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LillyStix

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Right - so - I feel I have reasons but I won't start making excuses. I'm an addict and when I can't get I get very, very sick and have to miss work. Even though I am an addict, I'm honest. I would never steal, take advantage or hurt anyone. I work all the time just to support my habit and because I work all the time I never have time to kick. But basically what I wanted to ask you guys about is whether you have people that take advantage of you if so, how do you deal with it? I get where I can and I know that I pay more than most people.

That's not really the problem though, one person always tells me how grateful I ought to be that they are doing this for me even though I know it's not just for me and I pay out the nose, so it's not out of kindness and he's always leering and trying to grope me and asking me out and I'm so sick of it. I try to dress pretty much like a nun, wear things that make me look bad and it doesn't seem to make a difference. It's been getting worse and worse and I'm scared that soon I won't be able to fend it off and I'll have to insult the person and I won't have that source anymore.

The other person always takes advantage by stealing my money - taking my money but not giving me what I paid for and sometimes not even giving me anything at all. The thing is when you're sick you have no leverage, no options, you have to take the shit in hopes that the person will ultimately give you something.

Maybe I just don't know how to stand up for myself. I guess I just wondered - does this happen to other people with an opiate addiction or is it just me, is there something I could do differently?

Thanks to anyone who can help or who also wants to vent. I appreciate it.
 
LillyStix said:
Right - so - I feel I have reasons but I won't start making excuses. I'm an addict and when I can't get I get very, very sick and have to miss work. Even though I am an addict, I'm honest. I would never steal, take advantage or hurt anyone. I work all the time just to support my habit and because I work all the time I never have time to kick. But basically what I wanted to ask you guys about is whether you have people that take advantage of you if so, how do you deal with it? I get where I can and I know that I pay more than most people.

That's not really the problem though, one person always tells me how grateful I ought to be that they are doing this for me even though I know it's not just for me and I pay out the nose, so it's not out of kindness and he's always leering and trying to grope me and asking me out and I'm so sick of it. I try to dress pretty much like a nun, wear things that make me look bad and it doesn't seem to make a difference. It's been getting worse and worse and I'm scared that soon I won't be able to fend it off and I'll have to insult the person and I won't have that source anymore.

The other person always takes advantage by stealing my money - taking my money but not giving me what I paid for and sometimes not even giving me anything at all. The thing is when you're sick you have no leverage, no options, you have to take the shit in hopes that the person will ultimately give you something.

Maybe I just don't know how to stand up for myself. I guess I just wondered - does this happen to other people with an opiate addiction or is it just me, is there something I could do differently?

Thanks to anyone who can help or who also wants to vent. I appreciate it.
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Goes with the territory. The thing that pisses me off the most are, like you said, the ones who charge you an arm and a leg, and then act like they're doing you a favor. I had a so-called friend that got 30mg oxy for >edited price< each. Amazingly, they went up overnight to snip each when I started buying ( I refuse to pay more than $20). The guy says he's not making any money but funny thing, when I say no, I don't want any or can't afford it, it suddenly starts dropping in price. People are fucked. There is no other word for it. It's one of the reasons I am determined to not exceed the limits of my prescription anymore. I am sick and tired of making assholes rich, excuse the expression.
 
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Sweet Jane said:
Goes with the territory. The thing that pisses me off the most are, like you said, the ones who charge you an arm and a leg, and then act like they're doing you a favor. I had a so-called friend that got 30mg oxy for $12 each. Amazingly, they went up overnight to $20 each when I started buying ( I refuse to pay more than $20). The guy says he's not making any money but funny thing, when I say no, I don't want any or can't afford it, it suddenly starts dropping in price. People are fucked. There is no other word for it. It's one of the reasons I am determined to not exceed the limits of my prescription anymore. I am sick and tired of making assholes rich, excuse the expression.
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OMG - yes, i know EXACTLY what you're talking about! HA! And you're also not supposed to act like you know what people are paying out there for these same things. I get charged (a lot) for a generic 80 when I know that it's really >less<... If I even so much as SUGGEST that I know this they will let me get sick and pretend they have nothing for me for a couple days just so I can suffer. Funny thing is that they always call back though and in the past years I once managed to almost quit a few times and after a few days of not calling them they starting calling me every day and having "specials" just like you said... All of a sudden something had fallen into their lap and they had gotten a sweetheart deal - so they could afford to make me one too! Funny how it has NEVER happened unless I was successfully kicking.

