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[zurichsb]

Hey i just wanted to add to this thread cause i think its a great tool wish I had it. It took me 2 years of using oxycotin to realize i was an addict. Not to mention two rehabs (I just thought everyone around me was crazy, family/legal situations forced me to go) because up to that point my life was really good I just liked to get high. Didnt have phsyical withdrawls for about the first year and half. Maybe sleeping issues but weed was a savior. I think most people are addicted long before they know because their life is still good. Addiction is always phsyical it starts off mental a long time before withdrawls start. When you use opiates it alters chemicals in your brain everytime (even if its not noticable, usually it isnt for along time) this is where addiction starts. If your saying "I could quit but why would i want, im not gonna get addicted. i know i have to be careful." You probably are already developing an addiction. Opiates are sneaky. Ive had 3 6 week periods in the last two years. First one was under family pressure, second in rehab, and now im on my third 6 weeks. The first two times I didnt want to stay sober but i had too because of what i thought what was bullshit. This time I moved to a different country and started to make a new life. Just dont be afriad to get help and admit you have a problem. It doesnt make you weak it took me a long time to realize this. But knowing me if i had read this it would have fallen upon deaf ears. If your trying to stay sober i commened you because I know how hard it is, if i had a hookups here like back home i doubtt id be sober. Rehab is a good way to get sober but it wont keep you sober only you can do that and dont be afriad to use NA/AA. Sorry if this post was long wrote it for myself as well as you.

 

[Bell Ringer]

I'm addicted to benzo's but I am prescribed them and benefit from them. However, I am addicted to the needle (not a drug but I think some can relate). I am not willing for help for some reason. I don't know if I ever will be.

Ok I am addicted to sharps w/ syringe to be accurate. I have shoot almost any drug that I was able to form a sulution of. Right now my DOC is cocaine. Even though is is fire/fishscale term does not matter. Cocaine does not matter. I can hardly feel it.

I am not addicted to cocaine. It is the Needle, that bloom of blood when I register. Been shooting for 3.25% of my life 26 now started at 17. If I can quit 160mg methadone cold turkey why is the needle so hard to put down? I know the answer. I am one of Pavlov's dogs. Could use some feedback, esp. from people with the same issue (past or present).

 

[rolls]

I'm really depressed and kind of wish I could just end it, but I'm not a pussy and have too much to live for, I am however dreading what I'm about to face and I'm so scared of it I'm back to not sleeping (and when I do I have horrible night terrors)

Try and get scripted clonidine and some benzos if possible. The clonidine will help you sleep and make the withdrawal much milder, the benzos will help with the anxiety you are experiencing.

Ring up every drug help line you can get in contact with, there WILL be someone who is willing to help you unlike the asshole doctors who sent you on your way with no relief or advice.

What country/state are you in?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Good to see you, rolls. I don't see you around too often anymore.

 

[rolls]

Good to see you, rolls. I don't see you around too often anymore.

Ta, I updated the main post adding details of clonidine to it. Check your PMs as well

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Cool, clonidine is used a lot in ORT so that'll be really helpful for the forum.

I haven't ever used clonidine before, but I may look into it if/when I decide to get off of Suboxone.

 

[poundinG FISts]

You smoke FENTANYL

I wish my life was consumed by constant fentanyl intoxication. I hate it, I hate the high, I get sick, I'm throwing up all day from smoking it, my throat hurts from it, but I can't stop. It pains me to say, but I doubt I'll live another year. I have too much pride to go to rehab, so this is it

I've never hear of "smoking" fentanyl. I guess this is almost the same process as like cooking Ketamine.

I did my first patch (100mg) of Fentanyl a few days ago, took 10 Klonipins, 170mg of Methadone, smoke some weed, and about 20 peach XANAX. Best high of my life. But I will definitely NOT make a habit out of it.

 

[Cap'n Jay]

Whenever I wanted to attemp to quit heroin, (but I think this goes for all drugs) (all attempts so far have failed terribly) these are the things I did:

1. Delete all the numbers of my dealers from my phone.
2. Hide my debit card.
3. Finish off whatever dope I have left and not buy anymore.
4. Stocked up on stuff I needed; food, water, etc...
5. Had a friend lock me in the pool house.

That has failed everytime, all I end up doing is lowering my dosage which is good, but withdrawl is a bitch.
Plus, never tell your dealer that you are going to try to quit, and don't let word get out that you are going to quit, the dealers around here will do anything to keep you on there stuff, I'm sure that goes for all dealers. [:
Just thought I'd share this. It might not be helpful but w/e.

Cap'n Jay.

 

[rolls]

5. Had a friend lock me in the pool house.
.

Replace this with:

Have a mate stay with you for 2 weeks that will physically restrain you or kick your ass if you try and score. This way you aren't left in agony from your thoughts and can actually do things, maybe even longer if possible.

 

[Miamibitch09]

I had to go to a detox hospital to get off shooting heroin. I was doin about a gram a day for almost two years. They used suboxone and I only needed it for like three days and then the withdrawals were gone. It's been a year since then and I haven't relapsed. Although I have shot some morphine since then...just a few times tho. The mental cravings are still there.

