Trevor!!!!! ::waves like a crazy person:: How are you, Love??? :-*
Hey Socks
I'm feeling a bit better. Was able to sleep about five hours after a friends gave me 600mg neurontin last night. Side note : if you can get Ttys scripted holy shit does it quiet the screaming nerves/restless legs and arms. If obtained for that purpose, I'd say keep your tolerance to it low and only take during wd just to be safe. I've also heard it can have a nasty wd profile of its own.
How are you both feeling? And everyone?
Ive been blasting music and looking at man candy online lol.
I did get a bit of coke just now. Wamp wamp wamp.... Oh well. I'm not much ofa fan so not worried about it. Just a crutch for now to get me through the next few or couple days.
Once late last year I did use coke to mitigate withdrawal. I'll say it worked, however, not with the no sleep part lol. But it made every other symptom bearable. Though by the end I was CRACKED THE FUCK OUT lol even after stopping it due to no sleep and no appetite. Some report stimulants are hell for then in wd. Not for me. So at your own risk. Plus again I'm not a hugegfan of it. So I have zero worries about stopping.
I did the smallest line of dope earlier toobbut barely felt it. Only did our because it was offered to me while waiting three days for coke lol. Not worried. Wd is pretty much over. Even if I have mild wd tomorrow, which I doubt, I have coke to drown it out.
Sounds like a solid plan in my head but written out just looks junkie-y lol. Oh well. Gotta do what I gots do to guarantee I don't slip. I feel once a weekpassesI'm pretty safe as it doesn't seem to take long to get used to the new routine. Likewise, after a few h slip ups its easy to get right back into that routine.
Shroomy, I've taken subs before though I wouldn't say a ton. Moderate though, more than a little. In my experience, I have taken them about twelve hours - sometimes less - after doing dope. With no ill effect. However, everyone Ida different and I don't doubt that some would get precipitated wd from that. Never was a problem for me.
You could either save them for future wd that comes unplanned. Or do what you said. I'd wait a MINIMUM of 12 hrs, or until at LEAST the higher end of minimal wd symptoms presents. Again I've taken them before I really have symptoms other than feeling shitty bc I'm not on h lol, but perhaps I'm fortunate. Though they always depress and demotivate (not a real word according to my spell check lol) me. Warning you because I know you're prone to mood issues. Just be ready in case they depress you like they do me. I actually hate subs except that I hate being dope sick more lol.
Also, apparently according to many they are useless to take a ton. of. In other words, many claim they're a ceiling to their effect and less is more. I'd try - if you are interested inn stretching them - maybe taking 2mg/ one quarter of a strip (if u have the 8mg strip), wait a half hour to an hour, see how you feel. Take another single or 2 mg after if necessary. I think you might be ok on 4mg. Also, some will dose twice a day. So instead of taking 4mg fit examine they take 2, then 2 more twelve hours later. You'll know how much you needed if you take some and twelve hours later you feel like shit. That's happened to me too, I took some, felt ok, then twelve hours later, nope, didn't hold me. But do try the minimum dose. This way it lasts longer, and perhaps you'll save some for af emergency. It's so easy not to think ahead....but then you're dope sick and KICKING yourself for gobbling it up lol. When high you don't think about it, future sick you wishes you still had some though lol.
I hate the way that shit tastes. One day I was spraying a cleaner, out smelled horrible and I thought omg this shit smells like subs taste ugh. Not my favorite cleaner lol. I think it was some scrubbing bubbles shit lol.
Oh, speaking of actually taking it, I had an issue with my mouth just FILLING with spit lol as it dissolved. I'd try keeping it under my tongue for 30-60 minutes, partly bc I was broke and did not want to waste any lol. Others have not had this problem, maybe I'm just spitty lol. My friend who would keep out a MINIMUM of a half hour didn't have that issue at all, in fact his moth would get dry. Just warning you in case you're liquidy like me lol. Out was a real pain in the ass if I had to cough or sneeze etc.(edit: for maximum use, I kept it in my mouth as I said at least thirty minutes; I would as time passed swish around that nasty tasting sub flavored spit and get all of that nasty tasting shit absorbed into my mouth, until my spot no longer tasted like it. It can take a while but it's doable. I found that bete than just leaving out sit in one spot under my tongue, when I did that It didn't always get fully absorbed in same amount of time)
(edit 2: oh one more thing. When I swallowed the liquid/sub spit after I'd get horrible migraines from it so that's another reason is keep it in my mouth forever and swish out until my spit didn't taste like sub anymore. I'd spit it out. Just a heads up, if you get a head ache that could be why, if you swallow it. Upon researching - and these were not scientific sites so take this with a boulder of salt - I read that some are allergic or have bad reactions to the naloxone thus the head ache, as its better absorbed in the stomach {the naloxone, not the bupe} whereas the bupe is better absorbed in the mouth. Spitting it out did work for me to stop the headaches. Maybe I am sensitive to the naloxone since they depress me badly too...)
Ok enough babbling.
*this rambling post was sponsored by coke, apparently*
I hope everyone is ok, sry least hanging in there. Let us know how you are doing everyone. I have so much love for you all. Thank you for everything :-*
And welcome, sTAR! How much sub did you need in the past with a comparable habit? That might help me think of what to tell you.
Xoxoxoxo