But that's not even what I hate most - that's money - but being made to feel sick when I have something important and being constantly terrified that today something will go wrong and I'll be deathly ill. And the loss of dignity as well, standing there with a pleasant look on my face trying to politely fend off some gross man that smells like onions and a little bit vaguely like shit when if it wasn't for the fact that he determines whether I'm going to be spend the next few days lying in bed kicking my legs feeling unbelievable pain in every single one of my cells I would love to kick him in the stones. Sorry for the rage. lol.
 
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I had to remove prices, as it's not permitted on Bluelight. Moving to Drug Culture.
 
If you seriously honestly 100% only have those sources then I guess you're SOL. But for me personally I am a mean sonofabitch when I get stiffed or messed with so that's how I deal with people taking advantage. For real, I am a hardass and it makes everything so much simpler.
 
Stop supporting scrubs with your money and start supporting people who run their shit in a "professional" way.

That requires getting new connections, though.
 
NickelSlick said:
If you seriously honestly 100% only have those sources then I guess you're SOL. But for me personally I am a mean sonofabitch when I get stiffed or messed with so that's how I deal with people taking advantage. For real, I am a hardass and it makes everything so much simpler.
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Yeah those are all I got... But maybe I should take a page out of your book and be a bit harder... I wonder if it makes a difference for Sweet Jane and I that we are women, like I wonder if people wouldn't try to push men around as much as they would with women?
 
when people fuck with my money i start plotting my revenge until the opportunity strikes.

and when i have connects that are fiends that's the best, i just pretend like i only have x amount of money and, knowing their looking for a fix, talk them down lower and lower. a sick dealer is a weak dealer.
 
treezy z said:
when people fuck with my money i start plotting my revenge until the opportunity strikes.

and when i have connects that are fiends that's the best, i just pretend like i only have x amount of money and, knowing their looking for a fix, talk them down lower and lower. a sick dealer is a weak dealer.
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That's true but I think it maybe only works when you can shop dealers a bit.... Because I've tried exercising my power when I had it and it resulted in my getting shafted when I was sick so now i'm scared to try that again... i feel like it's a constant power struggle with my sources where one is looking to rob me blind each time I deal with him and the other is always ALWAYS pushing pushing pushing it, grabbing my chest, my bum and even grabbing my crotch or rubbing his boner on me and it's so fucking gross. I push him away and tell him to leave me alone and that I"m a paying client, I'll be happy to pay more if he doesn't feel he's getting a good enough deal without throwing molestation into the mix but he always just says he doesn't want my money he's really only selling to me at cost (BULLSHIT LOL) and doing it because we're "friends" though he doesn't understand why I can't throw a little "treat his way once in a while" is how he puts it FUCKING BARF....

I pay double all the time just to avoid that. I've been raped before and everytime he starts pushing me around I feel like I'm back in that grimy bathroom. I HATE this addiction. What could make a person put themselves through that all the time other than this shit right? That particular connection is not an addict though, just takes advantage of them. I have way more compassion for someone who is just trying to get their fix because I know they maybe are not terrible people but maybe their addiction is just so strong... I dunno. Sorry for ranting but the "sexual" situation has gotten really bad lately and it's causing me a lot of grief. Everytime I come back from seeing that person I have to take a one hour shower and scrub every inch of my skin and I cry, cry, cry.

I took me years just to find even one additional contact. It's so hard to find people for this - if you're looking for some herb or looking to hit the slopes than that's easy peasy - a thousand options and very easy to find someone but this is, I think, a very small market.

I definitely harbor lots of revenge fantasies tho... I've never actually exacted any revenge on anyone but I think about it a lot. Like I said though - if I have to choose between paying out ridiculous amounts or even dealing with someone who steals my money once in a whole and someone who sexually harasses me I would pick the thief every god damn time. Jesus Christ, I can't even eat onions anymore because the fucking sexual molestor dude always REEKS of them, as if he was on a diet that exclusively consisted of raw onions and now when I smell onion it makes me gag.

