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new2drugs said:
Because the setting I'm taking it is in a bar/club/ music event and there is loads of drink there.
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you want to mix heavily with alcohol because there is a lot of alcohol in the venue?

there will also be a lot of water in the venue too I'd imagine - go for that instead

mdma and alcohol is a shit combo on multiple levels
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
you want to mix heavily with alcohol because there is a lot of alcohol in the venue?

there will also be a lot of water in the venue too I'd imagine - go for that instead

mdma and alcohol is a shit combo on multiple levels
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But I can't help but do it
 
So what does everyone do when rolling in a place that serves alcohol such as a gig or club?
 
new2drugs said:
drinking while on is ok or not recommended?

what are the real dangers and im sure people have done it and have stories on it.
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1. Increases the chances that you will develop a severe hyperthermia. Especially if it's not MDMA and it's a methcathinone it can be fatal.

2. Increases the frequency and severity of the heart arrhythmia is that everyone gets when they take party. Drug stimulants in the dose that they take it. Again, methcathinones are severely more cardioactive then MDMA.

3. Cardiac arrest from vasoconstriction. (Methcathinones again - butylone, methylone, pentalone, etc)

4. A higher heart rate than you would have had with MDMA alone which could result in atrial fibrillation, especially with the increased arrhythmia.

5. Depending on the amount of alcohol that you drink, you could have a severe life-threatening or fatal hypertensive episode or event, especially if you took a Methcathinone.

6. Depending on what type of MDXX drug it is or if it's a different phenethylamine, You run the risk of a stroke due to high blood pressure and vasoconstriction.
 
shugenja said:
1. Increases the chances that you will develop a severe hyperthermia. Especially if it's not MDMA and it's a methcathinone it can be fatal.

2. Increases the frequency and severity of the heart arrhythmia is that everyone gets when they take party. Drug stimulants in the dose that they take it. Again, methcathinones are severely more cardioactive then MDMA.

3. Cardiac arrest from vasoconstriction. (Methcathinones again - butylone, methylone, pentalone, etc)

4. A higher heart rate than you would have had with MDMA alone which could result in atrial fibrillation, especially with the increased arrhythmia.

5. Depending on the amount of alcohol that you drink, you could have a severe life-threatening or fatal hypertensive episode or event, especially if you took a Methcathinone.

6. Depending on what type of MDXX drug it is or if it's a different phenethylamine, You run the risk of a stroke due to high blood pressure and vasoconstriction.
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And yet everyone is taking them together at parties and music festivals 😱
 
new2drugs said:
And yet everyone is taking them together at parties and music festivals 😱
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I think saying everybody is a pretty inaccurate statement.

I'm sure there are lots of people that drink alcohol and take MDXX or whatever the fuck it is. Most of the people doing that came to the venue and bought their drugs from people they don't know.

Just because stupid people do stupid s*** doesn't mean you should jump on the bandwagon.
 
Oh I got stories lol
Facts, just the basics for harm reduction ( can be dangerous)
It's not recommended: depends or your company , I wouldn't recommend it but yea we've all done it with various levels of experience.

Me personally it's kinda wasteful. The upper and downer. The MDMA usually will cause a bit of an upset stomach and alcohol always tore me up anyway. Granted by the time I was popping x and doing shots off strippers; I was fairly experienced with poly drug combos.

I remember a few times tho it was fine, like doing a random line with a stranger in the bathroom. Sometimes it's great, other times it's absolutely a painful mistake that is only funny as a memory among old friends.

One time I remember pretty well , strip club rolling face , I pushed a chair into this Huge scary looking gangster. I immediately started to apologize wavering my hands frantically. They just nodded at me. A few minutes later we were all doing shots with them. None of em spoke English but it was the best night. I didn't mind the hangover the next day

Another time we went to the casino while rolling, my buddy was a genius and had dark sunglasses on , I did not. And I kept making eye contact with everyone, lol I started drinking solely to try to fit in. Lol we both did, we got so sloppy drunk we re-dosed somehow managed to link up with a friend of a friend and dragged him down to another casino. It was soo lit and dum at the same time. Everyone was surprisingly nice to us I tried to tip everyone for everything. The next day we were still awake . I think we took a nap in the truck middle of the next day in the parking garage.

The best time was sxsw when the white stripes were big (I don't remember what year) .
Classic bar hopping with best friends and strangers, had been taking downers all day because of the previous days mushroom experience. Started drinking around 10 pm, overpriced shitty mix drinks , get in a scuffle with my best friend in the world. Everyone splits up, around 1 am we somehow all met back up at one place. Couple was rolling face when I got there , they got me a couple tabs. Just then my buddy I got into it with walked in.

We see each other and sit silently across a booth. I literally just passed him a tab and said " I planned to take both but, you wanna have some fun". We drop together, start talking , he was venting about how ridiculous the night had been so far. Some 45 minutes later he's basically bawling his eyes out about the fight earlier. It was like the shitty crazy night suddenly evaporatorated, my drunk weighed down feeling instantly gave way to jump up and party time. I started trying to give my friend a light show , lol he stopped talking and just , well he melted into the couch. I remember having a nasty cough and I know he was dry heaving. But otherwise that night was fucking littt, there was a million parts I left out , and the after after party with random ppl from the club ... I still keep up with my buddy.
 
Most of my MDMA use has been in combination with a fuckton of alcohol. If its good shit, then I don't feel the booze. If it's MehDMA, I just go to sleep quicker...
 
