Venting Incels

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[assclass]

By definition, they have awful personalities. If they’ve gone the “red pill/blue pill” route, they’re subscribing to a mode of thought that is misogynistic and self-defeating

The definition of incels is not people with awful personalities. Because then alot of rich and famous people who have sex would be incels because they have awful personalities. Which is entirely subjective by the way.
So essentially you are saying, these people I don't like are defined as being awful. Which is the same as saying people I don't like are nazi scum. Which is the same as the Hitler and the National Socialist Party saying, "Jews are vermin" or "Jews are people with awful personalities who own the banks and are oppressing you."

 

[assclass]

I thought this video was quite interesting actually. The speaker empathizes with the way these people get sucked into a cycle of negativity, egged on by others and their own desire for negative reinforcement. Calling the overarching ecosystem of videos “trash” doesn’t change this video’s pertinence.

wow they described what they see from their point of view. good job.

from the wikipedia page I linked

"BreadTube or LeftTube is a loose and informal group of online content creators who create video content, including video essays and livestreams, from socialist, social democratic, communist, anarchist, and other left-wing perspectives"

I guess if you are an NPC level moronic marxist you would like that content, but if you are a capable of reason and independent thought, you will find that that is not content of any worth.

 

[Foreigner]

I've met self-described incels. Some fit the stereotype, others were fairly attractive men who had been severely scorned, mostly by infidelity. My impression is that some of these people are having a trauma response to relationship betrayal. Then they go online and start writing an entire treatise about how women suck and if you're lucky enough to get one, you have to follow a prescribed list of self-improvement things to keep the woman. It's all a red herring, and as usual, people need THERAPY, not the internet.

The thing is, it's not just women being unfaithful these days, it's everybody. Postmodernism has rendered relationships meaningless and people are more hedonistic than ever. Finding somebody who isn't hypnotized and prioritizing mindless entertainment, politics and materialism can be challenging. I'm a gay man and I'm not celibate, but I wait a long time between partners because most men these days are utter trash. Seriously, there are too many basic ass bitches out there now, men and women alike. These hetero incels think it's just women and that's their biggest mistake. It's society as a whole right now.

Also? The whole meme about women rejecting "nice guys" is hilarious. Women reject you because you're unattractive, which may be physical or it may be your personality. A lot of these incels revert to "Forget women! I'm going to focus on myself and just make myself the best person I can possibly be!" Guess what? THAT'S WHAT DATING IS ABOUT. If you're not self-improving a little bit then how do you expect women to like you?

The media has created a sex crazed population. These men feel entitled to sex because the popular portrayal is guys getting laid regularly... but that's not reality. Only 10% of men are actually doing that. Most men go a long time without sex. Some men go a very long time. That's life.

 

[arrall]

I guess if you are an NPC level moronic marxist you would like that content, but if you are a capable of reason and independent thought, you will find that that is not content of any worth.

TIL that you cannot enjoy art or online content made by people with differing political views from your own.

I really like that one Dali painting with the naked chick and the tiger. Guess I’m a fascist now…

Postmodernism has rendered relationships meaningless and people are more hedonistic than ever. Finding somebody who isn't hypnotized and prioritizing mindless entertainment, politics and materialism can be challenging. I'm a gay man and I'm not celibate, but I wait a long time between partners because most men these days are utter trash. Seriously, there are too many basic ass bitches out there now, men and women alike. These hetero incels think it's just women and that's their biggest mistake. It's society as a whole right now

Your response was going so well until you dove headfirst into a classic misunderstanding of “postmodernism.” Please define postmodernism for me in your own words. No cheating and using Google.

 

[RUC4]

Incels are a natural thing. Men historically in many cases haven't been reproductively successful. We know from genetic analysis that we have more female than male ancestors. Women have an innate reproductive value while men are highly asymmetric in value depending on performance. Many women have been deeply unsatisfied with their hubbies throughout monogamy. They actually rather share a good man than have a boring one for themselves.

We're just not used to it, hence the hysteria on all fronts.

Not ALL women gave reproductive value. Throughout history women who can’t produce children have been divorced, killed, jailed.

And why do you say women would rather share a “good man” than have a boring one to themselves? Wouldn’t a woman want to keep and hold on tight to a good man? ( in this heterosexual scenario)

We’re not used to what? Settling for boring men? Is this your personal opinion?

 

[Mjäll]

Not ALL women gave reproductive value. Throughout history women who can’t produce children have been divorced, killed, jailed.

And why do you say women would rather share a “good man” than have a boring one to themselves? Wouldn’t a woman want to keep and hold on tight to a good man? ( in this heterosexual scenario)

We’re not used to what? Settling for boring men? Is this your personal opinion?

Of course not all women have reproductive value. Incidents and accidents do happen. I was discussing sex differences on a general level. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough. If you think i'm leaning onto some "women have it so easy" trope, there's no need to worry. I appreciate the toil we stand on, from our ancestors of both sexes.

No, it's not my personal opinion. Why are you asking me that? Do you want me to corroborate?

Talking about the thing we're "not used to" i was referring to a more natural non-monogamous state. Culturally we expect monogamy out of habit, and when the expectation isn't met, that has social consequences. Was it unclear what i was referring to in that passage? I didn't intend for that to be unclear whatsoever. I thought it was obvious from the context and the fact that my posts pertained rather specifically and precisely to one relevant aspect of this topic.