And he's always like "Why are you so tense? Why are you so cold? God made you this way so you could run hot why do you act like a prissy bitch and hide your body in 10 layers of clothing, why don't you ever wear your hair down?" He's GROSS, sexist, racist, it's like it never fucking occured to him that women might have some agency in the selection of sexual partners as opposed to existing for the pleasure and benefit of any man who happens to want a piece or like it never occured to him that maybe women don't want to be groped like a blow up dolll by a man practically old enough to be their grand-father who is a fucking dirty ugly ignorant, unpleasant and worst of all SMELLY piece of shit.

Sorry. Rant over... Sigh. I'm sure I sound like a total headcase/nutjob... I'm just really frustrated, I can't afford to loose my work and I can't get any time off - I have to keep myself from WD and it's not always possible but I offer more money - way more than enough money - and nothing can shake loose that fucking maggot. I'm so sickened by it and so ashamed of myself for putting myself in that situation and even allowing any of this to happen to me in the first place.

I feel like a piece of shit. :( I feel so bad about myself :( - Thanks for listening if anyone is reading this. I can't tell anyone I know IRL about this because no one, not even my best friends know I am an addict - not that I even see my friends anymore because I spend every single dollar I have on this. I think maybe my family suspects, they know I should be doing well for myself and yet I'm always broke. I know there are people with much worse problems than mine I'm not trying to say "oh everyone feel sorry for me", I just have no one to talk to about this and I've never told this to anyone before.
 
Sweet Jane said:
Goes with the territory. The thing that pisses me off the most are, like you said, the ones who charge you an arm and a leg, and then act like they're doing you a favor. I had a so-called friend that got 30mg oxy for >edited price< each. Amazingly, they went up overnight to snip each when I started buying ( I refuse to pay more than $20). The guy says he's not making any money but funny thing, when I say no, I don't want any or can't afford it, it suddenly starts dropping in price. People are fucked. There is no other word for it. It's one of the reasons I am determined to not exceed the limits of my prescription anymore. I am sick and tired of making assholes rich, excuse the expression.
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I am so sorry about putting the prices on my original post. I just blanked on the prohibition and was on my way out of town for the night when it hit me that, uh oh, I wasn't supposed to do that. I'd have changed it if I could. Many apologies; it won't happen again.
 
I've never had to put up with the kind of situation you describe, LillyStix. I've had the guys I deal with get aggressive, but nothing like like what you describe. I believe it though. There's a guy with a rep for doing exactly what you describe; this guy apparently always had hard core porn on when girls came by to score and cameras set up in the bathroom and stuff. I won't go down that road. In fact, I'm determined to stick to my weekly supply of 60/30mg. There's no reason that shouldn't hold me. I'm not playing these games anymore. No one has ever done anything like that to me, or touched me without my permission. they probably know I'd freak out. They try to hit on my and it gets old quickly, but no one, no one should have suffer the kind of bullshit that you are. I don't know what to tell you.

Do you have a legitimate prescription? Can you get by on that? If you don't, I don't know. I said at one point that I just wanted to go with heroin cause it was cheaper and easier to get but my dealer freaked out. To this day, I don't know if he was genuinely concerned about me, or about losing my custom. Bottom line. There's better stuff than oxy, cheaper if you're using it only for a high. The problem, I've found, is that as soon as you start liking and wanting it, they'll raise the price on you. People can be such assholes.
 
LillyStix said:
I wish! Those people exist?!?
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Yeah they do. Somewhat, anyway. With illegal drugs there's always a chance that you might not get such a good deal on something (underweight or of an inferior quality...although I guess this isn't really a problem with pills. My experience is mostly with "street drugs") but there are definitely people who treat their customers with at least a bare minimum of respect. I'm a guy though so I've never had to put up with the bullshit that you describe, it sounds awful. Unfortunately there are people who feel it's fine to sexually harass or degrade their customers and it's a shame that women have to deal with that.

It helps if you know other users, honestly. Other drug users can make your life really annoying and shitty but they can also get you connected with the local scene really well, especially ones who've been using in the area you live in for a long time. I knew one such individual and, if a dealer didn't get back to us within five minutes, it was on to the next dealer (and he knew a lot of people who were fuckin' up). Do you know any fellow drug users who could help you out?
 
