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How do you guys deal with people taking advantage?

Sweet Jane said:
I've never had to put up with the kind of situation you describe, LillyStix. I've had the guys I deal with get aggressive, but nothing like like what you describe. I believe it though. There's a guy with a rep for doing exactly what you describe; this guy apparently always had hard core porn on when girls came by to score and cameras set up in the bathroom and stuff. I won't go down that road. In fact, I'm determined to stick to my weekly supply of 60/30mg. There's no reason that shouldn't hold me. I'm not playing these games anymore. No one has ever done anything like that to me, or touched me without my permission. they probably know I'd freak out. They try to hit on my and it gets old quickly, but no one, no one should have suffer the kind of bullshit that you are. I don't know what to tell you.

Do you have a legitimate prescription? Can you get by on that? If you don't, I don't know. I said at one point that I just wanted to go with heroin cause it was cheaper and easier to get but my dealer freaked out. To this day, I don't know if he was genuinely concerned about me, or about losing my custom. Bottom line. There's better stuff than oxy, cheaper if you're using it only for a high. The problem, I've found, is that as soon as you start liking and wanting it, they'll raise the price on you. People can be such assholes.
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You're totally right - as soon as you start like it and wanting it people def. raise the prices on you! This is a bit embarrassing but I have no more prescriptions my doctor retired a bit before they brought out NEO and concurrently, new restrictive legislation on oxy (delisted in many cases and as I understand it, it became a lot more complicated, and subject to review/oversight for doctors to prescribe almost overnight). Where I live in Canada, they brought out the new formulation in 2010 and when they did they also did a major push to kick people off even those who had legitimate prescriptions. It was a bad time because a were loosing their scripts and at the same time no generic varieties were available - only the tamper proof formulation and if you were used to instant release it was very shitty to adapt to it. There was no room in any rehab programs because they didn't create extra programs to accommodate the increasing demand...

It was shitty time for my doctor to retire and I didn't get in to see him in time because he left because just before I was in another province doing caregiving for my mom... At least I had cut back a bit while I was doing that between not having any connections in that city and giving my mom some of my pills when she needed them I thought maybe I would be ok.. I had brought extra that I had bought before leaving to begin with (I was not travelling by plane or anything so it was ok). I found a new doctor but she was appalled that I was so young and on oxy and she categorically refused to continue renewing my script... I felt pretty embarassed of going to any more doctors begging for pills... It's weird, I was surprised that she wouldn't even taper me down or anything - I don't think she realized what it was like she said people that took oxy or another opiate after surgery were fine when their meds ran out so why wouldn't I be? I was like WTF - it's not like I've been taking these for two weeks when your body is primed for years it's totally different. The only thing she did do for me is make some phone calls and get me into an outpatient program because I was back at work and had tried getting a spot and there were waiting lists everywhere..

I was on the suboxone program for a few months but I didn't really stop using I just cut down a lot (and the sub did help with that) but they kept getting mad at me everytime I flagged positive (which was every almost every time) and it was kind of awkward. I know it's weird to be taking the oxy AND the sub because you're probably blocking it but I still felt better when I took it. Long story short - I haven't had a script in years and lately I've been thinking I should maybe go back to the outpatient treatment. It's just hard because I remember the first week I felt was a bit of write off - I didn't get leg pains or nerve pain and the sweats were very mild because of the sub but I was soooooooo tired. I work two jobs now and I can't seem to get any time off... Excuses, excuses, i know... I don't think I could get a script now because my spinal issues are much better than they were and if I'm being honest I probably don't need it... I feel like I've just been taking it not to get sick for a while now...

I saw your thread and I think you must be much more stoic than me! I don't know how you did what you did but it's an inspiration to me and I was reading it smiling and thinking "good for her! You go girl!" - I hope it's going well and that you're feeling good today! : )
 
Whosajiggawaaa said:


OT: It's all about connections and you guys sound like you have really shit ones. I had a fight with my dope dealer today, and got him to see that even he was being ridiculous when I said I'm not psychic I can't read your mind (when he expected me to realise that him driving slowly, really slowly mean't follow him convoy like in my car).

My only advice is let NO one and I mean NOONE in the dope game know how desperate you really are ever fake it till you make it.

Once you have people thinking they indispensable to you it's all over.

bASICALLY A KEY TO A LOT OF YOU GUY'S WOHS IS THAt YOU ARE DEALING WITH MIDDLEMEN OR OTHER ADDICTS AND NOT FULL TIME PROFESSIONAL DEALERS (WHO DON'T DO DRUGS THEMSELVES). I hate to break it to you but those dealing with middlemen need to make new connections stat, middlemen don't care about retaining loyal customers, middlemen just like quick scores here and there to feed there own habits.