Yes, a woman could want to "hold on" to a "good man". Do you mean women would prefer having one high-tier man each to sharing them? If so, that's a given, and not the choice what i was talking about. I was talking about the more realistic choice between a mediocre monogamy and another social order more to the end of sharing the top males. This is a real dilemma women have had through evolution. Of course they could hypothetically prefer to have one "good man" each, but that isn't realistically possible in this scenario. What do you wish to discuss really?

(There's of course the whole issue of how volitional these reproductive "choices" by women have actually been historically)

 

[RUC4]

Of course not all women have reproductive value. Incidents and accidents do happen. I was discussing sex differences on a general level. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough. If you think i'm leaning onto some "women have it so easy" trope, there's no need to worry. I appreciate the toil we stand on, from our ancestors of both sexes.

No, it's not my personal opinion. Why are you asking me that? Do you want me to corroborate?

Talking about the thing we're "not used to" i was referring to a more natural non-monogamous state. Culturally we expect monogamy out of habit, and when the expectation isn't met, that has social consequences. Was it unclear what i was referring to in that passage? I didn't intend for that to be unclear whatsoever. I thought it was obvious from the context and the fact that my posts pertained rather specifically and precisely to one relevant aspect of this topic.

Yes, a woman could want to "hold on" to a "good man". Do you mean women would prefer having one high-tier man each to sharing them? If so, that's a given, and not the choice what i was talking about. I was talking about the more realistic choice between a mediocre monogamy and another social order more to the end of sharing the top males. This is a real dilemma women have had through evolution. Of course they could hypothetically prefer to have one "good man" each, but that isn't realistically possible in this scenario. What do you wish to discuss really?

(There's of course the whole issue of how volitional these reproductive "choices" by women have actually been historically)

I don’t particularly want to discuss anything you’re writing about. I just wanted clarification on what is your opinion and what you’re reiterating, or presenting as common knowledge.

 

[Mjäll]

I don’t particularly want to discuss anything you’re writing about. I just wanted clarification on what is your opinion and what you’re reiterating, or presenting as common knowledge.

So are you asking me for sources or not? It's really simple. I am happy to oblige that request if you're up front enough to actually make the request instead of just asking me whether my statements on human evolution are "opinion" or not.

 

[RUC4]

So are you asking me for sources or not? It's really simple. I am happy to oblige that request if you're up front enough to actually make the request instead of just asking me whether my statements on human evolution are "opinion" or not.

No. Not asking for sources. Just wanted to know what was opinion.

 

[Mjäll]

No. Not asking for sources. Just wanted to know what was opinion.

Weird ass question.

Why would i or anyone discuss evolutionary history on an "opinion" basis?

You're asking that question because you seek to invalidate my perspective but have nothing to say about any actual argument.

What's your line of thinking when you start discussing things, then immediately say you're "not particularly interested" in them when i reply? Fucking weird ass shit dude. No one falls for that shit anymore.

 

[RUC4]

You're asking that question because you seek to invalidate my opinion but have nothing to say about any actual argument.

lol. Thanks for telling ME what I'M doing. lol

There is nothing to "fall for". I'm not sure why you're being so defensive and even insulting me. I was wondering where your information came from. You were making some very generalized assumptions.

 

[Mjäll]

lol. Thanks for telling ME what I'M doing. lol

There is nothing to "fall for". I'm not sure why you're being so defensive and even insulting me. I was wondering where your information came from. You were making some very generalized assumptions.

You were not "wondering where it came from". I asked you if you wanted sources, you declined.

You wondered if it was opinion. Weird ass loaded question.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

You were not "wondering where it came from". I asked you if you wanted sources, you declined.

You wondered if it was opinion. Weird ass loaded question.

I think you made your point. Lets quit with the veiled aggression and just move on.

I get why you made the comment that you made up there a few posts ago but it's over now. You and RUC4 both had a point and you both made it clear.

Thanks.

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

Imagine blaming woman for not getting sex and then doing nothing about what makes you not suitable for even one off sexxx

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

What I find so Tragic is we have so many people who are hooked on trying to get sex, I suggest you aim alot higher in life with your goals.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

This whole "Incel" thing is a Diease of the mind & infected people due to "Culture"
When we have shows like Love Island where a bunch of clowns walks around talking about "hooking up" etc this stuff drips into the "collective mind" of people & due to the fucking TRASH we have shown daily in the Western world it becomes "Reality" to people one of the biggest Goals in life is to get laid.

Go try pushing this mental illness in India to the Naga Baba & see where it gets you



EDIT - Pfft, the idiots on Youtube think "Penis Yoga" is too much, you'll have to log in to see the secret I've posted it seems.

 

[assclass]

TIL that you cannot enjoy art or online content made by people with differing political views from your own.

I really like that one Dali painting with the naked chick and the tiger. Guess I’m a fascist now…


Your response was going so well until you dove headfirst into a classic misunderstanding of “postmodernism.” Please define postmodernism for me in your own words. No cheating and using Google.

You can watch whatever you want as art or for entertainment (i admit, CNN is a good clown show when there is an active war).
But as a source of news or education, yeah, some sources are trash and others are more reliable. Everyone knows you can only get the truth from infowars.

 

[Foreigner]

Your response was going so well until you dove headfirst into a classic misunderstanding of “postmodernism.” Please define postmodernism for me in your own words. No cheating and using Google.

No thanks, professor. If you have a critique to write then you can write it. I'm not going to wade through a quagmire on your behalf.

 

[The Shadow Self]

It seems like if you wait long enough, things turn into a ....