It seems to work if you take the mdma when sober or nearly sober. After it's in full swing you can add alcohol so long as it's something like beer that won't get you drunk too fast.
 
^^in the first few posts it explains how the high is dulled because one is an upper and one is a downer, it's described all through out these four pages, and then you (new2drugs) were saying it makes you black out. i'd say blacking out will ruin mdma. usually i like to stay awake for my drug experiences. lol

i'd say if you want to drink and amplify the experience, try like half 1/8th of some good dried shrooms. maybe go to the bar a few hours into the trip to make sure you are ready... i used to love to drink at the end of shroom trips. granted i'd usually just be laying around my bed room.

i personally know a lot of people that drink on E though. i don't get it. they do it a lot from what i understand. i rolled good once on MDA and then after that i tried stuff that was supposedly MDMA like a few different times. i didn't wait long enough and i was going weeks and months between doses. the quality of the MDMA probably wasn't good or something, but the mda i took a half of a pill and then two or three weeks later took the other half with some shrooms, it was not potent at all the second time. i don't know if all the drugs were in like one half the pill or something or if the tolerance is just super fast for me. probably tolerance from what i read.

if MDA worked all the time or even weekly, i'd say i liked it more than shrooms. shrooms get a cool relaxing buzz though when using alcohol. i don't think it goes toxic like mdma and whatnot.
 
My advise is if you do and I have many times stick to Screwdrivers that will OJ and Cranberry and Vodka. Other than that both will dehydrate the hell out of you so do as I do make damn sure you have couple Gatorades and I like Monster energy
just to keep electrolytes in balance. I would NOT recommend downing lots of alcohol and lots of Molly. Trust me when muscles lock up and YES they damn well will try to move? Usually in the legs in morning for most guys but should you somehow go
overboard -Yes I have TOTALLY AMAZING same thing in the GYM when legs were like swollen from the juice and too many leg extension. But what is the emergency medicine >>>>? So cheap and always effective IF you can make it to kitchen. Maybe the table in the kitchen> ? As if you were ripping open Atropine or Narcan in life saving situation and trust me like Charlie horse x 10 keep good 5 -10 Bananas waiting. you just found what imbalance of drinking and XTC in excess may or may not do .
Also get few those post workout supplements throw them in the Frig too for extra electrolyte help . It does lockup hard and will definitely go away. had it happen at least 20 times since 1990s. And so many when workouts ATP Burnout got normal. Then again look at this >>>> think some crazy chemical muscle imbalance going on>>>? :unsure:
bodybuilding GIF
 
IMO upper limit for most people is 2 – 3 units of alcohol and not more than 1 before and during peak while at the same time hydrating yourself with non-alcoholic drinks/water but any amount is bound to make it more damaging and/or less pleasurable.

FOR THOSE WORRIED ABOUT FACT THAT IDIOTS AROUND YOU DRINK AND FEEL PRESSURE BECAUSE THAT LISTEN TO ME; AND DRINK NON-ALCOHOLIC HEALTHY AND TASTY COCKTAILS AND I GUARANTEE YOU’LL HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN WITH ALCOHOL!!!

Hell even coffee is bad with MDMA. I used to drink a strong cup with/before MDMA when I wanted more uplifting experience but hypethermia risk is not worth it. Proper dose of caffeine + proper dose of MDMA result in a noticeably more uplifting high but also 0.5C higher body temperature than from MDMA alone. I wonder is it same with amphetamine.

I guess light stimulant/low dose of pure stimulant + MDMA XTC is not a thing because that and other increased side-effects, potentially especially bad for regular XTC munchers who’ll add other stuff LIKE ALCOHOL anyway.
 
SpiralusSancti said:
IMO upper limit for most people is 2 – 3 units of alcohol and not more than 1 before and during peak while at the same time hydrating yourself with non-alcoholic drinks/water but any amount is bound to make it more damaging and/or less pleasurable.

FOR THOSE WORRIED ABOUT FACT THAT IDIOTS AROUND YOU DRINK AND FEEL PRESSURE BECAUSE THAT LISTEN TO ME; AND DRINK NON-ALCOHOLIC HEALTHY AND TASTY COCKTAILS AND I GUARANTEE YOU’LL HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN WITH ALCOHOL!!!

Hell even coffee is bad with MDMA. I used to drink a strong cup with/before MDMA when I wanted more uplifting experience but hypethermia risk is not worth it. Proper dose of caffeine + proper dose of MDMA result in a noticeably more uplifting high but also 0.5C higher body temperature than from MDMA alone. I wonder is it same with amphetamine.

I guess light stimulant/low dose of pure stimulant + MDMA XTC is not a thing because that and other increased side-effects, potentially especially bad for regular XTC munchers who’ll add other stuff LIKE ALCOHOL anyway.
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Completely agree. Caffeine has actually been shown in several studies to increase the toxicity of MDMA. (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12640-017-9831-9)
 
Nah man, hot coffee or ice cold coffee will be at your body temperature almost as they hit your stomach and amount of heat transferred to or spent by your body is so minuscule that’s not important (well still don’t chug hot drinks while having hypertermia but neither ice cold will save you from it; lukewarm warm will help just as much cuz hypertermia is often accompanied by dehydration and vice versa).

Caffeine itself taken either before or during MDMA experience is reason for increase in body temperature.
 
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