Please SIGN!! UK ePetition to Legalise Cannabis!

[Ceres]

^ i made that point because it demonstrates there is some efficacy in petitioning if done properly.

regarding the governments own petition website, of course it is going to make mealy mouthed statements in response to things that attack their own politicians like Hunt.

The fact several police comissioners have spoken out in support of deprioritising personal cannabis growing is something the government will have to listen to, and a petition with this many signatures should make them realise there is a lot of public sentiment against prohibition. Will it change anything? Who knows, probably not while Theresa 'reanimated corpse' May is in charge.

edit> progress is made in small steps, there is no alternative to persistent pushing for change thru whatever medium available, that doesn't involve deposing the government by force and putting Snoop Dogg in charge.

 

[ScotchMist]

deposing the government by force and putting Snoop Dogg in charge.

Can we start a petition to get this debated in parliament

 

[Vurtual]

I agree these if these petitons could make a direct difference on the legislative process, they wouldn't exist in the first place, but that isn't their value - their value is in raising awareness of strength of feeling, which can be used to add weight to other more direct campaigns. Of course this is subject to the echo chamber effect, but nonetheless they can be a positive focus for a campaign and can give the lonely activist the feeling that there are some people behind them. It's surely better than no petition isn't it? It also exposes the lie that people are all apathetic (i know it's only a mouseclick, but still) - when people think they can actually make a difference (however erroneously) they really get engaged ime (as in scotland, corbyn-mania, or bernie sanders)

 

[Si Dread]

Some drugs-using wndbags might have spent a huge amount of time, energy & resources fighting the drugs laws & supporting whatever underground political/social movements that aid the cause. Whereas others spend there time accruing huge post counts on social forums which they fill with humourless single line wonders denigrating the actual work of other people.

Others still are just disinclined to admit they lack the balls to put their names down on government petitions, like people who say they don't like cats but are actually just too embarrassed to admit they're scared of 'em.

 

[Sammy G]

Some drugs-using wndbags might have spent a huge amount of time, energy & resources fighting the drugs laws & supporting whatever underground political/social movements that aid the cause. Whereas others spend there time accruing huge post counts on social forums which they fill with humourless single line wonders denigrating the actual work of other people.

Get over yourself, will you?

Shall I make this simple? Imagine that I'm saying this reeeee-aaa-ll-y sloooowww-lllllyyy, okay? Would that help?

Nobody's denigrating anybody's work (inasmuch as setting up an online petition can be regarded as 'work'); all they're doing is expressing healthy scepticism about the government-sanctioned petition system in general, and specifically with regard to instigating changes in drug laws.

As I've said more than once, I'd be delighted to be proven wrong. I don't expect I will, but in the meantime, you could be a darling, actually read a few posts properly and stop being such a po-faced, prissy, eminently-slappable drip. Yeah?

This forum is meant to encourage debate. People like you don't appear to take that on board, and interpret any opinion which differs from their own as a personal attack. So juvenile.

 

[Ceres]

the irony of sammy g calling someone po-faced...

 

[Sammy G]

Post a 'funny' GIF, eh Ceres? Go on...

... actually, you needn't bother.

 

[Ceres]

(sorry, its a jpg not a gif)

 

[Raasyvibe]

[I]Some drugs-using wndbags might have spent a huge amount of time, energy & resources fighting the drugs laws & supporting whatever underground political/social movements that aid the cause[/I]. Whereas others spend there time accruing huge post counts on social forums which they fill with humourless single line wonders denigrating the actual work of other people.

Others still are just disinclined to admit they lack the balls to put their names down on government petitions, like people who say they don't like cats but are actually just too embarrassed to admit they're scared of 'em.

Why? Just WHY!?

It's just a dumb substance that makes lazy cunts even more lazier... with some anxiety and short term memory problems thrown in to boot. Isn't there better things in the world to protest against, with your "huge amount of time, energy and resources"?

Stop being such a blatant... windbag! You heard me....A WINDBAG!!

 

[One Thousand Words]

Cats are stupid. I demand a referendum to be proved I'm wrong

 

[Si Dread]

Get over yourself, will you?

Shall I make this simple? Imagine that I'm saying this reeeee-aaa-ll-y sloooowww-lllllyyy, okay? Would that help?

Nobody's denigrating anybody's work (inasmuch as setting up an online petition can be regarded as 'work'); all they're doing is expressing healthy scepticism about the government-sanctioned petition system in general, and specifically with regard to instigating changes in drug laws.

As I've said more than once, I'd be delighted to be proven wrong. I don't expect I will, but in the meantime, you could be a darling, actually read a few posts properly and stop being such a po-faced, prissy, eminently-slappable drip. Yeah?

This forum is meant to encourage debate. People like you don't appear to take that on board, and interpret any opinion which differs from their own as a personal attack. So juvenile.

... why not lay off the pointless personal attacks & stick with debating the issue then..?