My answer to help you females in distress is ditch these parasitic middlemen and find ppl higher up the food chain - actual dealers. If you dojn't know how to do that there are sites that can steer you in the right diretion in how to find a dealer, but bl doesn't do sources. Middlemen will always bring you nothing but wohs and exploitation in the dope game so stay clear.

Dealers are normal people - not drug addicts, they just sell drug and approach that as a job like any other and genuinely value your patronage, middlemen as mentioned before just want big and quick scores and to suck you dry then move on to the next sap.

Hope this was of some assisance.

PEACESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh
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Thanks for the advice and for the song! Hahahaha I LOVED the song lol, it was a good balm for my molestation rage. I think that's def. where I have gone wrong I have let the people know how much I needed - things like making sure there was stock if I had to go away for a few days and i would ask a few times and make sure that they had and I would let them know that I needed to have that in line because if it wasn't there I would need to cancel the trip and it would be a disaster.

One of the things I try not to do is call people a lot because I know that they had it when fiends are blowing up their phone but if one of my two people is out I'm always like "Ok - I'm not going to bother you by calling every day but PLEASE PLEASE call me as soon as you have something to sell me because I'm going to be home sweating and sick as fuck in the meantime." So maybe I should not be saying those things... Hmmmm.... Well the point is taken I'm going to try to act like I don't really care from now on!
 
roxidreams said:
One of my dealers has started only giving me roxis if I have sex with him and occasionally still lets me pay. It kind of pisses me off because I have the money and can just pay but I don't really mind because he is attractive and I like him but I still hate being taken advantage of when I'm sick and needing shit. Nothing else really happens to me because I have a main dealer who I always go to and like but I hate when I have to pay a shitload for one pill when it should be way less and they know I'll pay it because I need them. I agree with not letting people know or even have the slightest clue of how sick/desperate you are because most people can and will take advantage of you
It really pisses me off when people fuck with my money on days where I can't get anymore money or something like that and I'm sick or just fiending bad, that's when I start plotting revenge. That's why I like my main dealer bc he's consistent and I trust him (but never fully trust anyone)
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Thank you for sharing. : ( I'm so sorry you have to deal with such a prick but it does make feel a bit better. I sometimes worry like - is there something wrong with me? Do I have the word "doormat" stamped on my face and everyone else can see it but me? And it's like - ok - well I know you have other customers and I'm willing to bet that you don't ass fuck every guy that comes in to buy shit so why the fuck is my money not good like theirs? I offer to pay more - say I will happily pay extra per pill whatever and the fucker is like "oh I don't need your money, I don't do this for money I do it because you're my friend and I want to help you. I just don't get why you don't want to help ME..." WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP! Like - I still pay and everything it's not like get anything for free or even cheaply... UGH FUCKING GROSS.
 
manboychef said:
OP: First off, invest in some kratom, it will mitigate the withdrawal somewhat so you don't need to rely on these scumbags.

When it comes to Johnny Molester, I would suggest bringing a friend that is a guy, and not afraid to mash a few skulls. I did this for a few friends that were girls that had this problem with a local dealer. He got the message fast. The one girl had him meet her at a gas station at night and I came out of the bathroom when he was sitting in the passenger seat, opened the door and just socked him in the jaw with a roll of quarters in my hand. I proceeded to tell him that I knew his name and who he was and if he ever so much looked at her wrong I was going to knock him out. If you have a friend that is tough then bring him sometime. Generally guys that target women in this manner are pussys.

Secondly, ask your connects that deal snow and herb if they know anyone with pills or H. Sometimes you get lucky.

I have to parrot the idea that you never let someone know how sick you are. Do you play poker and keep flashing your cards at the other players?
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Ok first of all you sound super bad assed! that's awesome! I have one friend who could probably do that for me... I would have to come clean and say I'm an addict (I don't tell people - like maybe only 4 people know and most of my friends don't). They know I sometimes use other drugs recreationally but not that I'm a daily opiate user. Ooooooh Kratom, I have heard that it helped with the withdrawal but I hadn't heard it confirmed from anyone who had actually tried it!

I will definitely try that!!! I'll try asking around more often - I've actually just started doing that the odd time I come across anyone selling anything else but they mostly just look at me like WTF? It's soooo hard to find connects for this because the quantities out there are so limited (I mean i think that's why). I have no really tried hanging out with people who might do it and do H though just because my limited experiences with other addicts have not been so great - I did have one other friend who did it but she NEVER EVER introduced me or even made it so that I would see/meet her connects. I always had to pay her nearly double and she would get them for me sometimes - but sometimes she wouldn't come back she would have taken off with my money or she would call me in the middle of the night repeatedly asking to borrow money.

