Ayalight, I read all of those articles the day they were published. I think now, and have long said I think sacrament may well not contain any psilomethoxin. I knew this in December before I joined, because they said they’d never proven it with labs in their blog post. I have never held nor endorsed the idea that the identity of chemical compounds is rightly a matter of faith. That’s facepalm talk for me.
I think the church followed Shulgin’s suggestion, stumbled onto something interesting, and leapt to the conclusion that they’d made the psilomethoxin that Shulgin gave only even odds of resulting. Then, with a mix of sincere delusion, lots of drugs, lawyerly chutzpah, and the possibly relaxed scruples required to produce and distribute a psychoactive substance having 2 scheduled precursors, across international borders, with zero fucks given to DEA’s request that such groups file for a religious exemption, they launched a church with a website and an ecommerce platform.
Then they got spanked by people with actual hard chemistry chops, and have retracted their public profile, even changed their name pending a scientific reply to the USONA paper validating that the Gartz/Shulgin method, with details as developed by church, results in a novel substance or substances of interest. Back to the drawing board doesn’t mean descent into deeper more fraudulent fraud, but maybe more humility.
I’ll want more after I run out. I’d really like it not to be as inconsistent or even controversial as it’s been in church hands.
Now you’re just lying…
“…have long said I think sacrament may well not contain any psilomethoxin. I knew this in December before I joined…”
Let’s look at some of your posts..
“Placebo is real, but i can easily differentiate psilomethoxin from psilocybin microdoses blind.”
“This experiment has been almost my only interruption of almost 2 straight months of almost daily Pm microdosing: no tolerance effect as with psilocybin.”
“Granted there’s no proof. I wrote why i still think it’s likely legit here:”
Not one time in your earlier posts did you say you thought it didn’t contain psilomethoxin, quite the opposite.
On top of that you seem to know quite alot of the inside workings of the organization, how the substance is supposedly made, things that you wouldn’t expect someone not affiliated with the church as a higher up to know.
Only after many have proven this is all bullshit do you start saying these things, but of course still trying to sow doubt in the research with comments like “well some of the samples were inconsistent (note: when before you were certain you could feel the difference every time I may add) so maybe they just need to improve their quality of end product.”
Also Snafu brings up good points. How can one differentiate a substance when taking barely perceptible doses? Doesn’t make sense in the slightest. You are taking a dose that you can’t even feel!!
I stand by my words. Although keep trying..
-GC