 

[rolls]

jesus only 3 days? sounds like sub is a bit of a godsend with opiate addiction.

 

[suninthenight]

Thanks

This thread is really helpful for me. I've been using vicodin and perks every day for probably a year. Started in college after a couple extensive dental procedures...was able to just stop on my own.

I'm in graduate school now and started using when classes started. It helps me to stay positive...having three jobs and classes, internships, papers and readings...I work about 78 hours a week and NO ONE knows that I'm using. No one can tell.

It just helps me to have a couple hours a day where I'm just happy..not worried about anything..able to just sit and relax and feel awesome. Then I go to sleep, wake up and start my day...get home at night and get high.

I don't use during the day..I make myself wait until after 5p..kinda like having a beer after work..

I'm at the point where I'm graduating in less than a year and really need to be able to afford things. I make enough money to afford my pills..but it's tight. Once I'm out of school, life will slow down, and I don't want to take this addiction with me.

I'm definitely addicted, I don't know that I'm a junkie...but I do have a problem. Days when I can't get any...I'm super irritable, tired and have sore sore muscles..a total bitch. I know it's withdrawal..but if I get through the 4 days then I'm good. I've made it past 4 days once and I was fine, then picked back up.

I work in the human service field and have working relationships with tons of people. I can't go into a rehab or detox or see a counselor....I haven't told any of my friends because they are all in the field as well. I'm a huge hypocrite and I know that. I can own that.

I'm not sure what kinds of things to take to make the WD easier when I finally decide to stop (IF I finally decide to stop)

I just wanted to put this out there because there is no one in my life that knows I'm using or the EXTENT of my use.

And I don't want to talk to a doctor either...I have a script for lorazepam (which I think can be helpful) I don't want people knowing about this and I know that means that I have to be committed to getting out of it on my own...just need some advice...thanks

I started using when I was 20, quit when I was 21...picked up when I was 24...I'm 25 now.

 

[rolls]

I'm not sure what kinds of things to take to make the WD easier when I finally decide to stop (IF I finally decide to stop)

And I don't want to talk to a doctor either...I have a script for lorazepam (which I think can be helpful) I don't want people knowing about this and I know that means that I have to be committed to getting out of it on my own...just need some advice...thanks

If you don't see a doctor or tell anyone then who else is there? You have just cancelled out everyone that can possibly help you. You need to see a doc, they won't put a label on you, they are people too and totally understand, my doc put it down as 'anxiety' when he gave me WD meds.

Now as far as what will help, the lorazepam(anxiety, sleep), clonidine(fever,sweats,irritability) and loperamide (the shits, stomach cramps).

If you can go 4 days cold turkey with this arsenal you should be clean in a weak and suffer zero withdrawal. Now to stay clean you need to seek some counselling and this means GOING TO A DOCTOR. There is not one single good reason why you can't go see one.

 

[Free_Man**]

wow great thread rolls - i havent had time to read it all - but i want to help if i can guys ... i have studied psych meds and opiates in some detail , i also have had my fingers burnt and am now clean and sober .....

i thnk it helps to understand the psychological reasons why some people become addicts - a lot of people dont really understand what an addictive personality is - let alone how this can combine with a chemical prediliction which is bound to lead to indulgence....

has anyone here talked about recovery and what they have done to achieve a drug-free state ?

if they have i wont go on - if not pm me or reply on this thread - i want to help - its what i do now

peace out people

F M

 

[rolls]

has anyone here talked about recovery and what they have done to achieve a drug-free state ?

if they have i wont go on - if not pm me or reply on this thread - i want to help - its what i do now

peace out people

F M

Please, post as much as you can. I'd love to know about 'cures' or ways to deal with having an addictive personality especially when coupled with chemical depression.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Please, post as much as you can. I'd love to know about 'cures' or ways to deal with having an addictive personality especially when coupled with chemical depression.

I think that there are different degrees of "addictive personalities" - there are people who become addicted to one drug or another, then there are people who are virtually addicted to every drug they have tried - and would relapse if it was around them (but most of the times it is not due to having it get out of control in their lives).

I think there are plenty of ways to address having an addictive personality, and helping satiate ones own desires in life is possible. It's just that many people who have the "extreme" version of having an addictive personality (poly-drug addict) do not want to work on themselves, they refuse to, they don't think they have a problem, etc. and stems a lot from people with personality disorders.

Overall, if you are able to work on yourself (or at least want to, and think that there is room for improvement), then there's a few important steps you can take to help yourself out:

1) If you can, try talking to a professional psychologist, or start group therapy. Either way, this has the potential to help you work on yourself if you are willing and able to change for the better.

2) Gain a base of friends who are ambivalent about using drugs (are neither pro nor con) - so that they don't trigger cravings by talking about it, etc, by bringing it up either in a positive or negative light. It's good to have friends to just be able to be real with and talk to about subjects that are meaningful and deep in life. It is also good to be able to get things off your chest with such people who will be able to try to understand what you're going through without being judgmental about it.