She also traumatized the fuck out of me by injecting herself in the middle of my living room with what looked to be a very dull needle - she had to jab herself several times and she bled on my nice white carpet although it was more that it was a bit disturbing to watch. I know I probably sound like a judgmental prick right now probably... That's not why I cut her off though - I fought with her after she took the last of my pay one night and left me super sick to go god knows where - didn't pick up my calls for a week and had the nerve to turn up on my doorstep the next week asking for a loan after she had caused me to be super sick I was like fuuuuuck yooouuuu!
 
I've never tried much else other than Oxy (as far as opiates are concerned I mean)... Once I got a phentanyl patch it was OK - kept the WDs at bay which is important but did not give me the same kind of high. This might surprise some people but when I first started taking oxy I didn't know about crushing and snorting. It was a guy I was dating at the time who told me about it but once I tried crushing and snorting that was all I wanted to do. It's MUCH better.. And it gives me energy for some reason. I know that sounds weird but when I first started doing it that way I was amazed - of a sudden I could work all night and all day - be super productive and feel great... I haven't really found anything else quite like it. I do about 240 - 320mgs of oxy per day. Generic so that i can crush it preferably but i'll eat it (obviously) if all i can get my hands on are the stupid gel shitty ones by Purdue.
 
yeah allz i get here are the crushable snortable ones by mundiepharma (the 40s and the 80s) you'd be in paradise here.
 
I feel so bad for you ladies having to go through this bullshit, I wish I could help somehow. There's been some good ideas in this thread though, networking through dealers of other drugs that u know, having a dude bust that piece of shit in the fucking face etc.
Now my idea might seem strange but why don't u try to go to n.a or even a.a, lots of programs in every community I've ever been in and there's lots of addicts(active or not) that u can network through. I can almost guarantee after a few meetings you'll meet some like minded individuals and find yourself a proper connect, or at least a decent middleman that won't molest u. I'm in Massachusetts and even in the hick towns they have n.a meetings so I think you can find one wherever ur at as long as it isn't deep in Alaska u should be good lol. Do u only use pills or do u use heroin as well? Dope is much easier to find and most dealers are pretty on point and they value repeat business ime. U just hit up the ghetto, look for the gangster rappers and ask around and your sure to find something. With pills u really can't do that, not where I'm from anyways. Well I wish u all the luck in the world and I'll pray u find a decent connect soon dear, hmu if I can answer any questions for u, I'd be more than happy to answer them for u if I can, good luck and god bless.
 
It is, trust me. I've also went to an NA meeting trying to find a connect lmao I guess we all think alike. I mainly use roxi 30s because I can at least keep that habit more under control and it's hard to find good dope where I live although the connect I do have for dope has fire lol. But I'm just gonna keep going to my main GOOD plug for 30s bc he's consistent and doesn't bullshit me
 
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It's fine. He also doesn't answer the phone half the time, usually when I'm dopesick so I'm just not gonna fuck with him anymore
 
I cut ties with them. If you are dependent on them for drugs, well there's always the internet and all (don't try to score drugs here). You can also quit drugs, except maybe some extremely rare case where your life is truly dependent on a super rare black market medication that only one person steals from somewhere and sells forward, but I'm willing to bet nobody here is in such a situation. It may seem like you are dependent on your drug dealer, but it's usually actually the other way around. He's just using your physical dependency as leverage. I mean in the big scheme of things, if they're a prick and all their customers move somewhere else, what are they gonna do then? The whole begging customers gets to the ego of most dealers.
 
Yeah simply exercising your choice as a consumer is probably what I'd do. I wouldn't necessarily advocate violence against the individual because, scumbag though they may be, being a scumbag by itself isn't a good reason to use violence IMO. Using violence against another person should be a decision one takes seriously and I don't think merely creepily hitting on women & being an asshole generally-speaking meets the qualifications for such an action.

as long as it isn't deep in Alaska u should be good lol
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We have them here, too ;)
 
Burnt Offerings said:
Yeah simply exercising your choice as a consumer is probably what I'd do. I wouldn't necessarily advocate violence against the individual because, scumbag though they may be, being a scumbag by itself isn't a good reason to use violence IMO. Using violence against another person should be a decision one takes seriously and I don't think merely creepily hitting on women & being an asshole generally-speaking meets the qualifications for such an action.

We have them here, too ;)
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Ever been a repeat victim of it? Might change your mind, fuck those assholes, people like that deserve a good dose of karma by baseball bat.
 