LillyStix said:
That's true but I think it maybe only works when you can shop dealers a bit.... Because I've tried exercising my power when I had it and it resulted in my getting shafted when I was sick so now i'm scared to try that again... i feel like it's a constant power struggle with my sources where one is looking to rob me blind each time I deal with him and the other is always ALWAYS pushing pushing pushing it, grabbing my chest, my bum and even grabbing my crotch or rubbing his boner on me and it's so fucking gross. I push him away and tell him to leave me alone and that I"m a paying client, I'll be happy to pay more if he doesn't feel he's getting a good enough deal without throwing molestation into the mix but he always just says he doesn't want my money he's really only selling to me at cost (BULLSHIT LOL) and doing it because we're "friends" though he doesn't understand why I can't throw a little "treat his way once in a while" is how he puts it FUCKING BARF....

I pay double all the time just to avoid that. I've been raped before and everytime he starts pushing me around I feel like I'm back in that grimy bathroom. I HATE this addiction. What could make a person put themselves through that all the time other than this shit right? That particular connection is not an addict though, just takes advantage of them. I have way more compassion for someone who is just trying to get their fix because I know they maybe are not terrible people but maybe their addiction is just so strong... I dunno. Sorry for ranting but the "sexual" situation has gotten really bad lately and it's causing me a lot of grief. Everytime I come back from seeing that person I have to take a one hour shower and scrub every inch of my skin and I cry, cry, cry.

I took me years just to find even one additional contact. It's so hard to find people for this - if you're looking for some herb or looking to hit the slopes than that's easy peasy - a thousand options and very easy to find someone but this is, I think, a very small market.

I definitely harbor lots of revenge fantasies tho... I've never actually exacted any revenge on anyone but I think about it a lot. Like I said though - if I have to choose between paying out ridiculous amounts or even dealing with someone who steals my money once in a whole and someone who sexually harasses me I would pick the thief every god damn time. Jesus Christ, I can't even eat onions anymore because the fucking sexual molestor dude always REEKS of them, as if he was on a diet that exclusively consisted of raw onions and now when I smell onion it makes me gag.

And he's always like "Why are you so tense? Why are you so cold? God made you this way so you could run hot why do you act like a prissy bitch and hide your body in 10 layers of clothing, why don't you ever wear your hair down?" He's GROSS, sexist, racist, it's like it never fucking occured to him that women might have some agency in the selection of sexual partners as opposed to existing for the pleasure and benefit of any man who happens to want a piece or like it never occured to him that maybe women don't want to be groped like a blow up dolll by a man practically old enough to be their grand-father who is a fucking dirty ugly ignorant, unpleasant and worst of all SMELLY piece of shit.

Sorry. Rant over... Sigh. I'm sure I sound like a total headcase/nutjob... I'm just really frustrated, I can't afford to loose my work and I can't get any time off - I have to keep myself from WD and it's not always possible but I offer more money - way more than enough money - and nothing can shake loose that fucking maggot. I'm so sickened by it and so ashamed of myself for putting myself in that situation and even allowing any of this to happen to me in the first place.

I feel like a piece of shit. :( I feel so bad about myself :( - Thanks for listening if anyone is reading this. I can't tell anyone I know IRL about this because no one, not even my best friends know I am an addict - not that I even see my friends anymore because I spend every single dollar I have on this. I think maybe my family suspects, they know I should be doing well for myself and yet I'm always broke. I know there are people with much worse problems than mine I'm not trying to say "oh everyone feel sorry for me", I just have no one to talk to about this and I've never told this to anyone before.
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OT: It's all about connections and you guys sound like you have really shit ones. I had a fight with my dope dealer today, and got him to see that even he was being ridiculous when I said I'm not psychic I can't read your mind (when he expected me to realise that him driving slowly, really slowly mean't follow him convoy like in my car).

My only advice is let NO one and I mean NOONE in the dope game know how desperate you really are ever fake it till you make it.

