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Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
The government is spending 129.3 billion on pensioners this year (excluding their cost to the NHS). That's more than welfare, more than education, more than the NHS, and more than defense. Yet you think you've proven your point because 4.3% went unclaimed? Alright then... http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/total_spending_2012UKbn
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the point wasnt about how much is being spent where. it's irrelevant

the point is about pensioners not having a sence of entitlement.

If they were like that there wouldnt be so much unclaimed benifit

and if youre going to do a comparison at all, you should be comparing the amount of unclaimed cash as a percentage of number of people not claiming job seekers or whatever, when theyre entitled to

this is a cultural thing, and also because of the shere effort it takes to make claims. I cant be fucked claiming what I'm entitled to atm, due to a number of complex fuck ups. I cant imagine that when in 70 I'd be even capable of sorting out complex stuff. it's just to much mental torture tbh
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
I think you're clever and honest enough to know that asking on this forum isn't going to give you a proper sample. If this forum was representative of wider society in any way drugs would have been legalised 50 years ago.
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Then shut up typing. what's the point?

stupid point. it's about an issue separate from the niche of what BL is, and as such that makes the people commenting very valid

there's a great cross section of people here. you seem to be quick to jump on the 'we're all just druggies' bandwagon when it suits. bizarre
 
Marmalade said:
the point wasnt about how much is being spent where. it's irrelevant

the point is about pensioners not having a sence of entitlement.

If they were like that there wouldnt be so much unclaimed benifit

and if youre going to do a comparison at all, you should be comparing the amount of unclaimed cash as a percentage of number of people not claiming job seekers or whatever, when theyre entitled to

this is a cultural thing, and also because of the shere effort it takes to make claims. I cant be fucked claiming what I'm entitled to atm, due to a number of complex fuck ups. I cant imagine that when in 70 I'd be even capable of sorting out complex stuff. it's just to much mental torture tbh
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4.3% going unclaimed proves nothing. I imagine, as you seem to have implied too, that a lot of that isn't claimed through sheer difficulty to pensioners. While the other 95.7% goes claimed, and election after election each party falls over themselves to give the pensioners more while they escape almost all the cuts that have happened, you don't have a point.
 
Marmalade said:
Then shut up typing. what's the point?

stupid point. it's about an issue separate from the niche of what BL is, and as such that makes the people commenting very valid

there's a great cross section of people here. you seem to be quick to jump on the 'we're all just druggies' bandwagon when it suits. bizarre
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Your stupid little argument ad populum using BL members isn't going to wash. We might all come from different backgrounds on here, but in case you hadn't noticed almost everyone on here has a socialist bent. Opinions between this little group of people very rarely differ on anything, yet if you look at wider society they aren't reflective in the slightest.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
4.3% going unclaimed proves nothing. I imagine, as you seem to have implied too, that a lot of that isn't claimed through sheer difficulty to pensioners. While the other 95.7% goes claimed, and election after election each party falls over themselves to give the pensioners more while they escape almost all the cuts that have happened, you don't have a point.
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there's a part of your brain missing. so as always, this is pointless until you work things out with mum and dad. and granny and grandad probably

I'm sorry you had a miserable childhood. I did too.
 
Marmalade said:
NO!
you don't get it. it's nothing to do with overall spend. FUCK ALL

you're in autobot mode.
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Why? A minority of pensioners don't claim part of their pensions, most likely through naivety, and that proves your point apparently? Because it's entirely impossible that there are more pensioners than the amount of non-claiments within the much larger majority right?
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
I think you're clever and honest enough
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No you don't, you're just being a patronising cunt

Marmalade said:
you're in autobot mode.
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Indeed.
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Marmalade said:
and if youre going to do a comparison at all, you should be comparing the amount of unclaimed cash as a percentage of number of people not claiming job seekers or whatever, when theyre entitled to
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this is the only relevant percentage you should be looking at.

this debate was nothing to do with cross percetages with other government departments, no matter how much you want it to be
 
Marmalade said:
there's a part of your brain missing. so as always, this is pointless until you work things out with mum and dad. and granny and grandad probably

I'm sorry you had a miserable childhood. I did too.
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Don't try and paint me as something i'm not to try and prove your point. It really is rather pathetic. Are you what I can look forward to if I keep using drugs? Because you're putting me off a bit.
 
Marmalade said:
well, I certainly wouldn't take it upon myself to speak for the wider society.

but I'll leave you to do just that from your bitter soapbox <3
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Right so let's look at beliefs that you can find among almost all BLers that wider society doesn't share, and has therefore not been reflected in government policy in any way:
-Ardently atheist
-Very left wing, thinks more money should be spent on every element but defense.
-Liberal towards drugs
-Anti-Israel sentiment

I could go on. But i'll let you tell me a small number of fundamental issues in society and the economy that you guys disagree on :)
 
I'm almost on the autistic spectrum but it turns out I'm just plain personality disorder.

I'd definitely put MSB in the ASD bracket.
 
badandwicked said:
agreed. And I didn't mean it insultingly either.

Commence stage 3 of the MSB argument pattern:

3. Get personal and snippy.

:)
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You will notice the personal snippy comments started ^^^^ up there. 9/10 it starts with someone else, usually SHM. You clearly mean to say that i'm ASD in some way so as to add weight to your argument, which is just stupid.
 
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