I really do not care about you or your politics or anything else about you. I have no interest you. I only communicate with you to defend myself, & less often my opinions. Have you noticed how little I haunt your threads, how few words we exchange outside of my threads? If you were able to resist populating my threads with your presence our paths might cross less.

Yeah?

 

[Josh]

*sigh* another thread ruined by pointless bickering.

How's about we get vaguely back on topic? Drugs are good, prohibition is pointless, free the weed etc. Something we can all agree on surely?

 

[bummer]

Why? Just WHY!?

It's just a dumb substance that makes lazy cunts even more lazier... with some anxiety and short term memory problems thrown in to boot. Isn't there better things in the world to protest against, with your "huge amount of time, energy and resources"?

Stop being such a blatant... windbag! You heard me....A WINDBAG!!

Speak for yourself.

I find it motivates me when I'm feeling run down.

It makes me chatty in social situations, helps me put things in perspective, helps me sleep, cures aches and pains.

No anxiety.

Short term memory loss. You know what that actually means right ?
If I'm stoned I might forget what I'm talking about mid sentence or walk into a room and forget why I'm there.
I'm not permanently loosing memories.
I can live without it but choose not to. I can hand on heart say that it improves my life.

If there is a god then weed is his gift to the poor as all you need is some sun and rain to grow weed.

It flowers in the autumn and is crispy dry by the winter.

It's a reward for working hard and growing crops to survive the winter and gives us a nice way to chill out round the fires during the long winter evenings.
To me it's so perfect it's one of the few things that keeps my 1% of doubt alive.
( not bringing up religion as it's you, I am just genuinely grateful for the existence of that plant, I'd say the same to anyone )

So maybe it does mess some people up. Just not me and not any of my friends.

Imo it is wrong that I could get arrested for sitting at home and having a quiet read or listening to music when drunks are fighting and draining the a&e departments every Friday and Saturday.

 

[Ceres]

Imo it is wrong that I could get arrested for sitting at home and having a quiet read or listening to music when drunks are fighting and draining the a&e departments every Friday and Saturday.

absolutely.

 

[One Thousand Words]

For everything wrong with smoking weed, surely none of it is as bad as being arrested and receiving a criminal record.

 

[Raasyvibe]

Imo it is wrong that I could get arrested for sitting at home and having a quiet read or listening to music when drunks are fighting and draining the a&e departments every Friday and Saturday.

absolutely.

More absolute nonsense; both of you.

Drunks fighting on a Saturday night are far more likely to end up in police cells than you sitting at home smoking a few buds, chillin out, watching porn/repeated South Park episodes, or whatever...

There is such a law as "Drunk and disorderly" and police are always looking to prove they're not idle and make some work for themselves on a saturday night. In no way does the law cater for drunken violence/public drunken misbehaviour. The law is set up to minimize this and support more conservative drinkers

 

[Treacle]

I really do not care about you or your politics or anything else about you. I have no interest you. I only communicate with you to defend myself, & less often my opinions. Have you noticed how little I haunt your threads, how few words we exchange outside of my threads? If you were able to resist populating my threads with your presence our paths might cross less.

Indeed.

Raas, are you not bored of cluttering the place with your pointless posts, yet? Does your God not teach you not to act like an arsehole to others?

 

[bummer]

More absolute nonsense; both of you.

Drunks fighting on a Saturday night are far more likely to end up in police cells than you sitting at home smoking a few buds, chillin out, watching porn/repeated South Park episodes, or whatever...

There is such a law as "Drunk and disorderly" and police are always looking to prove they're not idle and make some work for themselves on a saturday night. In no way does the law cater for drunken violence/public drunken misbehaviour. The law is set up to minimize this and support more conservative drinkers

Yes you're more likely to get arrested for causing havoc on the streets.

I never said otherwise so your point is moot.

 

[LearntYoung]

I don't have the right to sign it, since I'm not a UK citizen. I would like to let you know I support the petition, though. Cannabis shouldn't even be up for debate, it should've been legal globally for a looooong time.

 

[Raasyvibe]

Imo it is wrong that I could get arrested for sitting at home and having a quiet read or listening to music when drunks are fighting and draining the a&e departments every Friday and Saturday.

Yes you're more likely to get arrested for causing havoc on the streets.

I never said otherwise so your point is moot.

It certainly looks like you're suggesting drunks fighting is fine with the law, otherwise your post makes no sense. You can't make a comparison if they are both illegal.

For everything wrong with smoking weed, surely none of it is as bad as being arrested and receiving a criminal record.

Lot of truth in this. Was watching a documentary the other year on how drugs ruin lives, told a story of a girl who got into the drug scene heavily and ended up being a muel and getting caught.... Spending many years in jai.l the doc. suggested "drugs ruin lives". No they never. The harsh repercussions of the law ruined her life, the drugs she always handled.