Nope, like I said previously in the thread I've never had the pleasure of the OP's experience. But I have encountered some pretty fucked up behavior on the parts of others over the course of my life, and most of the time the best approach to the problem isn't bludgeoning someone with a blunt object. I've witnessed some very violent assaults before and it's not something that I particularly enjoy watching or participating in, to each their own though I guess.
 
I'm not sure I would enjoy actually doing it. But it can be damn enjoyable fantasizing about it.
 
to OP: For the girl that ran off with your money. Cut her off completely. If there are no consequences to actions like that, it will keep happening. At most, when you get a decent supply (after you find a decent dealer) just use in front of her all the time and charge her double for what they should be.

Carry pepper spray. When dude starts getting grabby, pull it out. It is a good deterrent, and chances are you may not need to use it. Usually the type of behavior this guy is exhibiting escalates. At some point you might be alone with him, and far from public view and he takes that opportunity to assault you. I would either put the fear of god in him by having a friend kick his ass, or just cut ties completely.

If you are spending as much as you say you are, then maybe find a suboxone doctor. Yes it is expensive, but generally doctors don't molest you. That way you can at least have some bupenorphine on hand in case you do run into a dry spell, and you have the control when it comes to spending. The two parasites you go to, need your money to keep their habits going. With bupe, you won't need them. If they text and call after you have gotten a script to bupe, just don't answer. Let them ring you off the hook cos I'm sure they have pulled the whole"I got your money and now I'm not going to answer for a few hours bit."

I had a similar situation with an acquaintance of mine running off with my money. It only happened once because I found his girlfriend that hew as going to share the drugs with, plied her with a couple of pills and waited for him to get back from the copping spot. I hid in the bedroom till he got there. When he came in the door and broke out the heroin he scored with my money I walked out holding my bat and just told him that I would be taking the drugs, and if he was that desperate he can get the crumbs out of my empty bags. Use their habits against them.
 
JessFR said:
I'm not sure I would enjoy actually doing it. But it can be damn enjoyable fantasizing about it.
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Fuck yeah... I feel like when you are being cool about everything and you offer more money and you're still being pushed around... Well it does make you disposed to dream up revenge scenarios. If I did that though I could probably forget about that source since I doubt they would see me again.
 
Update: molester plug broke in main plugs house and got caught and arrested today. Funny how karma works hahaha
Oh yeah did I mention that molester plug has a girlfriend (2 yrs +)? And still does that shit. What an asshole
 
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Cliffy78 said:
I feel so bad for you ladies having to go through this bullshit, I wish I could help somehow. There's been some good ideas in this thread though, networking through dealers of other drugs that u know, having a dude bust that piece of shit in the fucking face etc.
Now my idea might seem strange but why don't u try to go to n.a or even a.a, lots of programs in every community I've ever been in and there's lots of addicts(active or not) that u can network through. I can almost guarantee after a few meetings you'll meet some like minded individuals and find yourself a proper connect, or at least a decent middleman that won't molest u. I'm in Massachusetts and even in the hick towns they have n.a meetings so I think you can find one wherever ur at as long as it isn't deep in Alaska u should be good lol. Do u only use pills or do u use heroin as well? Dope is much easier to find and most dealers are pretty on point and they value repeat business ime. U just hit up the ghetto, look for the gangster rappers and ask around and your sure to find something. With pills u really can't do that, not where I'm from anyways. Well I wish u all the luck in the world and I'll pray u find a decent connect soon dear, hmu if I can answer any questions for u, I'd be more than happy to answer them for u if I can, good luck and god bless.
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Thanks so much for your post - this has a lot of good suggestions actually. N.A. meeting is not a bad idea - though I would hate to jeopardize anyone's recovery maybe I could explain to someone I'm trying to taper down because I can't miss any work and I would love an intro if they are comfortable etc. and I would def. be willing to pay for the info - maybe if the person didn't want cash because they were worried about using it to score I could offer to help them with their CV or something like that (I have professional skills that could be of use to someone, maybe)... I guess if the person was an opiate user trying to navigate real-world obligations they might understand... And also I might also learn something or gain something from the session so - double win. I've been thinking lately, with the way things are going that I really do need to get this in check but I'm so scared of the pain. I wish I could get a few days off... I've never tried H... I was so scared because I knew I would love it and I'm already terrified at how bad this has gotten for me. I never really meant for any of this to happen, when I first got oxy I was even reluctant to use it I had heard a lot of really bad things... Ha, seems so far away now. I am sure it would be cheaper though... But at the same time, I know this is going to be very weird to people but the pills don't make me sleepy and hazy - they give me energy - it's not a central nervous system stimuli kind of energy - just a very calm and relaxed yet energetic state (I normally suffer from anxiety and panic attacks so maybe that has something to do with it)...
 
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