3) Distance yourself from people who are drug users or abusers. People who are straight up drug addicts - who are still lingering in your life for one reason or another - they may tend to have their more negative qualities rub off on you incidentally or subconsciously - like, the desire to use drugs, or a general laziness/boredom. It is better to leave people who are unwilling to help themselves out in life behind. The only people who are drug users you should be willing to keep as friends are those who have worked on themselves so they aren't desperately/hopelessly addicted.

There's a few other things, but I'm going to end this post here for now to get some feedback/brainstorm some other ideas.

 

[Alonely]

I was planning on taking alprazolam, hydrocodone, or lorazepam, but after reading through just the first two pages of this thread, I am convinced not to. There seems to be so much to lose and not much to gain, mostly considering the addiction potential. I think I'll stick to my home domain of psychedelics, which to me sound and are easier to regulate in terms of frequency of use, as well as give a more interesting, heart-warming, and intellectual experience.

Thank you all for helping me make this decision. I was kind of desperate to do something this weekend because I am in an atmosphere where I am terribly bored, stuck with only a laptop (I much prefer desktops), and all three substances (and more) are readily available, completely free.

 

[eViLChEf]

Help. I have been married for three years to my wife and business partner and chef of our restaurant. We have always done some of this and some of that and she has been the voice of reason when it came to drugs. She doesn't even smoke pot because it makes her feel uncomfortable. Since we met we'd rail up some of my ritalin now and again (I have a script) to stay up and party or what not but about six months ago I realized that I was missing rits. At first I thought I was going crazy but after a while I knew she was taking them. I confronted her, got into fights with her, left, kicked her out, asked her what I could do to help, everything. I started to get very cautious with my perscription about the same time my sister (who lives downstairs) noticed hers starting to go missing. So now what doI do? My indescretion has led to my wife's addiction and loss of trust with my whole family. I risk losing my business, my wife, and the trust of my family. I have been down the route of rehab many years before I met my wife and know that my house will have to be "drug and alcohol" free, but this is not a drug I regularly abuse and does treat my problem. I also am a sommolier (wine specialist) and it would mean not having any more alcohol. I love my wife and would give it all up for her but it has become very difficult because whenever I try to talk to her she turns it around on me.....what the fuck do I do now

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I was planning on taking alprazolam, hydrocodone, or lorazepam, but after reading through just the first two pages of this thread, I am convinced not to. There seems to be so much to lose and not much to gain, mostly considering the addiction potential. I think I'll stick to my home domain of psychedelics, which to me sound and are easier to regulate in terms of frequency of use, as well as give a more interesting, heart-warming, and intellectual experience.

Thank you all for helping me make this decision. I was kind of desperate to do something this weekend because I am in an atmosphere where I am terribly bored, stuck with only a laptop (I much prefer desktops), and all three substances (and more) are readily available, completely free.

To be honest, it would be OK to try hydrocodone, or alprazolam or lorazepam. However, you really don't want to do them a lot at all. There is a lot of abuse potential, as you point out.

Enjoy psychedelics. %)

Help. I have been married for three years to my wife and business partner and chef of our restaurant. We have always done some of this and some of that and she has been the voice of reason when it came to drugs. She doesn't even smoke pot because it makes her feel uncomfortable. Since we met we'd rail up some of my ritalin now and again (I have a script) to stay up and party or what not but about six months ago I realized that I was missing rits. At first I thought I was going crazy but after a while I knew she was taking them. I confronted her, got into fights with her, left, kicked her out, asked her what I could do to help, everything. I started to get very cautious with my perscription about the same time my sister (who lives downstairs) noticed hers starting to go missing. So now what doI do? My indescretion has led to my wife's addiction and loss of trust with my whole family. I risk losing my business, my wife, and the trust of my family. I have been down the route of rehab many years before I met my wife and know that my house will have to be "drug and alcohol" free, but this is not a drug I regularly abuse and does treat my problem. I also am a sommolier (wine specialist) and it would mean not having any more alcohol. I love my wife and would give it all up for her but it has become very difficult because whenever I try to talk to her she turns it around on me.....what the fuck do I do now

It would be best to talk to her about getting help. This means either seeking professional help, or working towards recovery. If she is going to continue to steal Ritalin, she shouldn't be trusted at all. If she "really needs it" she can certainly get her own prescription. It sounds like she really doesn't need it, but she just wants to get high. From what it sounds like, talking to a therapist about her life issues (not regarding drug use necessarily) may be most effective in helping her out.

Keep the pills locked up - don't let them be anywhere around her so she can slip up again. It's the best idea for you and your sister to do that.

 

[rolls]

I was planning on taking alprazolam, hydrocodone, or lorazepam, but after reading through just the first two pages of this thread, I am convinced not to. There seems to be so much to lose and not much to gain, mostly considering the addiction potential. I think I'll stick to my home domain of psychedelics, which to me sound and are easier to regulate in terms of frequency of use, as well as give a more interesting, heart-warming, and intellectual experience.

Maybe try them once, but for the overwhelming majority they will probably destroy a large chunk of your life. Unless you have ridiculous willpower and self control don't risk it.