The_Winner
Bluelighter
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Hi!
I guess first of all we should agree on at least some sort of definition of enlightenment. I would suggest it to be permanent mindfulness at all times and the absence of desire or suffering, free of any identification with ones ego.
I've been reading a lot of trip reports, in which people describe their ego-deaths and this is pretty much the reason I'm fascinated by psychedelic drugs. But it seems as if these ego-death experiences are only partial or other times short-lived.
There are lots of people, who have told, that a trip has changed their life forever, but I'm not very sure, if any of these people has really reached enlightenment. Of course, it's totally awesome, if a trip can change someones life for the better.
Do you know anyone or maybe yourself, who has attained this state I described using any kind of drugs?
The reason I'm asking is, that I'm not really sure, if I want to try out dosing more than a normal dose of mushrooms or maybe LSD (if I could get any) and risk losing my sanity.
I've been pondering on the idea of becoming a buddhist monk, but I do like shortcuts and psychedelics could be one of them.
I can understand, that from other peoples point of view it will be easy to say that just become a monk and go the safe way, but if I knew for sure, that psychedelics could "help me" in pretty much the same way, I guess I would take the easy, but a bit risky way.
I've done shrooms (cubensis) twice, but both were about 2g doses, so not really something, that would force you into ego-death, if you are trying to cling to the "usual" reality and afraid to let go, as I was (since I had had a few super frightening trips on smoking too large dose of Spice mix (consisting JWH-018), just recently before trying them shrooms for the first time).
Thanks in advance,
me
I guess first of all we should agree on at least some sort of definition of enlightenment. I would suggest it to be permanent mindfulness at all times and the absence of desire or suffering, free of any identification with ones ego.
I've been reading a lot of trip reports, in which people describe their ego-deaths and this is pretty much the reason I'm fascinated by psychedelic drugs. But it seems as if these ego-death experiences are only partial or other times short-lived.
There are lots of people, who have told, that a trip has changed their life forever, but I'm not very sure, if any of these people has really reached enlightenment. Of course, it's totally awesome, if a trip can change someones life for the better.
Do you know anyone or maybe yourself, who has attained this state I described using any kind of drugs?
The reason I'm asking is, that I'm not really sure, if I want to try out dosing more than a normal dose of mushrooms or maybe LSD (if I could get any) and risk losing my sanity.
I've been pondering on the idea of becoming a buddhist monk, but I do like shortcuts and psychedelics could be one of them.
I can understand, that from other peoples point of view it will be easy to say that just become a monk and go the safe way, but if I knew for sure, that psychedelics could "help me" in pretty much the same way, I guess I would take the easy, but a bit risky way.
I've done shrooms (cubensis) twice, but both were about 2g doses, so not really something, that would force you into ego-death, if you are trying to cling to the "usual" reality and afraid to let go, as I was (since I had had a few super frightening trips on smoking too large dose of Spice mix (consisting JWH-018), just recently before trying them shrooms for the first time).
Thanks in advance,
me