Once you have people thinking they indispensable to you it's all over.

bASICALLY A KEY TO A LOT OF YOU GUY'S WOHS IS THAt YOU ARE DEALING WITH MIDDLEMEN OR OTHER ADDICTS AND NOT FULL TIME PROFESSIONAL DEALERS (WHO DON'T DO DRUGS THEMSELVES). I hate to break it to you but those dealing with middlemen need to make new connections stat, middlemen don't care about retaining loyal customers, middlemen just like quick scores here and there to feed there own habits.

My answer to help you females in distress is ditch these parasitic middlemen and find ppl higher up the food chain - actual dealers. If you dojn't know how to do that there are sites that can steer you in the right diretion in how to find a dealer, but bl doesn't do sources. Middlemen will always bring you nothing but wohs and exploitation in the dope game so stay clear.

Dealers are normal people - not drug addicts, they just sell drug and approach that as a job like any other and genuinely value your patronage, middlemen as mentioned before just want big and quick scores and to suck you dry then move on to the next sap.

Hope this was of some assisance.

PEACESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh
 
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I stop returning there calls, but thats hard to do when they are your connect. And know what ya mean about people price gouging Roxi's, luckily don't really gotta worry about it since I'm on maintiance now, but I have two hookups that sell there 15'a pretty damn cheap, non of that dollar a whatever shit which is what sent me on maintiance to begin with...like the people who want my Subs alll the time, just gotta call today(and they STILL owe me 5 Bars of Xanax, YET wouldn't pay me back when they had there footballs in hand last week, and I mean I'm just talking hey gimmie 4 footballs and we are good, got some from them but anyway I hate that shit, ya gtta handfull and your being cheap over 4mg of xanax, and another person who's suppose to gimmie 10 ativan...ugh, guese I just gotta ride up there, none of these bitches have phones, and it's like a 35 minute drive...anyway ya. I'm ok but here I am with no shit and I'm goin through all the shit people owe me I SHOULD have some benzo's right now, like 10mg of xanax and 10mg of ativan right now. Like I said, I'm okay but I HATE THAT SHIT, espcially that one person who has it right on them but want give them to ya. Anyway, Rant over.
 
One of my dealers has started only giving me roxis if I have sex with him and occasionally still lets me pay. It kind of pisses me off because I have the money and can just pay but I don't really mind because he is attractive and I like him but I still hate being taken advantage of when I'm sick and needing shit. Nothing else really happens to me because I have a main dealer who I always go to and like but I hate when I have to pay a shitload for one pill when it should be way less and they know I'll pay it because I need them. I agree with not letting people know or even have the slightest clue of how sick/desperate you are because most people can and will take advantage of you
It really pisses me off when people fuck with my money on days where I can't get anymore money or something like that and I'm sick or just fiending bad, that's when I start plotting revenge. That's why I like my main dealer bc he's consistent and I trust him (but never fully trust anyone)
 
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OP: First off, invest in some kratom, it will mitigate the withdrawal somewhat so you don't need to rely on these scumbags.

When it comes to Johnny Molester, I would suggest bringing a friend that is a guy, and not afraid to mash a few skulls. I did this for a few friends that were girls that had this problem with a local dealer. He got the message fast. The one girl had him meet her at a gas station at night and I came out of the bathroom when he was sitting in the passenger seat, opened the door and just socked him in the jaw with a roll of quarters in my hand. I proceeded to tell him that I knew his name and who he was and if he ever so much looked at her wrong I was going to knock him out. If you have a friend that is tough then bring him sometime. Generally guys that target women in this manner are pussys.

Secondly, ask your connects that deal snow and herb if they know anyone with pills or H. Sometimes you get lucky.

I have to parrot the idea that you never let someone know how sick you are. Do you play poker and keep flashing your cards at the other players?
 
I have a lot of pill connects but they're all around the same price (really high) and the other connects with other shit just like idk they aren't cool with H at all or nobody I know really is so I had to find the H connects myself. And about the other dealer, I just started going to my main one again so I don't have to deal with that. Luckily that dealer buys from my main one and my main one doesn't like him either and threatened to beat his ass, so ;)
 
dang, sounds rough in the states. my only oxy dealers are doctors, receptionists and pharmacists and girl you could have a an oc 40 any time...
 
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