thelastclubkid
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Sorry, but you can't compare the "withdrawal" from a 2 week pill habit to something like the kick from a years long heroin addiction... It's not even in the same ball park..
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Sorry, but you can't compare the "withdrawal" from a 2 week pill habit to something like the kick from a years long heroin addiction... It's not even in the same ball park..
im on day 3 of cold turkey from 150mg (10/15mg) roxi's a day and i feel fine.. i LOVE tramadol popped some codeine i had laying around but i def didn't need to... mac have you tried tramadol for wd... its wonderful imo
im on day 3 of cold turkey from 150mg (10/15mg) roxi's a day and i feel fine.. i LOVE tramadol popped some codeine i had laying around but i def didn't need to... mac have you tried tramadol for wd... its wonderful imo
How long were you using....It takes a minute to get a full blown habit...
You can play "musical opioids" all you want and it can help if you do it right, but come talk to us when you have nothing and then you'll really know how bad your habit was...
The OP is talking about long-term daily methadone and benzo use....big difference between that and a couple month on and off oxy run....
I ask this not bc I agree with it but bc in one of my posts someone suggested it to me. While I do agree that some wds are in your head I think its nowhere near 90%~more like the other way around. My post was about coming off methadone & not being able to sleep. I assume if the person thought meth wds were all in your head-all other opiate could be included. It brings me back to when I first got addicted to oxys.
Ill admit it:I was one of those people who thought addiction could never happen to them(dont worry I learned quick!) In high school all I ever did was alcohol & pot & it never even occured to me to try anything. Also my parents are still together(happily),absolutly no addiction in my family(they barley drink),no tramatic events in my childhood(I couldnt have asked for a better one),everything you think an addict wouldve gone through I didnt. Which kinda sucks bc it really means I have no excuse to be a fuck up.
Anyways I went to college away from home(I will admit to being sheltered,naive) & got a bf. We were in his dorm room & I can still remember it to this day....him rushing in the door with this little pink pill(an oc 20),he suggested we split it & snort it. I had never snorted anything in my life but after a while I got talked into it. I loved it. I used on the weekends & it turned into thur,fri wkends ect. I didnt ever think id get dope sick-i just didnt think it could happen to me. I did them for about a year-nothing no wds. Anyways one morning I woke up at about 3am feeling AWFUL. I thought it was weird bc I always sleot in even if I was sick. I renember being on my laptop & a lightbulb went off in my head;"Jen,youre addicted to this stuff." I couldnt believe it....this wasnt happening to ME. Anyways I called my bf at like 7,explained we HAD to get more oxys,we did...I felt better & Im sure anyone addicted to opiates can figure the rest out.
I was just wondering what all you guys thought(it offended me i guess...someone telling me somthing was just in my head when I know it not to be true!!
They actually seem to get easier for me, cane. Kinda like, well, I've been through this several times...getting used to it.
To answer OP, some of it is mental, but the shits, the nausea, the RLS, the high blood pressure, the constant sweating...that's pretty physical to me lol. The insomnia could be construed as mental though.
well i don't wanna get in a pissing match over that "fact" as i have read people argue over tramadol til they are blue in the face but only 1 state (i forget maybe tn) considers it to be a sched 2 and it is technically a synthetic drug "similar" to opiates and DOES NOT show up as an opiat in a tox screen etc.. all of this is moot as i am not trying to quit or anything just ran out of my meds due to taking an extra a day as dr allowed yet my insurance does not agree it is time for a refill... i have never experienced tramadol withdrawl as i dont us them long enough to build up but i wouldn't doubt that tramadol withdrawl exists as well.. im just saying its an easy fix that drs can call in and it wont raise an eyebrow as to drug seeking etcyou do realize tramadol is an opiate too.... i mean all the power in the world to ya but taking a different opiate to supress opiate WD's doesnt work...
How long were you using....It takes a minute to get a full blown habit...
You can play "musical opioids" all you want and it can help if you do it right, but come talk to us when you have nothing and then you'll really know how bad your habit was...
The OP is talking about long-term daily methadone and benzo use....big difference between that and a couple month on and off oxy run....
oh it definitely helped (the 1st time i had wd i legit thought i was in danger of dying) see my above post for details but i have been on oxy for 5yrs no less than 190mgs daily for past 3 yrs... im not trying to flaunt it or minimize other peoples agony but trust me if u havent tried tramadol for withdrawl give it a whirlIf something as weak as Tramadol actually helped your withdrawal in any significant way.. You weren't that strung out.
oh it definitely helped (the 1st time i had wd i legit thought i was in danger of dying) see my above post for details but i have been on oxy for 5yrs no less than 190mgs daily for past 3 yrs... im not trying to flaunt it or minimize other peoples agony but trust me if u havent tried tramadol for withdrawl give it a whirl
I find the mental aspect becomes apparent right around the end of the acute withdrawal stage and into the transition to PAWS. You can definitely psyche yourself out, telling yourself the acute stage and pain will never end, and make yourself miserable for a few extra days or a week when you would have started to feel better naturally. Then, once the PAWS starts, you can take a symptom and mentally amplify it to a huge degree if you're not thinking positive thoughts and in the wrong head space. But for that first week or two in the acute phase..doesn't matter what you tell yourself or how positive you are. You're hurting. That is of course if you had a real habit.
what is your daily dosage how long for and means of taking it if you dont mind me asking?... i take 100 mg (tramadol) at a time and no more than 4 times a day cuz im scared of seizures... i dont want to sound like a snot but t intrigues me how it can vary so deeply for diff peopleI have tried it. Didn't do shit. But, glad it worked for you.
what is dhc? im in a fucked up boat right now where i need surgery soon and want to get my tollerance level down cuz while il prob be on opies my whole life i cant imagine them increasing it more due to my size and im obvi gonna need more than my "norm" after surgerytramadol helps some people i think cause of the SNRI properties it has during opiate withdrawal i think. its opiate mechanism is pretty much next to fucking useless though.
the best thing to come off oxy or any opiate for me was DHC. it helped me quit quickly and without as much pain as i should have felt.