The great thing about E is that it is NOT addictive
That's an excuse we all use to justify what is, at the end of the day, a drug like any other. Okay, so there is no physical withdrawal if you come off of it after extended periods of use, but we all know that addiction is 50% mental.
The way it makes you feel, the lifestyle that goes with it, these are the reasons why people overdo it ... Doesn't make you stupid. Think about it, it's a well known fact that Sigmund Freud was a heavy user of cocaine, I doubt anyone could call him stupid could they?.
I use E every weekend, 2 - 2 1/2 pills each Saturday. I don't think I'm stupid - I have a good job (techie support, which pays good money), my own home and car, and a wide circle of friends... not all of them use pills, though some do.
I can't answer for Tlw20grl, but for me it makes me a different person ... I like dancing but won't do it sober, not even pissed but will when I've had a pill... I'm the life and soul of the party, I get funnier, I'm everyone's friend - and they're mine. That's not stupidity, that stems from a desire to be something you want to be rather than what you are.
And what are the consequences? Terrible Tuesday's, a little nausea, "head buzzing", short term memory problems, insomnia, slurred speech, the constant colds and flu... It's worth it for that feeling it gives you, even if it only lasts a couple of hours. What's wrong with that? My body, my choice.
As an adult that is a decision I have made. Stupid in some people's opinions, but that is all it is - an opinion, which we are all entitled to. Twl20grl was warning people what happens if you overdo it, which she has every right to and can say it with confidence because it comes from experience.
How can she be stupid when she realises she has made a mistake and wants to warn others?. She wasn't aying never take ecstasy because it will kill you, she was warning what might happen if you abuse it. Not everyone knows about the side effects, when I started using it (as a cute but naive 16-year-old) I knew nothing about the long term effects, nothing about postloading, nothing about moderation. They cost £20 each back then (1993) so I was forced to moderate the usage but things are different now and it's easy to go off the rails a bit. It's only in the past couple of months that I've found out about using prozac and 5HTP as postloads.
Perhaps Twl20grl and myself have addictive personalities. I smoke cigarettes (pack a day, have done since 13-years-old) and usually smoke a joint before bed... Maybe I'm genetically predisposed to get addicted to things, who knows?. The point is, it's not stupid to overuse something, it's weakness. We've all done things we later knew were wrong, Twl20grl has realised she did something really bad to herself and jsut wants to let others know how easy it is to do the same... There's no need to judge her for it, she's only trying to help others (like me) who are doing the same thing.
As beatbeat said a while back, considering Bluelight is supposed to be a "community" linked by a love for a drug that promotes empathy, friendship and love, if you dare to be different you get a lot of shit for it... It's called a "discussion" forum. That implies "discussion". Not "insult", not "abuse", but "discuss". That's D-I-S-C-U-S-S. It means "talk about things". Try it, it can be fun.
CW
"Moderation is the key" - Pile of shit !