How would you go about asking adhd psychiatrist for desoxyn, not prescribed in Aust. I contacted company that would supply if prescribed by dr, off label etc.
I don’t hold much hope, have been self medicating for 10 years on & off undiagnosed adhd, smoked at first, went to goal 6months, successful career, BA Arts, mum. Last 4 years orally 30mg in morning, maybe top up at lunch, never any after midday. Nobody knows. Since informal adhd diagnosis 8 months ago, stopped. Fucking hate it, have assessment Monday. My psychologist supportive desoxyn.
psychedelic assisted therapy 2 weeks
Maybe fuck off stims all together and microcode shrooms or lsd?
Sorry no-one has responded to this sooner. Your story is extremely common in Australia for adult men with undiagnosed ADHD. I read a study once that a very high proportion of first-time offenders entering gaol in Australia were undiagnosed at the time of their offence, or else mis-diagnosed as having bi-polar or some other disorder.
I don’t think asking your psychiatrist directly for Desoxyn (meth) or even any stimulant is the right strategy.
Currently in Australia stimulants are officially the first-line treatment for ADHD. So if your Psychiatrist believes you have it then he’s going to recommend stimulants at some point anyway even if you don’t mention them.
Psychiatrists will prescribe stimulants to ADHD patients with a history of stimulant and other drug addiction. This is because Psychiatrists acknowledge that self-medication with illegal drugs, especially stimulants, is a legitimate and very common symptom of untreated ADHD.
I was diagnosed with ADHD at about age 45 and had been using speed and cocaine on and off my entire life. I was also only 3 months clean from a 6 month IV meth binge (my first experience with meth).
As an addict it worked like this:
1. First psychiatrist gave diagnosis and required 3 months drug free (tested only once) to agree to treat me
2. He offered non-stim med Strattera first but it triggered mania in me. To prescribe stimulants to an ex-addict he was required by law to get a second opinion from another psychiatrist. He sent me to his mate next door amd $300 later I had that.
3. He tried Ritalin first but it made me very jittery so he then tried Dexamfetamine which I found worked perfectly. It took about 3 months to work out the right dose and he was happy to get the special permission to give me more than the max allowed 30 mg a day, but in the end that was enough.
4. I still had cravings for meth and coke for a while but a new psychiatrist added the anti-psychotic Abilify to what I was taking. After that I had no drug cravings of any kind and was basically sober with no ADHD symptoms for the next 5 years.
5. During those 5 years my life was damn near perfect in terms of work and relationships and I had probably never been happier.
So basically my advice is get a referral to a Psychiatrist that specialises in adult ADHD - Google will find one in your area no problem. Try and be totally clean for at least 1 month before you see him, tell him you suspect ADHD (your GP referral should also state this) and want to be tested and know your treatment options (don’t mention stims yet), be honest about your drug history but be clear you are an ex addict and not current user.
If for some reason he does not mention stims as an option ask him why since it is common knowledge they are the main treatment and whether it is because of your drug history. If he says yes, say you know other ex addicts who successfully used prescribed stimulants without relapsing or abuaing them and could he recommend a colleague for a second opinion.
If he wants you to try Stratterra first you should. It might even work and if it doesn’t it proves you are serious about finding the best treatment.
