Tried 8 yesterday. However while waiting for steep, did a wash on some remaining cottons. Left the tea for a few hours, and came back to drink it later. Resulted in similar sort of nothing. Ended up spending most of day in bed with bone pain, despite Oxy (with little experience with this, not sure of correct dose here either.
Finally feeling sort of decent today, found surprise hidden balloon, while waiting for steep of last 12 pods (planning to drink slowly), and did that instead. It ended up steeping for almost 2 hrs. and now there's a cup of cold tea, mixed with apple juice (thanks to Roxi), to be sipped on.
Not knowing age & experience of those who are raving about it, makes it difficult to know if it will ever be satisfying. i.e. get no kicks from Vico, 4's, or even the Oxy. Never ran across Fent. Maybe another pod variety should tried (Arizona was used). Just read that Taz is loaded with thebaine. Or maybe Turk.
Not sure how many $'s (of already depleted accounts) should be spent on this experiment. Am also afraid of headaches/nausea.
About varying with other opiates, don't know of many others available. This is all in attempt to finally stop doing push-ups and punching holes. It never overtook most other parts of life, i.e. many other priorities, and don't want to start spending major hours on this either. Or becoming a major bore.