6 times a year (at most), and the most that I have ever done in a night was 200 mgs (never re-dosing). I consume psychedelics about once a month on average, but most of this is during the summer.
I was about to give up on MDMA because I thought that it was shallow, and did not even hold a candle to the psychedelic "ecstasy" of a good soul-cleansing trip. A lot of this also had to do with my observance of people that heavily abuse MDMA, and the stupid way that they act in that state. However, last night I had the chance to attend an electronic music and arts festival/rave in an old warehouse that featured a world wide variety of of DJs/musicians. I have rolled and tripped at outdoor electronic music festivals, but they were more jam-tronica oriented than rave/dance music (for lack of a better term). The tickets were expensive, so I volunteered in order to get in for free. I also really wanted to get involved in making this event possible, and plan to volunteer at events like this in the future.
While setting up for the event, I met a fellow volunteer from Ireland (I'm from the USA), and we became friends. We hung out after our shifts were over, and agreed to meet up later at the venue after showering and getting something to eat. When I returned to the venue, I watched the first artist play, and then overheard that they needed someone to run the interactive video game stations that were hooked up to projectors, and reacted to the live music. Since it was early, and I was there alone, I decided to take the job. Im usually an extremely shy person, and have a hard time making friends, so this was also an opportunity (without drugs) to help me to come out of my shell and get to know random strangers. Some of the games were 2 player, so I would play with the person if they didn't have a friend with them.
After my shift was over, I took about 20 mgs of 4-ho-dipt, and watched the first few artists play. Towards the end of the trip, I dropped about 150 mgs of MDMA and met up with my Irish friend. We eventually met up with another friend of his, and we got along very well. I also unexpectedly met a fellow co-worker there, which was a bit surprising because I did not know that he was into the rave music/culture. I have been having a lot of stress and tension lately from work, and I seeing him there in my state of mind (rolling) I felt a bond with him, and realized that the issues I was having at work were not as bad as I made them out to be. I spent the rest of the night with my new friends, and I danced my ass off for about 8 hours. I didn't have an excess of energy from the MDMA, but if the music motivated me, it felt like I could reach down, deep inside my soul and channel my existing energy into dancing like Iv'e never danced before. There was no come-down, except for a slight headache, which was resolved with a few glasses of water and a banana.
That night was the first time that I had a +3 experience from MDMA. I could feel the group consciousness and love in the air, and I felt a sense of pride and accomplishment for helping make the event possible, even if my contributions were limited. Others in this thread have said that psychedelic euphoria is more rewarding because you have to mentally work things out for yourself, and the euphoria is a reward. Well last night I felt that my reward was from a combination of helping people, making new friends, and the drug itself. The 4-ho-dipt had mostly worn off by the time that I had consumed the MDMA, so I do not consider it a "flip", although I am sure that the profound afterglow also had an influence on my roll. I do not have much more to add about this matter. But may main point is that for some, ideal MDMA experiences require the same amount of mental and emotional dexterity as psychedelics.
it's alllll good.
